APS Twin Turbo

[G8GT721]

So INTENSE Racing (http://www.intense-racing.com/) was offering a promotion for an APS TT kit for $100 on the other board Promotion Thread (http://www.g8board.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12293) and guess who the lucky winner is :):woohoo::woohoo:. I purchased two tickets on March 8th, but last night(4/2) i was feeling lucky so i purchased a third which turned ot to be the one. I have not yet decided if i will drive to OH for the install or find a local shop to do the installtion. I am also contemplating adding a cam, but keeping stock boost. This is my DD but doesn't have to be, and i really dont want to screw with the fuel system

I will keep you posted on what i do and such

[Ktlplxm]

Congratualtions!! Now if we can get a giveaway on here for a Custom HOUSE OF BOOST twin turbo kit, and find a way to rig it so only grumpy, red g8 owners, from sc can win it....

[G8GT721]

i think the odds would be in your favor....slightly

[Greg@PacePerformance]

Nice! I seen on the other board that people were waiting for you to make a post :)
Congrats!

[G8GT721]

yea i know lol, im just a kid(20) so i dont have a computer at work to be able to check browse all day. Its all i thought about all day and when i checked my phone when i got out my jaw like dropped.

i was so pumped i was driving quickly and a new 5 series came up next me so we pulled a little from 40-65 and up the hill there was a cop, and he pulled over the bmw and not me lol. Today is my lucky day; i dont know if i should go out this weekend or stay in just incase my luck is up

[norm8332]

Congrats! Power=Fun:)

[MANOFSTEEL69]

Congrats! I knew there was something I was going to do this morning. Guess I saved a hundred bucks! Lol! Congrats!
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[GeorgeInNePa]

Congrats!

I can't wait to hear about the power!

[DQGTO]

with that luck get your ass to a casino! Win some cash, buy another G8 as a DD and mod the shit out of your current one ahaha. Congrats tho man thats sick stuff. As a 21 year old myself I would shit my pants if I got that lol

[r33pwrd]

congrats!

[G8GT721]

with that luck get your ass to a casino! Win some cash, buy another G8 as a DD and mod the shit out of your current one ahaha. Congrats tho man thats sick stuff. As a 21 year old myself I would shit my pants if I got that lol

lol, dont you have to be 21 to get in the casino, ill go buy some scratch tickets i guess, btw i didn't shit but might haaved pissed alittle

[GrandPrix98GT]

Congrats!

[used2vtec]

Congratulations. You spent 300 dollars and got a 6500 dollar turbo kit, amazing!!! :)

[GM_Fan]

Congrats..you lucky bum :)

[-Ray-]

It's what I would want for my G8.

[G8GT721]

If i were to install this kit myself, and purchased larger injectors 60# does the car not utilize the extra capacity of the injectors until tuned?

[DQGTO]

lol, dont you have to be 21 to get in the casino, ill go buy some scratch tickets i guess, btw i didn't shit but might haaved pissed alittle

LOL! Ooops. Ive been in AC before at 19 and 20, and played. Just gotta go to the tropicana, they dont care about anything, unless you hit it big, then you gotta scramble to make sure you dont get caught when you give your chips to someone to cash in lol. Mainly you gotta stay on the machines lol

[Devilish34]

Congrats

[MtbDoc]

Congratulations on the big win. Be RESPONSIBLE and enjoy!

[G8GT721]

Congratulations on the big win. Be RESPONSIBLE and enjoy!

thanks i will, and i have worked hard to be able to buy this car on my own, so i consider myself responsible

[norm8332]

I used to think I was responsible when I was your age, that was until that house jumped in front of me one day....:)

[G8GT721]

i know he didn't mean it like im some punk kid, just aggrivates me when people think that way

[norm8332]

i know he didn't mean it like im some punk kid, just aggrivates me when people think that way

Hell, I still don't think I'm 100% responsible myself...How can you be all the time with a maggie or turbo? That wouldn't be any fun.:prostock:

Once again congrats. That system is a beast! Your going to love it. I might start thinking about better tires about now.

Good driving.

[bigwillys58]

i know he didn't mean it like im some punk kid, just aggrivates me when people think that way

i hear that man. congrats on the win!!

[peterg22000]

:finger:

there goes $100..

Congrats

[locrzn#92]

WTF, congrats man. Turn up the wick. Spin the f out of them twins.

[Rogue]

We had a lot of fun with this promotion especially towards the end where we were keeping everyone in suspense. Congratulations again Kevin and look for our next big promotion coming on Monday :)

[MANOFSTEEL69]

Damn Rogue! Didn't even know you were on here! Lol! Welcome!

