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zosoboogie
07-03-2009, 04:58 PM
Does anyone have Alcohol injection in their G8? Previous cars, grocery getter's?

R.Penguin
07-03-2009, 06:48 PM
Does anyone have Alcohol injection in their G8? Previous cars, grocery getter's?
I tried it once. Damn near killed me. You get drunk really fast tho'.:p

GeorgeInNePa
07-03-2009, 07:26 PM
I tried it once. Damn near killed me. You get drunk really fast tho'.:p

You too?


;)

MANOFSTEEL69
07-03-2009, 07:38 PM
Not good to mix alcohol and cars. Watched my Dad catch himself on fire when I was a kid when he raced Super Modified. Not good to know you're on fire till you feel the burn :(

13 QTR
07-03-2009, 07:57 PM
I had it on my srt-4......running 29 psi. It kept me from having to run race gas. Set to come on at 17+ psi.
Not really worth it in a N/A car....unless your running some serious high compression ratio's.

Now...I would love to try a custom setup with nitrous....where the methanol was the substitute fuel for the car when spraying.

BSmith
07-04-2009, 06:17 AM
I have worked with a couple setups before. We used the stock wiper washer bottle and washer fluid. Worked fine.

It's one of those things I didn't care for though because of the need to keep an eye on. The tuning on the LT1s was a lot more primitive though.

The other setup that I worked with was a shop car that pinging didn't matter on in the event of the reservoir running out.

Ktlplxm
07-04-2009, 06:44 AM
Have had it on 2 other cars and installed it onb plenty of others. Its a great way to control detonation and to get away with not having an intercooler. In the GOOD kits (not the SNOW or some of the even less expensive ones) you have no worries at all. It has its own high end pump, switches, arming lights, low level lights, flow ramps, and Boost activated controls. 100% safe if done correctly. If someone is concerned with fire, use a 50/50 mixture, change the ramp and you are good. If you trust all of your connections to be leak free, use 100% and let it flow.

zosoboogie
07-04-2009, 12:15 PM
Have had it on 2 other cars and installed it onb plenty of others. Its a great way to control detonation and to get away with not having an intercooler. In the GOOD kits (not the SNOW or some of the even less expensive ones) you have no worries at all. It has its own high end pump, switches, arming lights, low level lights, flow ramps, and Boost activated controls. 100% safe if done correctly. If someone is concerned with fire, use a 50/50 mixture, change the ramp and you are good. If you trust all of your connections to be leak free, use 100% and let it flow.

So here it is the situation not sure if I want to do it still, GM Performance Magazine wants a Supercharged G8 and they will provide the Methanol/ Alcohol injection from Snow Performance. They provide the kit for free and I pay for the install then they write an article on my car and the gains. The problem is I am not familiar with it and I would not know what to do it it goes wrong! I think the mix is 50/50 but I do track days now and I am not sure if its something good or bad. Is there a better brand than SNOW??
HELP!

wreckwriter
07-04-2009, 12:25 PM
Damn, wish they offered me that deal!

13 QTR
07-04-2009, 01:31 PM
So here it is the situation not sure if I want to do it still, GM Performance Magazine wants a Supercharged G8 and they will provide the Methanol/ Alcohol injection from Snow Performance. They provide the kit for free and I pay for the install then they write an article on my car and the gains. The problem is I am not familiar with it and I would not know what to do it it goes wrong! I think the mix is 50/50 but I do track days now and I am not sure if its something good or bad. Is there a better brand than SNOW??
HELP!

Snow is a pretty good kit. There's also devils-own and coolinmist(what I had). I ran 100% straight methanal,more for a fuel supplement rather than cooling. It allows for lots more timing and boost. I wouldn't see you,doing any damage if the kit failed...unless you are using it for fuel.
I was tuned for it on the high side...one track day,my pump failed. I hit about a 14.7afr,on a car that shouldn't be over 12.4 on methanol. I got 'er shut down...no damage. You wouldn't think a 4 cylinder running 860cc injectors would need a dual nozzle (1250cc) setup,too keep from going lean....but I did.

