Jack points

[Cobra]

Where is the best position for a floor jack to put the G8 on jack stands? Please be specific. Thanks

[Crazy Paul]

I don't know the answer but I have a few undercar pics from VE Holdens and HSV's which might help somebody to explain it.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/harropbrakesVE031.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/chrisve20exhaust200081.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/chrisve20exhaust200051.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010273.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010270.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010262.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/R1010265.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/chrisve20exhaust200081-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/G82025inch.jpg

[Cobra]

thanks for the pics! The underside of this car is just as good looking as the top side. I thought this would have been an easy question. It would appear the best way to do it would be on the frame rails. Any other suggestions would be welcomed.

[Chewy]

I would put them right where you see theirs!

Should work!

[Crazy Paul]

I would put them right where you see theirs! Should work!

Naaah that's not the issue.
You have to lift from one position with the floorjack......while you position the jackstands under the positions shown.
(where those "crinkle pads" are).

The OP needs to know where to put the floorjack.

[Chewy]

I'd probably lift from under the front and rear "A" arms and then set my stands.

That's just me...

[00 Trans Ram]

I wouldn't lift by supension if I were you. It is only attached to the chassis via bolts. If a bolt breaks, you're a goner.

Jack it by a framerail. Use the points in the above pics for reference. If you're jacking the front left, use the front left point from the pics above, etc.

FYI - with repeated jackings on my Trans Am, I've ruined the "factory" jack points on that little metal lip they tell you to use. Now, when I swap my race tires on and off, i use the frame.

[G8GTlawride]

Where is the best position for a floor jack to put the G8 on jack stands? Please be specific. Thanks

Find the points on the frame where there is overlap of frame material IMO. It is the strongest. I placed the jack stands near where the "ripples" are. But I also used a 2x4 on the jack stand to spread the load. I had no issues with this arrangement. I used it to install the ARH header system. Just FYI, took the car to the dealer for the TCM update and THEY put their lift pads on the wide flat part of the frame and bent it slightly. Beware.

[Cobra]

I had planned on using a 2x6 to help dispers the load. I definately need how to do this the right way. I plan on changing over my after market wheels with my stock wheel/tire combo for the winter. The last thing I want to do is haul tires back and forth to a tire dealership to have them do it. Thanks for the replies so far and again any other suggestions are welcom.

G8Gtlawride...what exactly was it the dealer bent? Was it the frame rail?

[Crazy Paul]

Cobra,

I'll go and ask the guy who has that hoist with the yellow arms in the pics above. Check back here for your answer when you next wake up.

Cheers
Paul

[Crazy Paul]

Get the car on a level cement surface.

For the front use a thick strong piece of flat timber,
as large as possible to fit where the dotted green rectangle is.
But not so large that it's contacting only the crossmember welds.
Spread the load evenly from the end of the jack, thru the timber,
across the dotted area on the crossmember.


Jack under Front Crossmember.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Front-timber-jacking-suppor.jpg


For the rear use something strong and cupped
between the end of the jack and the diff housing.
Spread the load evenly from the end of the jack, thru the cup,
and across as much area under the diff housing as you can.
The more surface area in contact the better.


Jack under Diff Housing.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Rear-timber-jacking.jpg

[Cobra]

That is beautiful! Thanks

[wreckwriter]

You're going to need a seriously low floor jack just to get under the front, not to mention putting a 2x4 between the jack and the car. Ain't gonna happen unless you run the front wheels up on a board or something first.

[G8GTlawride]

I had planned on using a 2x6 to help dispers the load. I definately need how to do this the right way. I plan on changing over my after market wheels with my stock wheel/tire combo for the winter. The last thing I want to do is haul tires back and forth to a tire dealership to have them do it. Thanks for the replies so far and again any other suggestions are welcom.

G8Gtlawride...what exactly was it the dealer bent? Was it the frame rail?

Look at the second posted pic, taken from the front, that shows the headers, oil and tranny pans. It also shows the four "feet" of the lift. It is the area that the front lift pads are in the pic but more in the center of that round frame area. Not bad mind you just irritating. Use the 2x4 to spread the weight and locate them under an overlap of frame material or near a frame edge and you should be fine.

[00 Trans Ram]

You're going to need a seriously low floor jack just to get under the front, not to mention putting a 2x4 between the jack and the car. Ain't gonna happen unless you run the front wheels up on a board or something first.

My Harbor Frieght jack fit pretty well. Car was just sitting level.

[wreckwriter]

My Harbor Frieght jack fit pretty well. Car was just sitting level.

My Craftsman doesn't :((

[00 Trans Ram]

Try going in from the side, right in front of the tire. As long as the 2x4 is parallel to the jack point, it doesn't matter that the jack is off to the side (ensure the pad on the jack is right under the board, too).

[SRG963]

http://picsorban.com/upload/p1010270.jpg

Wonderful pictures. Is that the top bracket on the transmission mount? Looks like it would be called bottom mount, so probably not right?