[Devilish34]

We had a lot of fun with this promotion especially towards the end where we were keeping everyone in suspense. Congratulations again Kevin and look for our next big promotion coming on Monday :)


note to self check G8board on Monday

[-Ray-]

Damn Rogue! Didn't even know you were on here! Lol! Welcome!

LOL. It was his 1st post.
The last registered member. :)

[G8GT721]

We had a lot of fun with this promotion especially towards the end where we were keeping everyone in suspense. Congratulations again Kevin and look for our next big promotion coming on Monday :)

Welcome, it is unfortunate that they block this site even in a pm..lol

thanks again to Intense for the awesome promotion

[GRRRR8]

I dont know how I missed this, but CONGRATULATIONS!!! :woohoo:

[Kermit]

That's awesome man, I was thinking on doing that. Glad I didn’t now. :)

Once again, Congrats!!!!!

[Devilish34]

I'm so jealous but congrats again.


I dont know how I missed this, but CONGRATULATIONS!!! :woohoo:

that thong must of cut off the blood to your brain

[G8GT721]

thanks guys,

It looks like im going to do the 25-30hrs of installation in the garage with the help of a friend. Now i just need to get ready and think of anything i might need such as

Accessories-ie Plugs, Injectors, UD Pulley
Location for hi-flow cats
Tuning-Powerflash or find a local shop

[Rogue]

thanks guys,

It looks like im going to do the 25-30hrs of installation in the garage with the help of a friend. Now i just need to get ready and think of anything i might need such as

Accessories-ie Plugs, Injectors, UD Pulley
Location for hi-flow cats
Tuning-Powerflash or find a local shop

We have all the acessories you will need plus we have a tune already setup for the kit that will save you a lot of time. I can go over it if/when we talk today. :)

[confused2much]

Even though I'm uber jealous, congratulations.

[MtbDoc]

There is NO way I would go to the trouble of swapping the crank pulley. As noted in my Maggie install thread, it is a bit of a pain loosening and tightening the bolt. Wasted effort w/ the turbos.

Tuning: hope you have someone GOOD with turbos. Or, you might talk to the vendor and beg/buy a CONSERVATIVE tune that could be flashed w/ HPT. Then get further tweaking at your leisure. OTOH, if you have someone GOOD in your area, let them HAVE AT IT!

[steined]

I concur with MtbDoc. Why the UD pulley?

As for tuning, INTENSE should have a great base tune for the system. I've known the owner for a long time and my dealings with them were all positive. Only reasons I didn't get an APS system were the somewhat remote possibility of having to move to the land of commies in CA for an extended period of time (CARB stuff) and a higher cost than the Maggie from Livernois. I think you'll enjoy it!

[Rogue]

I agree with the UD pulley. It isn't needed. We are sending along our tune based on many installs and dynos so it will be very close but a bit conservative. With HP Tuners you can modify it as you need later on.

[G8GT721]

I concur with MtbDoc. Why the UD pulley?


i was just throwing it out there, as i researched last night i decided it was to much work as MrbDoc said


I agree with the UD pulley. It isn't needed. We are sending along our tune based on many installs and dynos so it will be very close but a bit conservative. With HP Tuners you can modify it as you need later on.

how much do you think will be left on the table?

[Rogue]

i was just throwing it out there, as i researched last night i decided it was to much work as MrbDoc said



how much do you think will be left on the table?

Not a bunch. We intentionally leave our mail order tunes a bit rich as a safety precaustion.

[G8GT721]

i was just throwing it out there, as i researched last night i decided it was to much work as MrbDoc said



how much do you think will be left on the table?


Not a bunch. We intentionally leave our mail order tunes a bit rich as a safety precaustion.

safe is good, i cant wait to get the boxes on thursday, and go through the parts list which is about 20 pages

[UGotSmkd]

I just looked up the APS TT kit for the G8. That thing is viscious. I wouldn't even attempt to install that bad boy.......way too many small parts. So what do you think, about 550 to the wheels after the install and tune? BTW congrats!

[G8GT721]

I just looked up the APS TT kit for the G8. That thing is viscious. I wouldn't even attempt to install that bad boy.......way too many small parts. So what do you think, about 550 to the wheels after the install and tune? BTW congrats!

lol yea it is alot hopefully i don't regret it. Im taking a week of vacation so i'll have plenty of time and should get it done

i think the stock kit after tune is 470-480rwhp, which is around 550-600 at the crank assuming 20% drivetrain loss....its gonna be badass

[G8GT594]

Fucking bad ass man! Congrats!!!!

