HID beam pattern in OEM halogen projector housings?

[pha|anx]

I was hoping to get more serious replies here as opposed to appearance/detailing, lighting technology isn't for looks afterall... lol I ran a search of the forum and of the net in general about this, maybe I should've taken a closer look at some of the forums down under... anyways the question is this, does anyone with HID's installed have pictures of before/after beam patterns having installed HID's? the cutoff and spread is what I want to see most, on walls, objects, etc.

I wanted to know and 'see' physically the difference for our projector housing. I love these 1000000x more than my Grand Prix's lamps this thing replaced (worst F'ing headlight design PERIOD), but I wouldn't mind them being brighter. HID's aren't my number 1 choice (I think I'm just going to buy GE Nighthawks-- h11 is an uncommon bulb type...), but I want to see nonetheless.

:confused: pics anyone?

FWIW, my roommates 09' Mustang GT came from the factory with some nice tilting I think (sounds mechanical) non-projector 4300k HID's that slant up and down for hi/low beams. makes me jealous, his beam pattern spread and cutoff is VERY projector like.

[PantherGTBlack]

I'll see what I can do for ya. I should be able to get some pics up tonight or tomorrow.

[pha|anx]

SWEET! thanks man! I had a 6k bi kit for my Grand Prix, but the only reason I bought em' was to see moose when I lived out east and drove a lot in the mountains at night. did I mention those things (97-03) had the worst EVER designed headlamp assemblies? lol.

as far as HID's go every ricer and their mom has them here, on every make and model of vehicle you can imagine (most prevalent in big stupid trucks that I can't wait to rip the 'truck nuts' off of in the summer time). if I went the HID route it'd be 4300k or broke this time 'round, but I'd rather just a bright ass halogen and none of the PITA with HID's (relay harnesses, extra fuses, bulb warm up/delay, colour dimming/clouding over time, shake over harsh surfaces, etc.).

thanks again! :D

[pha|anx]

67 views and 1 reply? common, gotta be more people with HID's than that!

:bump:

[-Ray-]

I didn't reply as I've never had HID's.
Since we have a projector lens, how would the beam pattern change?

[dispatchg8gt]

The optics for halogen vs xenon are different. i.e. the little convex lens piece is different in xenon applications vs halogen. Far as differences in beam pattern: With the set I have installed There was no splash outside of the cutoff that I've seen (we have a large pole-barn that I used for checking) Spread is still the same toward the front. Haven't had anyone drive my vehicle yet to check side-to-side spread. No pics, though :(

[jetttstream]

HIDs and a projector housing are a match made in heaven.

A few of the guys on here have our HID kit and the light output is dramatically increased.

I know what you are coming from I first got into 'HIDs' back in 2002 with my 01 GTP...talk about HORRIBLE headlight housings....

-Mike

[pha|anx]

right on guys, thanks for the replies! side splash... I didn't consider that as being a potential problem spot. Glare is the enemy, the only way I didn't get flashed by oncoming traffic in my Grand Prix was to aim the low's so low down to the ground that they were almost useless (hi-beams though, that's a different story lol :devil:). some good info in this thread though, I wish we had more pics!

are modern HID kits as bad as the old ones? my GP lights took like 30 seconds to warm up from hi/low-- left you literally in the dark on the highway at night.

:confused:

[dispatchg8gt]

With the remote start I haven't ever had an issue getting into the vehicle :nah: To answer your question though; ballast technology has improved vastly. Hell the ballast I have is about half the width of a pack of cigarettes and about 1.5 packs side-to-side. Picked mine up from ddmtuning.com. Wiring is plug-and-play for 35 watters. For 55 I'd suggest a wiring harness. Some guys suggest a harness for either but I never had an issue on my '04 GP with 35w and stock harness.

Far as warm-up time; should be less than 3 seconds from the time the bulb actually ignites to the time you get usable light. Full brightness achieved in around 10 seconds. My color goes from bluish to white / blue tinge in that timeframe anyways.

[MtbDoc]

My GTO has HID high and low. 55w with no harness...and they are phenomenal. Daylight with both lights running. Remember: the low beam stays on, so a slow warm-up high beam is not such a big deal. I will probably change mine (G8) out soon...

[d_toll]

Has anyone had a chance yet to get some pics with HID's on their car yet?

[MAYBEN]

I'm shocked no one has posted any

[NYG8GT]

Has anyone had a chance yet to get some pics with HID's on their car yet?


I'm shocked no one has posted any

Ummmmmmm......... ;)

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=5022

[pha|anx]

Ummmmmmm......... ;)

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=5022

that being the only thread I can find that shows PICTURES, I wonder how things like glare and side splash are (original question).

I'd love to see a high quality or high def cold start-up video of them warming up, beam pattern on a wall, and different angles, from the front and side to side to check for glare... that'd be awesome lol.

:deadhorse:

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Here's some pics of mine. I just installed them Friday nite and did a quick test drive, they cover the road great, with nobody flashing me.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/P1030182.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/P1030181.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/P1030180.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/P1030179.jpg

[pha|anx]

Here's some pics of mine. I just installed them Friday nite and did a quick test drive, they cover the road great, with nobody flashing me.

Nice. what color range is that? did you do a glare test before/after, to see how they were compared to the halogens?

thanks for posting :D

[MAYBEN]

Ummmmmmm......... ;)

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=5022

I meant in this thread

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

They are 5000K bulbs and I got the kit on Ebay for $75 shipped. I didn't do a glare comparison to the stock halogens, but they gotta be better than the HID's I had in my 04 Grand Prix with standard headlights. I never had any issues with them, and I had them for 3 years.

[pha|anx]

*bump*, anyone else? pics? opinions? facts? :hang:

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Just do it, you will be very happy with the HID's in the projectors.

[PontiacDan]

I dont have any of the beam cutoff, but here are 6k in 35watt

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2851/4661/32127330013_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2851/4661/32127330012_large.jpg

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Dan I think he wants to see the beam pattern on the road, he also asked for your opinion of them in the projectors.

[pha|anx]

Dan I think he wants to see the beam pattern on the road, he also asked for your opinion of them in the projectors.

everything is relevant, I appreciate any and all posts in this thread. its not just for my peace of mind on making a purchase, its about actually dissecting the differences in the entire light spread pattern of this type of bulb over the halogen in the OEM projector setup.

glare is important to me, I don't know about the rest of you but after having HID's in shit OE capsules before and having them glare like crazy (only useful when aimed at the road), HID kit's really turn me off unless those kinds of issues with these projectors don't exist.

keep em' coming guys!

:woohoo:

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Installing HID's in the projectors we have is far better than having them in OEM capsules. The cutoff is very defined, and when I look at my HID's when they're on at nite, there is no glare at all. The camera intensifies the glare in the pictures that we posted, all I see is the lit up projector when I look at them.

[d_toll]

Just got my kit today from Vision Bulbs. It's a 35w 8000K kit and it came with a harness. It's getting ready to rain here and the outlook isn't to great for tomarrow either so i'll get them installed as soon as possible. I'll post up some pics of the cutoff line on a wall, kit pictures, and a final shot from the front with comparison photos of all angles. It doesn't look like it's going to be to hard really.

Dave

[dispatchg8gt]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a375/DonRome/P1030179.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a250/rboddy/G8%20GT/IMG_1550.jpg


These two show it best. There is just a little bit of bleed through in the upper limits on both of those pictures just above the center of the light beam. However there is no noticeable glare at any distance.