Pypes Violator vs. Magnaflow Axleback

[LastMohican]

An axleback will be my first mod.

I like the established reputation of the Magnaflow but, based on posted sound samples, I don't think it will add enough "throat" to the car.

Leaning towards the Pypes "Violator" package.

Any input from you cats that have either is appreciated!

[GRRRR8]

I really like the Violators. On a stock G8 they have a deep muscle car sound. On mine thats highly modded they are loud, but little to no drone at 60 like the Flo's or MFs.

[blackbirdws6]

+1 on the Pypes. Everyone that has heard my car likes how it sounds. Enough rumble that you know something is there at idle and floor it and they sound beautiful.

[Snakey]

^^^ What he said!

[wreckwriter]

Pypes tips are nicer by a long shot.

[Mike P]

An axleback will be my first mod.

I like the established reputation of the Magnaflow but, based on posted sound samples, I don't think it will add enough "throat" to the car.

Leaning towards the Pypes "Violator" package.

Any input from you cats that have either is appreciated!


I would pass on the axlebacks, and just add some American Racing Long Tube Headers, and keep the stock axle back. It might be what you are looking for with no drone.....?

Then you'd add HP, TQ, & sound and not just sound.... :twocents:


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[Devilish34]

I would pass on the axlebacks, and just add some American Racing Long Tube Headers, and keep the stock axle back. It might be what you are looking for with no drone.....?

Then you'd add HP, TQ, & sound and not just sound.... :twocents:


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I like the sound of that :)

[cmgfireman]

Bought the Pypes about 6 weeks ago. I love the look, the price and the sound. The install was literally 15 minutes.

[Kermit]

I'm happy with my pypes. At time's I think they MAY be a bit loud but then when I see people looking back to see what that sweet sound is, I like them.

[LastMohican]

Bought the Pypes about 6 weeks ago. I love the look, the price and the sound. The install was literally 15 minutes.

I order the Pypes Axle Back today will install myself.

Did you need an air hammer?

[blackbirdws6]

I order the Pypes Axle Back today will install myself.

Did you need an air hammer?

No air hammer needed. You can do this with a basic socket set but it goes quicker if you have air ratchets.

[edfiero]

I would pass on the axlebacks, and just add some American Racing Long Tube Headers, and keep the stock axle back. It might be what you are looking for with no drone.....?

Then you'd add HP, TQ, & sound and not just sound.... :twocents:


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Anyone have a sound clip of how the headers sound with the stock exhaust?

[bubblyjock]

Anyone have a sound clip of how the headers sound with the stock exhaust?

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=7839

[IcePickFreak]

No air hammer needed. You can do this with a basic socket set but it goes quicker if you have air ratchets.
Definitely, minimal tools are needed. It took me about 20 minutes to put on the magnaflow axleback with hand tools and I didn't bother to jack the car up. Theres plenty of room to get to what you need to get to.

[Livetosurf]

I ordered my Pypes/W Violator's yesterday. Fathers Day gift from my wife. I will post a video once I install them. I am completely stock.

[LastMohican]

I ordered my Pypes/W Violator's yesterday. Fathers Day gift from my wife. I will post a video once I install them. I am completely stock.

They are on backorder until the frickin' 11th of July!

[Livetosurf]

Who has them on back order? I ordered from LMP.

[LastMohican]

Who has them on back order? I ordered from LMP.

I ordered from JEGS last week. Called yesterday to confirm a ship date and was told me they were on backorder from Pypes; to ship the 11th of July.

I then called LMP. If they had sytems in inventory and could ship immediately, I was going to cancel the JEGS order. The price is identical.

LMP said they had no inventory units and would have to call to Pypes to determine availability.

I then called Pypes to ask if they knew of any other parts house with inventory and they said no; the 11th of July was the best I could do.

I kept the order with JEGS.

[Livetosurf]

Thanks man.

[Livetosurf]

Just spoke to LMP and they said my Pypes will drop-ship from Pypes today.:woohoo:

[LastMohican]

Just spoke to LMP and they said my Pypes will drop-ship from Pypes today.:woohoo:

Cancelled my oredr with JEGS and ordered for LMP. Mine ships tomorrow! :woohoo:

[Livetosurf]

Good deal!

[Camss57]

Please post how they fit and sound guys. I have been thinking about getting this system myself.

[LastMohican]

Please post how they fit and sound guys. I have been thinking about getting this system myself.