[-Ray-]

lol yea it is alot hopefully i don't regret it. Im taking a week of vacation so i'll have plenty of time and should get it done

i think the stock kit after tune is 470-480rwhp, which is around 550-600 at the crank assuming 20% drivetrain loss....its gonna be badass

Wish I lived closer, I'd like to be in on the install of this unit.

[G8GT721]

APS TT has arrived, as well as INTENSE ecm, 60# injectors, plugs, and 6000k HID kit from JeTTTstream
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^^Every nut, bolt, washer & tie wrap recieved
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6000k from JeTTTstream

[-Ray-]

Soon there will be another :jerkoff: video.

[dispatchg8gt]

100% pure car porn.

[DewieJr]

Looks great man! Congrats to you!

[confused2much]

I can't wait for you to update us throughout your week of progress. It's going to be sic when you get it done.

[VegasNate]

Dude, that's awesome. I can't wait to see your results!

[GrandPrix98GT]

100% pure car porn.

I have to agree. :thumbsup:

[crzyls2]

Congrats....I tried winning this thing but as you can see it didnt happen. Now I have to fork out the bread...oh well gotta pay to play. Enjoy your kit man!

I should be there in a few weeks....

[G8GT721]

Started the build this afternoon, made some headway. So far i removed the front fascia/bumper, radiator support panel, and put in the new windhshield washer assembly and a few other things. I would have done more but some screws/inserts in the bumper beam gave me a hard time, ill deal with that tommorrow. I also tried doing the new ecm learn but i must have screwed it up(10minutes, cycle off and repeat three times;no luck.) If anyone knows the procedure it would be great if you could post it or pm me.

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[locrzn#92]

Best hun you ever spent. Awsome.

[G8GT721]

yea it was

[G8GT721]

The time i spent on the project today wasn't to productive, spent most of the day screwing around with getting the welder powered up. All i got done today besides that was the Heater Hose Mod (http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=326). As well as the new injectors 60lb injectors, that went pretty smooth except that two o-rings got stuck in the fuel rail and of course it was it the back, had to use paper clip and a mirror to pop them out

today was just on off those days, hopefully tommorrow will be better

[norm8332]

Thats a lot of work but it's worth it! How long do you think it will take you?

[Devilish34]

Man thats a lot of work... Do you have help or are you going solo?

[G8GT721]

Im going to guess and say 25-30hrs, its to early to tell but hopefully tuesday i can get it back together. i am also installing an HID kit at the same time, and putting new pads on the front because they were down to about 3/32th on one side and 1/16th on the other. After that im going to try out my new complete detailing kit:)

[G8GT721]

Man thats a lot of work... Do you have help or are you going solo?

im getting help from my dad, hes been nutting and bolting his whole life, it would probably take me month of sundays without him

[Devilish34]

I bet good luck and take your time

[DHmotorsports08]

Very jealous if things dont work out with the kit i would love to give you a hundred for it. Well good luck and enjoy it maybe ill be at your level sometime in the near to not so far future

[G8GT721]

Today was a good day, got alot of stuff done! Installed the intercooler to the bumper beam, and mounted headlight assembly back on the car. I also put the wiring harness back on the radiator support, and the winshield washer pump extension, dropped the cats. But most importantly assembled most of the turbos pieces(fittings, flex adaptors, wastegates)


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[stryker g8gt]

n i c e

[SLVRG8GT]

looking good! :D

[G8GT721]

Almost done! Installed both turbos and installed the water/coolant lines from the turbos to the engine block. I had a few road blocks today. The first one was where the turbos and magnaflow catback flanges met. The turbo flange was straight and the catback flange was ****ed at a 30degree angle. So i had to sawzall the flanges off the catback exhaust, find the stock exhaust which had a rotatable flange. Then go to an exhasut shop and have him fab a small piece of pipe, needless to say PITA. The next one was the damn ECM learn, i must be an idiot because i tried three times and cant figure it out!

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Ball & Socket Flange/rotatable flange ^^^^
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[Devilish34]

NICE!!!!!! I wish I lived closer...not to help to to get in for a ride when you're done.

Are you still on target for Tuesday completion ??

[G8GT721]

NICE!!!!!! I wish I lived closer...not to help to to get in for a ride when you're done.

Are you still on target for Tuesday completion ??

yes, as long as i dont have a bad ECM it says "engine immobilized, see owners manual"

i did the relearn like 3 or 4 times and nothing different

Relearn (http://www.intense-racing.com/docs/Pontiac_G8_Security_Relearn.pdf)

[G8GT721]

Done!
Finished up the install a few hours ago, to bad its all rainy and shitty out so i can't have to much fun. If i had to guess i would say that it took me close to if not more than 30 hours to do the install, plus running around and all that other bs that goes with any project

Thanks to INTENSE-Racing (http://www.intense-racing.com)

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[VegasNate]

30 hours you'll never regret.