I need to know what the left hand side of this bracket looks like so I can do the "fix" so this top plate shuts the hell up.

Thanks for the help HSV-GTS-300

[Crazy Paul]

Wonderful pictures. Is that the top bracket on the transmission mount? Looks like it would be called bottom mount, so probably not right?
I need to know what the left hand side of this bracket looks like so I can do the "fix" so this top plate shuts the hell up.
Thanks for the help HSV-GTS-300

Yes I know Y'all chasing pics of the tranny mounts, I read the thread about the vibration. Sorry I don't have any pics other than that one posted above.
I contacted the guy on the Aussie forum who talked of mount pics but got no reply.
I'm going to start carrying my digital camera in the car everywhere I go.....so the next time I see a car with an A6 tranny up on a hoist I'll be under there like a rat.
Cheers
Paul.

[wreckwriter]

A6? Is that the Oz name for 6L80?

[SRG963]

YI'm going to start carrying my digital camera in the car everywhere I go.....so the next time I see a car with an A6 tranny up on a hoist I'll be under there like a rat.
Cheers
Paul.


Thank you for your help and time. I believe this noise is reported to be in both the A6 and the M6.

Again, thanks for your help :theman:

[Crazy Paul]

A6? Is that the Oz name for 6L80?

No, but we get manual trans in these cars too......shorthand = M6, so the auto just gets called A6.

[wreckwriter]

No, but we get manual trans in these cars too......shorthand = M6, so the auto just gets called A6.

Gotcha, thanks!

[wreckwriter]

For the rear use something strong and cupped
between the end of the jack and the diff housing.
Spread the load evenly from the end of the jack, thru the cup,
and across as much area under the diff housing as you can.
The more surface area in contact the better.


Jack under Diff Housing.

http://picsorban.com/upload/ve-rear-lift.jpg

Is this still believed to be the best method? Theoretically my BMR trailing arms will be here today or tomorrow; I have Wed off so will need to be putting the rear of the car on jack stands for the install.

I don't have anything "strong and cupped" except my floor jack which should meet those criteria. Unless someone has a better idea I plan to try it like this.

[GRRRR8]

You should still be able to use a jackstand on that point.

[wreckwriter]

Yea, that's my plan. Floor jack under the diff, then jack stands where the blue arrows are in the pic.

[GRRRR8]

Since its up in the air anyway, change to DRs, 3.27s and a new driveshaft. Only to save jacking it up again of course! lol

[wreckwriter]

Looks like this point was moot as the BMR parts really haven't shipped yet.

[GRRRR8]

Looks like this point was moot as the BMR parts really haven't shipped yet.

I know where to go read now!

[wreckwriter]

I know where to go read now!

You have your choice of several places.

[conipc]

I got a shipped notice that my trailing arms WERE shipped, arriving Wed.
As to jacking, I have been able to both jack and jackstand at the same designated jack spots, one in front of the other.

[wreckwriter]

I got a shipped notice that my trailing arms WERE shipped, arriving Wed.
As to jacking, I have been able to both jack and jackstand at the same designated jack spots, one in front of the other.

They're shipping today I'm told.

[silver6.0L]

So to jack the rear end up are people using the stock floor jack cup and is their a certain size needed. If not is there something you can buy that will not damaged the housing.

[G8GTlawride]

So to jack the rear end up are people using the stock floor jack cup and is their a certain size needed. If not is there something you can buy that will not damaged the housing.

I used a piece of 2x4 on the jack to spread the load as much as possible given the jack point on the diff. Just go slow and put the car on stands once you get it to the height you want.

[wreckwriter]

I used a piece of 2x4 on the jack to spread the load as much as possible given the jack point on the diff. Just go slow and put the car on stands once you get it to the height you want.

You just put a chunk of 2x4 between jack cup and diff?

[G8GTlawride]

Yes, and once I got it to the height I wanted then put the jacks under it. Just made sure the 2x4 was short enough not to hit anything as I raised the car. Use a good piece of wood and not one all dried out that will split easy.

[SRG963]

You just put a chunk of 2x4 between jack cup and diff?

You'll want to use #2 Southern Yellow Pine LOL

[-Ray-]

You'll want to use #2 Southern Yellow Pine LOL

LOL
I was thinking that same thing this morning. I just didn't post it. Soft wood, that yellow pine.

[G8GTlawride]

I actually had a length of "Real" 2x4 salvaged from a house that was built in 1967. It actually measured 2"x4" and not the 1 1/2" x 3 1/2". When I cut it up it still had sap in it. Could hardly cut it (sorry for being off topic). I would expect that PT would work as well for the jack though.

[Kermit]

Glad I ran across this post. I too was wondering what would be the best way to jack up the car. Thanks to all of you for your info. I'll feel more confident now when it's time to play under her.

