tvs 2300 or 1900 with livernois cam????

[2ltrgsr]

so after reading vegasnates thread i was wondering which route i should take.....

[SRG963]

Bigger is always better :)

[svtcobra]

I asked Andy at Livernois this same question. I am going to be installing a stage 1C cam package and he said that with all my mods and a 1900 I will easily reach and exceed my rwhp goals for my DD. So why spend the extra $$ for a 2300? Give Andy a call and he will be able to give you expert advise and information depending on what your goals are.
Bigger is not always better,it all depends what your goals are. Good planning and combination of right parts is the way to go to.

[Scalarrthu]

Also check with Garth at LEP, he's got a custom cam of his that was designed to be used with the maggie. A lot of TBSS and GTO guys are running it and have had nothing but success with it. It's always better to use something specifically made for your application, unless you already have the Livernois cam, which in that case disregard what I said :).

[JMorris]

Are they both carb legal or just the 1900, that would be a deal breaker for me here in CA.

[Mike P]

I asked Andy at Livernois this same question. I am going to be installing a stage 1C cam package and he said that with all my mods and a 1900 I will easily reach and exceed my rwhp goals for my DD. So why spend the extra $$ for a 2300? Give Andy a call and he will be able to give you expert advise and information depending on what your goals are.
Bigger is not always better,it all depends what your goals are. Good planning and combination of right parts is the way to go to.


I hear you..... After seeing Vegas Nate's 2300 I am so jealous! That car is bad@ss!

In the end I would really like a 1900 Magnacharger on top of my engine!



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[Zippy]

For a stock G8 that was going to keep the boost at 6psi I'd say just go with the 1900. Since you have a cam and are probably going to want 8psi or more why not go with the bigger? Both can take you to 600RWHP, the 2300 will just get you there without having to work hard to do it. I guess you'd have to ask yourself why not. Other than a small amount more money, why not do the bigger blower? It'll easily make the power of the 1900. It will give you more room for future mods. If you ever had to sell it down the road it will be worth more than the 1900 for sure. Pretty much anyone from a stock motored car to a stroker motored car can use the 2300. With so many 1900's out there the resale value will be less. It will allow for a larger front pulley giving you less chance of belt slip. Think of how many times people (possibly yourself) have bought mods and later thought that you should have went with the bigger better part in the first place. Seriously other than the slight cost difference there isn't any good reason to not do the 2300 over the 1900. When you bought the car if you could have gotten the LS3 for less than a thousand more would you have done it?

I've installed and tuned both. Unless you're doing a completely stock motor at low boost the 2300 should be your choice.

[Tempest2000]

I've looked at both dyno graphs... livernois cam stage 1 and a 1900
and the livernois cam stage 1 and 2300.

It looks like the 2300 makes about 50 more torque through the whole power band.
Although the 2300 tq falls off drastically near where the hp and tq curves meet where as the 1900 seems to fall off gradually...

I'd be interested to see what both do right off of idle power wise.

[BlownG8GT]

Have made 550 RWHP with a 1900 too......

[Tempest2000]

the one tuned at livernois was only running at 7psi fwiw... I assume running it at 8psi would bring up the hp just wasn't sure it would bring up the tq 50-70 rwtq

[p71]

1 psi should be worth about 20-25 ft/lbs

[Ktlplxm]

If that power is what your goal is, then you have no need for the bigger blower, plain and simple.

[Tempest2000]

that was what i was thinking as well p71

it goes against what a lot have said that the 2300 won't work as well at low boost or w/o a lot more displacement

whats the price difference?

[LEP]

Have made 550 RWHP with a 1900 too......

Bigger motor and better air.

[BlownG8GT]

Bigger motor and better air.

Same motor, better air :)

[G8GT594]

If I stick with my plan this winter ill have the 1900 installed. If you planning on making 500 or a little more the 1900 will get you there just fine.
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[LEP]

Same motor, better air :)

LOL! My bad. Way better air!!

[GTPprix]

If I stick with my plan this winter ill have the 1900 installed. If you planning on making 500 or a little more the 1900 will get you there just fine.
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I bet my car makes 600 to the tire without breaking a sweat when I get the fuel system in next week ;) The 1900 is perfect for those of you who aren't going big cube or big boost :D

[LEP]

Same motor, better air :)

Was this car a GT? Mods?

[BlownG8GT]

Was this car a GT? Mods?

GT, Headers, exhaust, boost a pump, and 10 psi

[Tempest2000]

what happened to running out of fuel with the 3" pulley even with a BAP? I thought the limit on a gt with those mods was pretty much 500hp

[G8GT594]

I bet my car makes 600 to the tire without breaking a sweat when I get the fuel system in next week ;) The 1900 is perfect for those of you who aren't going big cube or big boost :D

O next week! You still plan on going with your original idea for the fuel system?

[Zippy]

what happened to running out of fuel with the 3" pulley even with a BAP? I thought the limit on a gt with those mods was pretty much 500hp

Nates G8 would drop fuel pressure down to around 42psi by 6500rpm when it was making around 520RWHP. Once we installed the Magnavolt fuel pressure never dropped below 50psi to 6700rpm. On a returnless system that is a pretty normal drop. Below 50psi is a problem. I even tried a run dropping the AFR from 11.8 down to almost 11.0 on one run to see what the fuel pressure would do. It didn't drop any more than it did at 11.8.

[Tempest2000]

wonder if the difference is the 2300 vs 1900

or the people running the 3.0 pulley were running more boost than they thought