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    Default "Corrected" ET? Come on guys!

    I have no problem with theoretical ET, combining your best splits from all of your runs, but corrected ET’s? That is just so much pie in the sky. Who came up with that formula? I mean, that’s like letting the drug companies do their own clinical trials on their drugs. The results will always be on the positive side. I would guess that who ever came up with the formulas to calculate this probably had an agenda, and that was to see how actual data could be construed to the extreme using engineering models, and allowing the +/- margin of error to carry forward in successive calculations in such a way that benefits the results the most. The same logic yields the claims made in “As Seen on TV” products…and we know that they all work as advertised.
    I see the same behavior when I watch the weigh-ins of fishing tournaments: “Yeah, I teh you whut…I lost three fish out thar’ today that were double-digut fish. If I woulda’ brought them in…” YEAH? Well guess what MF? You didn’t bring them in! So it doesn’t matter does it? And I can’t believe I’m sitting here wasting my precious time watching you talk about what shoulda’, coulda’ woulda’, didn’t happen! Same logic with corrected ET’s…don’t waste our valuable time.

    Is it not enough to just discuss and be happy with the actual capability of your car? Discussion of corrected ET in this context is perceived as sophomoric. You most probably chose to be here because this is agreeably the most truthful forum, with the broadest spectrum of usable information. You know what the other forums are like with all their arguing and boasting and “my friend's Dad’s car can…” Is that what we want our forum to sink to? It is a very slippery slope and all too easy to devolve into being just like over there. And discussion of corrected ET in the context that I am referring to is one of the first steps. Please, hold yourself to higher standard here so that this place continues to hold the respect of most.


    I guarantee you some smart-ass (and I am the biggest of these) is going to post up about their friend's Dad's car's corrected ET! I beat you to it BITCH!



    It would be funny though...so go ahead...
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    I guess I haven't seen people using corrected ET and claiming their car did that time. What I have used it for is to compare how my car is performing during different conditions on different days. It may not be 100% correct, but it is all we have. Only get great air a few times a year. Also, every dyno number is corrected as well.

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    As a STAR TREK fan... the corrected ET for my 09' is 0.01 at 756,000 mi a second. based on 4080 year times! And... DA paid no damn effect!
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    'corrected ET' ?



    edit: after seeing someone's sig with a 'corrected' ET.....
    oh wait.. I see what you mean... Agree OP..

    I guess I haven't seen people using corrected ET and claiming their car did that time. What I have used it for is to compare how my car is performing during different conditions on different days. It may not be 100% correct, but it is all we have. Only get great air a few times a year. Also, every dyno number is corrected as well.
    which is why
    A) anyone that seriously drag races knows that times are not directly comparable.
    B) anyone that's looked at a dyno sheet knows they're they're not directly comparable.

    If it's not 100% accurate then what's the point of this? " If the air temp had been just 5 degrees colder I would have done something like this!''

    Well, it wasn't, so I don't really care. This is an interwebz ego thing at worse, and at best a fallible attempt to compare times which probably have too many variables to reliability compute.

    Try telling someone up at a 1/4 all-day event or anything of the nature(you know, in the real world) that you car did a 12.67 but it 'corrects' to a 12.3 so actually it ran faster than it did.

    You'd probably be laughed out of the park.
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    Hey, my car can do the Kessel run in eight parsecs so top that. Ya I know that a parsec is a measure of distance, DON'T ASK QUESTIONS!!!
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    It helps to use the corrected et as a comparison tool only. I wouldnt post corrected times myself just because no one would believe i would gain almost a second correcting to sea level from my normal 6000 to 8000ft DAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyome View Post
    It helps to use the corrected et as a comparison tool only. I wouldnt post corrected times myself just because no one would believe i would gain almost a second correcting to sea level from my normal 6000 to 8000ft DAs.
    And there in lies the problem - sort of. I know people look at the ETs here in the Pacific Northwest and scratch their heads. How can a G8 GT run the high 12's with just a Cortex tune, CAI, and exhaust?!? Being at sea level (or darn close) and catching near before air of just the right humidity level and temperatures makes it optimal for 1/4 mile times. If you're in Colorado and over a mile high, the thinner air hurts runs.

    Look at your best at 14.2 even with headers. I'm almost a full second faster and that was with a CAI and tune only!!! Does that mean if I went to Colorado I would smoke you or if you came here to Seattle I'd smoke you? Well unless you completely botched your launch or your trying to drag race on low rolling resistance bald tires - no - you'd eat me alive. I know that. You know that. Any thinking person that actually understands cars knows that.
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    0-60 MPH: 5.01 Seconds | 1/4 Mile: 13.354 Seconds @ 105.85 MPH | 279kW / 572Nm DynoJet uncorrected

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    Let's meet up in the middle and find out. The high elevation really kills the launch...my 60ft times blow, with minimal wheel spin. Track events early in our season and late in the season are great for getting the personal best times, either that or go to a track at lower elevation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TooManyHobbies View Post
    I guess I haven't seen people using corrected ET and claiming their car did that time. What I have used it for is to compare how my car is performing during different conditions on different days. It may not be 100% correct, but it is all we have. Only get great air a few times a year. Also, every dyno number is corrected as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TooManyHobbies View Post
    I guess I haven't seen people using corrected ET and claiming their car did that time. What I have used it for is to compare how my car is performing during different conditions on different days. It may not be 100% correct, but it is all we have. Only get great air a few times a year. Also, every dyno number is corrected as well.
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