[wreckwriter]

I have some concerns actually. The things shown as jack points earlier are actually the x-members of the suspension....

[silver6.0L]

Wouldn't a prothane jack pad work better to save the diff. housing? Also isn't there another place to lift the rear by safely?

[american_kestrel]

I don't know the answer but I have a few undercar pics from VE Holdens and HSV's which might help somebody to explain it.

There's one really big pic here.

http://picsorban.com/upload/harropbrakesve031.jpg

http://picsorban.com/upload/p1010262.jpg

http://picsorban.com/upload/p1010265.jpg

http://picsorban.com/upload/p1010270.jpg


Huge Pic

http://picsorban.com/upload/p1010273.jpg

http://picsorban.com/upload/vessvextractandcatsresized.jpg

http://picsorban.com/upload/vessvfrontexhresized.jpg
HSV-GTS-300: I'm a new proud owner of Pontiac G8 GT. I saw your posts about jack stand and floor jack points on the Holden/Pontiac. I logged in, but the picture you mentioned is gone. Can you tell me where to find the picture of jack points? HSV-GTS-300 thanks for info.

[Crazy Paul]

Sorry man the old pic host died. I've re-hosted those pics below.
edit-Another host just died. Rehosted again.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/R1010265.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010262.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010270.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010273.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/VESSVextractandcatsresized.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/VESSVfrontexhresized.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/chrisve20exhaust200051.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/chrisve20exhaust200081.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/harropbrakesVE031.jpg

[G8GT594]

pics are gone agian...

Would come in hand right about now.

So everyone is saying its okay to use the rear diff to jack on? Hm..

[Crazy Paul]

Try again now.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010266.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010265.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010262-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010273-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010272.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010270-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/P1010269.jpg

VE Series 2 with factory oil pan protector.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Sump-prot-139.jpg

[GotMyG8V8]

Man i need to find a lift i can rent lol.

[sanderGR]

I got my winter wheels and was glad to find this thread. I used some of the points indicated to place my garage floor jack to lift the car one wheel at the time. Still, I didn't have a good feeling that I placed the jack correctly. Especially, hearing some noise in the front....

Do the GM techs have a service manual that would indicate where to place the jack?

BTW. I have one the low profile model, medium "length" (some of the points are at its limit), with a large rubberized disk.

[parish8]

in the rear i put the jack under the rear diff. in the front i just center it under that heavy piece of black metal. frame? subframe? whatever you call it. this car is easy to get up on stands.

[sanderGR]

I don't think I could reach the rear diff.

In the front I ended up using a similar spot as HSV-GTS-300 shows in his last pic. Due to the length of my jack (a medium size model) I positioned slightly more towards the outside. Is any position in this area (welded triangle)safe? It looks like that HSV-GTS-300 positioned actually on the rippled steel piece. Is this good, bad, indifferent?
Or am I supposed to jack on the rippled piece? There are four on the car.
I did hear some noises I didn't like in the front...

In the rear I tried both: frame and and the rear suspension as the picture with the red lift suggests.

[Crazy Paul]

Lifting & Jacking Points , INSTRUCTIONS from 2009 G8 Service Manual.
Right Click, Save Target As.
160kB pdf doc
http://www.hsv-gts.ls2.com/Lifting%20and%20Jacking.pdf



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/lift.jpg

[Crazy Paul]

Centre the jack at position marked X , use wood to spread the load across the available area.
Put jackstands at positions marked by arrows, the non-slip "crinkle pads" are there for lifting purposes.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Aero-139-1000front.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Aero-138-1000rear.jpg

[darkan]

HSV-GTS-300, you are a saint. Thanks for this!

[IRISH]

On the front jack stand location, I was planning on using a 2X4 between the stand and frame since the stands lip up on the corners and this might damage the the metal of the frame (it left dents on my GTO)
What are others thoughts, is this safe?

[jcmGT]

drop a hockey puck on top of the jackstand to protect from lip dents. Use one on the jack itself to keep from it scratching

[IRISH]

That sounds good.

[Dictatorsaurus]

My jackstands similar to the ones in the link below have pointy ends that stick up. I would think such small contact point would damage the car.

Where would be the safest place to put them? A picture would help be appreciated!

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_2-ton-jack-stands-torin_10014620-p?searchTerm=jack+stands

Also, are 2-ton jacks sufficient to hold the weight on the g8?

I'm guessing they should be since if using 4 jacks, the 4000lb weight of the car would be distrubuted over the 4 stands.

[WoodburyMan]

Centre the jack at position marked X , use wood to spread the load across the available area.
Put jackstands at positions marked by arrows, the non-slip "crinkle pads" are there for lifting purposes.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Aero-139-1000front.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Aero-138-1000rear.jpg

This is exactly what I was looking for. THANK YOU! Painting my calipers, only did one wheel the other day since I couldn't find a good spot for the stands and just used the jack and some timber as backup.