My neighbor has a hydraulic lift in his garage so we will be able to get the car up in the air. I'll take some pics.

[Livetosurf]

Hey guys
Just installed the Pypes axle-back tonight and here are some of my thoughts.
I am not a mechanic nor have I ever claimed to be one. I am however mechanically inclined. The install took about 1 hour and the instructions were not sufficient. For those of you who did this install in 15min. You Rock!!
The bracket that holds the tips up needs to be removed from the car. I was not able to just slide the muffler towards the front of the car like the instructions said. So once I realized I had to take off this bracket, the removal was a breeze. But when I went to install the new muffler the hangers were bent and it took quite a bit of muscle to straighten them out enough where the muffler wouldn't hit the side of the diffuser.
It looks like I will have to do some adjusting because the tips are not in the same position as one another. This is a PITA in my opinion. For a do-it-yourselfer like myself, I was hoping I could just put them on and I wouldn't have to adjust anything.
The sound is really nice and deep. Charlie was right on the money with this set up if you ask me. I have posted two videos for sound purposes.
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[GRRRR8]

Glad you like them. By far the best sounding muffler on a stock G8 exhaust.

[Jag]

I ordered mine on Sunday and should be here on Monday. Wish they would have got here in time for a weekend install but oh well. Can't wait to hear them, very excited!!

[johnh]

The bracket that holds the tips up needs to be removed from the car. I was not able to just slide the muffler towards the front of the car like the instructions said.

No they don't. I have changed the mufflers a couple times on the driveway without a lift and just undoing the flange bolts. The stock muffs are big heavy suckers but you can get them out with a little manuvering.

I like my Pypes too, but there a bit too much noise cruising on the highway 70-80mph especially with AFM.

[GRRRR8]

I just put another set of PYPES on today. :)

[Punisher]

I just put another set of PYPES on today. :)

So thats what I heard earlier today....I was like....it has to be Charlie's G8

[BORN2FLY]

I just finished installing my Pypes axle-backs on my '08 GT and man, it sounds 3x better!:woohoo:

But i may be offering it forsale after just owning it for 1 week today.:(

[GRRRR8]

So thats what I heard earlier today....I was like....it has to be Charlie's G8

No, it was WAY quieter then mine.

[LastMohican]

Mine arrive on July 1st. I'll have to carve out a time to use my neighbor's lift. Could take a couple of weeks.

[Punisher]

No, it was WAY quieter then mine.

Yea I do remember when you said you didnt want that loud of a sound when we were at Otto's

[liquidred1]

i bought the pypes violators based on charlies opinion of them. They were very well priced and sound excellent. Oh yeah, they're really shiny too:)

Install was a breeze, only need a socket set to remove the old garbage and put on the pypes. No lift needed and i was done in 20min maximum.

I think they sound great, and i have them with the arh 1 7/8 system. I really have no drone over 50+. A+++ in my book.

[GeoffA]

Mine finally installed...

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[LastMohican]

Yes! Can't wait!

[blackoutgt]

sounds nice...man I cant wait to make mine sound liike a V8 like it should

[grandmacpubah]

i'd be curious to hear these if anyone has them with headers.

[GeoffA]

i'd be curious to hear these if anyone has them with headers.

I'll post that answer on the 12th!

[Punisher]

I'll post that answer on the 12th!

looking forward to it^^^^

[LastMohican]

Got my "Violators" yesterday. Now just have to coordinate the installation with my neighbor; I'm guessing a week or two.

[bwooten492]

Any idea how these would sound with a universal X in place of the stock third muffler? I really need to get rid of the SLP's.

[GeoffA]

Got my "Violators" yesterday. Now just have to coordinate the installation with my neighbor; I'm guessing a week or two.

What? grab yourself a 15mm (i think) socket and crawl under. I didn't even jack mine up and got her done.

[Hessian]

Yeah axle backs have to be the easiest thing to install. 15mm socket wrench and thats it.

[LastMohican]

What? grab yourself a 15mm (i think) socket and crawl under. I didn't even jack mine up and got her done.


I hear you boys but ol' man here had back surgery about 15 months ago!

And my neighbor has an air hammer and I really like to use that as well.

[LastMohican]

They are on!

Yes In-Deedy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWyT7SHmDaU

[GRRRR8]

Congrats! :woohoo:

[JimmyJazz]

Anyboby who uses Springsteen is allright in my book!

