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The new bracket with new idler and a complete new tensioner on the left (Deal45R) , Previous fix on the right was a new bracket and new idler only (Deal 45).
You previously had to re-use your old A/C tensioner or buy a new A/C tensioner seperately for an extra $80+.
New [Deal 45R] A/C Bracket assembly is much greater value for money.
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That's a whole lot of part for a little amount of money. Makes me want to do this even though I haven't had any problems
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My engine has thrown the A/C belt on me once already, resulting in a tensioner replacement. I don't believe the replacement had an idler pulley, though, so it's probably just a matter of time until it's thrown again.
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Paul: If I go with new deal 45R, which a/c belt would one need with a PB UDP( Black) second design (10% a/c underdrive), Thanks John PS your website address
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Originally Posted by
jscruick
Paul: If I go with new deal 45R, which a/c belt would one need with a PB UDP( Black) second design (10% a/c underdrive), Thanks John PS your website address
Since the stock balancer is the same OD as the first design Powerbond (with no U/D on A/C) on the A/C portion of the pulley.....and stock balancer with new idler and tensioner takes 4PK1108.
I'd say 4PK1108 for first design Powerbond/SLP with new Holden Belt Fix arrangement.
4PK1108=GM belt 92244381
Belt to suit new bracket arrangement & 10% underdriven A/C pulley on balancer.
[Belt for Second Design U/D Pulley]
Use 4PK1065 = K040420.
Buy it there in USA in case you need to swap for something a little longer or shorter.
You won't find the Holden A/C Belt fix on my website and you don't need my website to order anything.
Just send a Paypal to my Paypal ID = pjsadler@iinet.net.au
Type in the Paypal Comments boxes what you want ie: DEAL 45R
C.P. website http://members.iinet.net.au/~pjsadler/
Last edited by Crazy Paul; 09-25-2011 at 04:38 PM.
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I had a question yesterday about the effectiveness of the A/C bracket mod in stopping the A/C belt from jumping off.
Just spoke with the Service Manager from a large Holden dealership here, he's fitted heaps of them (probably 15 or more) and has a 100% success rate. No cars have come back for A/C belt throwing after the mod was done.
He had the same problem with his own car and fitted the mod, problem gone.
He suggested that the only time you'll get a problem after the bracket mod is if you have excessive run-out in the crank harmonic balancer. Stands to reason if the main pulley is wobbling all over the place the belt won't like going straight around the other pulleys.
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Is there a specific batch of cars that has had this issue Paul? Seems mine is not having the problem and after 77,566 miles on the original belt it still looks to be in great shape.
Still it is not much money for a nice OEM part to ward off a problem in the middle of a Texas summer if the a/c belt goes flying off.
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Originally Posted by
texn884
Is there a specific batch of cars that has had this issue Paul?
All VE based V8 cars built before 19th November 2009 were put together with no idler pulley on the A.C belt.
There were also problems with runout on the stock main crank pulley (harmonic balancer) and that part has been superceded two or three times. We all know the Powerbond U/D pulley was also re-designed to drop the A/C belt speed and assist with belt retention. High rpm has been quoted as one main enemy of the A/C belt in this application.
Some cars will exhibit no problems yet others will......some driving styles may be better than others on belts.
So many variables come into the mix.
If you are sick and tired of throwing A/C belts then get the A/C belt fix.
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