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    Gxp suspension with eibach springs and BMR sway bars will address it perfectly.
    After that, coil overs and sway bars is your next option.

    I have no body roll anymore with BC racing coil overs, BMR sway bars, BMR trailing arms, BMR toe rods, and BMR cradle bushings
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebeast View Post
    Gxp suspension with eibach springs and BMR sway bars will address it perfectly.
    After that, coil overs and sway bars is your next option.

    I have no body roll anymore with BC racing coil overs, BMR sway bars, BMR trailing arms, BMR toe rods, and BMR cradle bushings
    How much downtime did you have with the installation? [out of car to back in total dt.]
    Last edited by 1MeanG8GT; 07-20-2013 at 08:35 AM. Reason: NINJA EDIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by toedrag View Post
    If you've noticed that the roll is getting worse, maybe one or more of your stock dampers has failed? Go to each corner and push down to bounce the car; if it bounces repeatedly, the damper has failed. If it hardly bounces and returns to the normal position, then it's probably fine.

    If you look at the Pedders Tech Talk section, they believe that a sway bar is one of the very last items a G8 should install, after bushings, coilovers, etc and should be used to change the distribution of side-to-side traction to dial in under/oversteer, not so much to control body roll. Body roll reduction happens to be a pleasant side effect of installing a sway bar (at a cost of reducing traction on the inside tire while moving it to the outside tire). They argue that the GT, and even the GXP, would benefit from just their spring & GSR damper upgrade combo. Now, I'm not a Pedders fanboi by any stretch, but their Tech Talk is something to think about. At the same time, maybe they say that to sell more stuff? But, their logic jives with general sway bar theory, so I don't think it's about selling more product. As an alternative to Pedders coilovers, you can get the BC adjustable coilovers for $1k, and while most people who get these drill the holes in the trunk for access to the adjusters, you could probably just set it and forget it without drilling the holes.

    Remember, there is a relationship between the springs & sway bar such that if the bar is too stiff compared to the springs, the bar will lift the inside wheel up in the air during hard cornering. On the flip side, some cars with very stiff springs do not have sway bars at all.

    In the end, if you want to keep the G8's soft ride, if you're not concerned about the side to side traction changes, if all you want is body roll reduction, and if you know your stock dampers are good, then the sway bar is the answer. Whiteline is another option for a solid bar, but BMR is still the least expensive.
    Thank You, that was what i was looking for. More than helpful +1 toedrag

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1MeanG8GT View Post
    Thank You, that was what i was looking for. More than helpful +1 toedrag
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    The Pedders Tech Talk is a good discussion with a lot of fine points in it. But it will overwhelm most. Take for instance the statement that sways should be the last item selected in a suspension tune. Well that would be true if you were starting from scratch and changing everything.

    But the op seems to be leaning towards changing springs although the reference to the other post on coil overs has no discussion of roll control. So, if he is going down that path then he should do that first then see if the under steer needs to be tuned out with a set of adjustable sway bars.
    Last edited by WhatNext; 07-21-2013 at 01:35 AM.

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    I did everything myself on my car. So no downtime really. Install took at least a half day at a time when I installed everything. So I was never really without the car.
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    10.87 at 133 1.59 60ft

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    My insight
    Swaybars, tighter bushings, strut bar.. For body role.. And next invest in brembos.. Or something.. Coilovers will help you dive into corners faster and what not but body roll and twist will remain...
    Other advice is learn the car first.. Get to feel it know its abilities and match it with your own.. Then fill in the gaps with upgrades

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    Ps 11-B here too Mosul 07-09

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