[GeoffA]

"You young whipper snappers" :rofl:

So did you crawl under...

[LastMohican]

Man alive, but they are some "droney" suckers!

[LastMohican]

"You young whipper snappers" :rofl:

So did you crawl under...

Hell yes.

Against my better judgment!

[GeoffA]

Man alive, but they are some "droney" suckers!

You'll get use to it, I only drove around maybe 150 miles with them on now, and I think it's too quiet still. That's changing now...

You can tell when it kicks down to 4 banger mode, it sounds like I got a subwoofer in the trunk.

[bwooten492]

Any idea how these would sound with a universal X in place of the stock third muffler? I really need to get rid of the SLP's.

anyone?

[GeoffA]

I'll post that answer on the 12th!


What He said ^
:secret:

[johnh]

You can tell when it kicks down to 4 banger mode,

My kids call it the "helicopter".

Still waiting to see if different X-pipe/header reduces it.

[GRRRR8]

My kids call it the "helicopter".

Still waiting to see if different X-pipe/header reduces it.

It gets worse with headers/X. These muffs were designed for stock exhaust.

[superspud]

Is it impossible to get the pypes axlebacks video on some ones car that has LT headers and a xpipe????

I know I've heard Charlies, but his has a lot more into it than just that. It can be louder just not sound like a nascar stock car.

[blackbirdws6]

Is it impossible to get the pypes axlebacks video on some ones car that has LT headers and a xpipe????

I know I've heard Charlies, but his has a lot more into it than just that. It can be louder just not sound like a nascar stock car.

I still have mine. I could throw them on when I am heading to the track and try and get a clip.

[Executor999]

+1. I'm interested in hearing this combo too.



Is it impossible to get the pypes axlebacks video on some ones car that has LT headers and a xpipe????

I know I've heard Charlies, but his has a lot more into it than just that. It can be louder just not sound like a nascar stock car.

[GeoffA]

I'll try posting one later tonight...

[GeoffA]

OK here ya'll go... the befores


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With ARH 1 7/8's catted system, New Era Tuned and Dynoed, Roto Fab Intake, and a cold start.

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[Executor999]

Thanks for posting. Man, those Pypes sound extra mean with AR Headers! I'll be getting AR Headers installed in Sept. and will drive with the stock muffs for awhile, then maybe consider the Pypes Violators. I want 'some' loudness but I don't want to wake up the neighborhood at 5am when I leave the house. :)

[bwooten492]

[QUOTE=GeoffA;118990]OK here ya'll go... the befores




With ARH 1 7/8's catted system, New Era Tuned and Dynoed, Roto Fab Intake, and a cold start.

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Wow, dude that sounds badass! I think I need to go with that combo you have there.

[majesticix]

holy hell. With the ARH system the difference is night and day. I'd be curious to know how much quieter it is with the ARH and stock mufflers.

[Chewy]

Did you have your boy revving it? That's pretty cool!

Sounds good!

[GeoffA]

holy hell. With the ARH system the difference is night and day. I'd be curious to know how much quieter it is with the ARH and stock mufflers.

It's not loud enough :)

[superspud]

holy hell. With the ARH system the difference is night and day. I'd be curious to know how much quieter it is with the ARH and stock mufflers.

a little bit quieter than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9YwtnUCiJA&feature=related

after hearing both of these axle back systems with headers I'm almost leaning towards the slightly quieter magnaflows but them being $100's more still has me finding excuses for why pypes with headers really aren't "that" loud... :wacko:

could we trouble you one more time to make an in car driving sound vid Geoff?

[majesticix]

Pypes Violaters win lol. The sound is wonderful.

[GeoffA]

could we trouble you one more time to make an in car driving sound vid Geoff?

Of course, any excuse to drive is a good one...

[Punisher]

Sounds deadly!

[nathanf2009]

Glad you like them. By far the best sounding muffler on a stock G8 exhaust.

IMO...for axelback the SLP Loudmouth sounds the best and the tips have the best fit and finish.

[Gonewild]

I would like to hear some powerflows or loudmouth axlebacks with stock exhaust

[GRRRR8]

I havent had any issues with PYPES tips. If you tweak the hangers the mufflers sit correctly. I havent put one system of any brand on that fit perfect just slapping it on. ALL required a little tweaking to be within a 1/8 or less per side.