A plus also...is when you let out of it and it backfires..you get this enormous fire ball out the pipes.. With my cutout...it would backfire and roll out a big blue fireball out that nearly reached the drivers door handles. Plus what came out the rear tips.....you could light up the road behind you....plus NO tailgaters....

wreckwriter
07-04-2009, 01:37 PM
Be sure you get a 5 gallon tank with a low level warning, you don't want to run out of juice.

13 QTR
07-04-2009, 01:43 PM
Be sure you get a 5 gallon tank with a low level warning, you don't want to run out of juice.

Those are nice. I only had the 2 quart tank under the hood. It would last for about 15 passes at the track...not all that bad. I would buy it by the 5 gallon jug....lasted almost a whole year. I did street race alot...
I still got about 2 gallons left....I sometimes will throw a pint in the G8 with a full tank....just trying to use it up.

wreckwriter
07-04-2009, 01:45 PM
Gotta remember though, unlike most of us, Arthur does road racing too. He could potentially use a LOT of juice in a fairly short time.

13 QTR
07-04-2009, 01:46 PM
Hay wreck... There's a guy on our local board selling a brand new coolinmist varicool progressive set up. It's a $1000 kit...for $500. If your interested.

It's at alabamaracingscene.net in the for sale section.

R.Penguin
07-04-2009, 02:03 PM
You too?


;)
"hic"

Beats throwing up in the car.....barely!:p

zosoboogie
07-04-2009, 03:33 PM
Snow is a pretty good kit. There's also devils-own and coolinmist(what I had). I ran 100% straight methanal,more for a fuel supplement rather than cooling. It allows for lots more timing and boost. I wouldn't see you,doing any damage if the kit failed...unless you are using it for fuel.
I was tuned for it on the high side...one track day,my pump failed. I hit about a 14.7afr,on a car that shouldn't be over 12.4 on methanol. I got 'er shut down...no damage. You wouldn't think a 4 cylinder running 860cc injectors would need a dual nozzle (1250cc) setup,too keep from going lean....but I did.

A plus also...is when you let out of it and it backfires..you get this enormous fire ball out the pipes.. With my cutout...it would backfire and roll out a big blue fireball out that nearly reached the drivers door handles. Plus what came out the rear tips.....you could light up the road behind you....plus NO tailgaters....

Did the back fire ever melt any plastic?

zosoboogie
07-04-2009, 03:35 PM
thanks for the info 13 QTR

13 QTR
07-04-2009, 04:21 PM
Did the back fire ever melt any plastic?

No...it was to fast. One good thing about the methanol....it's the best intake/valve cleaner...you won't have any carbon build up.

The srt was designed to backfire. It actually will fire on the exhaust stroke,and it was said that it fired the injectors on the exhaust stroke to?
I never lifted while shifting..so when it hit the limiter,even thou the injectors shut off,the methanol was still spraying. So the exhaust pipes would get unburned fuel.....so that equalled a big fireball.:poof:

Ktlplxm
07-05-2009, 07:23 AM
So here it is the situation not sure if I want to do it still, GM Performance Magazine wants a Supercharged G8 and they will provide the Methanol/ Alcohol injection from Snow Performance. They provide the kit for free and I pay for the install then they write an article on my car and the gains. The problem is I am not familiar with it and I would not know what to do it it goes wrong! I think the mix is 50/50 but I do track days now and I am not sure if its something good or bad. Is there a better brand than SNOW??
HELP!

The only one I've used and been 100% satisfied in all of the parts and quality is the Alkycontrol kit. I've seen a few of the Devils kits and they weren't too bad, but as far as a Snow....couldn't give it to me; as a matter of fact someone did give me one once with a used turbo set-up from a Civic and it was thrown in the trash

zosoboogie
07-05-2009, 12:48 PM
The only one I've used and been 100% satisfied in all of the parts and quality is the Alkycontrol kit. I've seen a few of the Devils kits and they weren't too bad, but as far as a Snow....couldn't give it to me; as a matter of fact someone did give me one once with a used turbo set-up from a Civic and it was thrown in the trash

So Alkycontrol kit are the best then!!

Ktlplxm
07-06-2009, 06:43 AM
In my opinion, yes. All of the features that most of us deem necessary are found in the Alkycontrol kits standard