[G8GT721]

30 hours you'll never regret.

haha damn right:woohoo:

i gave it just a little gas and got sideways and then heard the blow off valve, huge grin like i was a kid at christmas

[norm8332]

I noticed pedders in the pictures do you have all the bushings installed?

[G8GT721]

I noticed pedders in the pictures do you have all the bushings installed?

yes sir

[-Ray-]

Good job man. I'm happy for you.

[Rogue]

Awesome job on the install. Thanks for letting us watch your progress. I'm glad we were able to help with advice where needed and that you have the car running. We expect a full disclosure on the amount of pleasure this kit brings :)

Also, respect the traction control button. Without it the car can get away from you in a big hurry.

[norm8332]

Also, respect the traction control button. Without it the car can get away from you in a big hurry.

I second this from experience!

Have fun!:prostock:

[GeorgeInNePa]

I wanted to congratulate you, but I've decided to hate you instead.






;)

[confused2much]

^ +1 ^

[kje141]

I wanted to congratulate you, but I've decided to hate you instead.






;)

I concur, especially since there aren't any videos. :nah:

[DQGTO]

I want full pics here. Completed car, under the hood shots, etc. And then video! I wanna hear that shit man!

[G8GT721]

Drove around for a while today, and can notice a big difference. Breath on the gas and you getting sideways. Heres some pics and a rev to about 5k nothing special
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[G8GT721]

Good job man. I'm happy for you.

Thanks Ray


Awesome job on the install. Thanks for letting us watch your progress. I'm glad we were able to help with advice where needed and that you have the car running. We expect a full disclosure on the amount of pleasure this kit brings :)

Also, respect the traction control button. Without it the car can get away from you in a big hurry.

Thanks to you guys, tell Bob i said thanks for his help

Traction control wont come off until i got lots of room to spin around lol


I wanted to congratulate you, but I've decided to hate you instead.

;)

thanks george:nah::nah:


I want full pics here. Completed car, under the hood shots, etc. And then video! I wanna hear that shit man!

I'll get some more pics next week when im home and after a good detail

[It's A G8!]

Are the turbos to loud when driving?

[G8GT721]

Are the turbos to loud when driving?

i drove around with the radio off just to hear them, and the blow off valve. Im sure if you had the radio on, you would barely even notice them.

[Devilish34]

Where is that envy smiley????

[It's A G8!]

Even at full throttle are they loud inside the car?

[G8GT721]

Even at full throttle are they loud inside the car?

i think the exhaust drowns it out heres a clip inside of the car, the noise in the beginning is the aux oil pump which is kinda loud

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[DQGTO]

thank you sir! Looks good man. Im very jealous and I am slowly falling for white hot g8s more and more lol

[Devilish34]

i think the exhaust drowns it out heres a clip inside of the car, the noise in the beginning is the aux oil pump which is kinda loud



cel

[G8GT721]

cel

i love how observant people can be, theres one thing nobody noticed yet which surprised me

P0521 'Engine Oil Pressure sensor/switch circuit range/performance"

I had to relocate the oil sender, just haven't had time to check the wiring or to see if i blocked it with sealant

[GeoffA]

i love how observant people can be, theres one thing nobody noticed yet which surprised me

P0521 'Engine Oil Pressure sensor/switch circuit range/performance"

I had to relocate the oil sender, just haven't had time to check the wiring or to see if i blocked it with sealant

Your Big Wheel with the 15'' Dubs?

[DQGTO]

lol man you had to really stare and look hard to find that big wheel, kudos

[G8GT721]

Your Big Wheel with the 15'' Dubs?

lol, its power wheels silverado

[Devilish34]

Are those propane tanks empty or full? :p

[G8GT721]

Took the car to SlOWHAWK Performance, i got lazy and used stock spark plugs, so it was pulling timing/misfiring, so i have to replace them and go see him again but here are the numbers. Don thinks it should be close to 480hp and above 500tq:woohoo:
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4th gear pull, 453hp/504hp ^^^^^^
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first pull in 3rd gear

[Ktlplxm]

Why are people dynoing them in 3rd gear instead of fourth?

[G8GT721]

Why are people dynoing them in 3rd gear instead of fourth?

he only did it once in 3rd gear

[-Ray-]

Did he roll into the throttle? Sounded like it took a bit to spool up. Great work man.

[Ktlplxm]

he only did it once in 3rd gear

I was just saying in general. I've read where lots of people are running the cars in third, and it skews the numbers.

[It's A G8!]

Is it just me or thats a lot of smoke coming out of the mufflers?