Think I finally decided on some wheels... [Archive] - GRRRR8.net

Paniller

03-01-2009, 07:46 PM

GRRRR8

03-01-2009, 07:48 PM

They will look good on a white car.

bwooten492

03-01-2009, 07:48 PM

I like them alot. I think they will look sharp.

mtolivecracker

03-01-2009, 07:50 PM

tough to say. the rim looks great. i love 5 spokes, but cant tell how it would look in real life.

Paniller

03-01-2009, 07:53 PM

holy hell you guys responded fast. I think this is my new home, more friendly and active than g8board.

Will it work with the following offsets?
Front: 8", 35 offset
Rear: 9.5", 45 offset

I think that'll work, just want to make sure. They also offer a 20 offset in each, but I think that's too far tucked in.

tough to say. the rim looks great. i love 5 spokes, but cant tell how it would look in real life.
Yeah, I don't see many of them. I was thinking mesh or many spokes, which is a classy look for a sedan. But, they suck to clean, and I want to retain a sporty look. 5 thick spokes is nice, and highlights the muscle car feel. But, I wanted something to make it look a little more sporty and agile. 5 thick spokes is just too common, and looks like stock. I decided on the split spoke, because it gives a nice balanced look. Kinda simple and powerful, and it'll give the car more of a refined, agile appearance.

I'll take some pictures if I pull the trigger and get them in. They're kinda steep pricewise, I wanted to stick with 18's @ under $700 and reuse my stock tires (stock wheels have blizzaks now). But, they have a sportier look, and I think they need to be at least 19's to work. So, ~$950 + tires.

GRRRR8

03-01-2009, 07:54 PM

Offsets will work fine.

Darkside

03-01-2009, 08:05 PM

Tsw is really putting out some nice looking wheels, should look nice.

r33pwrd

03-01-2009, 08:18 PM

how big is the lip on the 9.5 45mm offset?

Paniller

03-01-2009, 08:36 PM

I think it was 1.75" for the front lip, and 3 or 3.5" for the rear. I forget though

yep, confirmed. 1.75 and 3.

http://www.tsw.com/alloy_wheels_cadwell.php

djchubbs

03-01-2009, 08:38 PM

looks grrrr8 but i am a chrome fan

r33pwrd

03-01-2009, 08:43 PM

looks grrrr8 but i am a chrome fan

crome is an option!

r33pwrd

03-01-2009, 08:46 PM

their website only shows a 8.5?

MediaGuy

03-01-2009, 09:09 PM

Don't know if you've seen this yet, but:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5350653

They're on a GTO, but that gives you an idea of how they'd look.

nph2005

03-02-2009, 02:25 AM

Will it work with the following offsets?
Front: 8", 35 offset
Rear: 9.5", 45 offset

I think that'll work, just want to make sure. They also offer a 20 offset in each, but I think that's too far tucked in.

Just bought some TSW's and really like them.
Wouldn't a 20 offset push the wheel farther out, not tuck it in? The 35/45 offsets should fit great though.

-Ray-

03-02-2009, 03:20 AM

Just bought some TSW's and really like them.
Wouldn't a 20 offset push the wheel farther out, not tuck it in? The 35/45 offsets should fit great though.

Larger positive offsets put the wheel toward the inner well. A good offset for a 9 1/2" wheel would be around 50mm.
Nice looking wheels.

nph2005

03-02-2009, 06:07 AM

Larger positive offsets put the wheel toward the fender well. A good offset for a 9 1/2" wheel would be around 50mm.
Nice looking wheels.

Doesn't make sense. A 45mm offset would fit, but a 35mm offset might rub and 20mm would stick out past the fender. The stock offsets are around 48mm aren't they. My 35mm offset wheels are more toward the fender well than the stock rims are. So a smaller positive offset should push the wheel toward the outside fender well. Am I missing it completely? Used website below for comparison.

http://www.wheelsmaster.com/rt_specs.jsp

Paniller

03-02-2009, 09:48 AM

Don't know if you've seen this yet, but:

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5350653

They're on a GTO, but that gives you an idea of how they'd look.
Oh wow, thanks man. They look completely different from what I expected...thinner spokes. Not sure if this changes my mind or not. hrmmm.

Paniller

03-02-2009, 03:32 PM

So, before I dump money, you guys are sure the 19/8"+35mm front and 19/9.5"+45mm rear will work?

I'm just worried because I hear a 9.5" w/ 35mm offset will rub. Yet, a 45mm offset will lose me another 10mm of backspacing. So, won't that rub as well?

99-LS1-SS

03-02-2009, 03:34 PM

19 x 9.5" with a +45mm offset will work.

G8GT594

03-02-2009, 07:21 PM

Wonder how they would look on a liquid red. Any photoshoppers out there?

EcoBrick Bob

03-02-2009, 07:43 PM

Did you check prices? Discount Tire is offering $50. off per set. VQ sometimes has better prices also.

I have narrow 5 spokes on Sport Red - one issue is that hub shows. (These are temporary - off my GTO ) Car was on lot for several months and hub has some rust. One neat thing... you can paint your calipers red! TSW has many attractive 5 spoke designs. Several have wider lips (2" front & 3" rear).

Wheels are ultimately one's personal taste!

-Ray-

03-03-2009, 05:16 AM

Doesn't make sense. A 45mm offset would fit, but a 35mm offset might rub and 20mm would stick out past the fender. The stock offsets are around 48mm aren't they. My 35mm offset wheels are more toward the fender well than the stock rims are. So a smaller positive offset should push the wheel toward the outside fender well. Am I missing it completely? Used website below for comparison.

http://www.wheelsmaster.com/rt_specs.jsp

Positive offset - the hub mounting surface is toward the front or wheel side of the wheel.

From the sticky in this forum.

Rule of thumb: the lower the offset, the further the wheel moved OUTWARD of the fender, and vice versa.

Offset is from the centerline of the wheel. If you increase offset, you are moving the centerline of the wheel. The mounting surface doesn't move.
So if you look at it like that. Adding positive offset, moves the wheel away from the mounting pad.

Paniller

03-08-2009, 03:51 PM

lol. Looks like the wheels are a go!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/paniller/0307092136.jpg

DQGTO

03-08-2009, 04:09 PM

AC?

G8GT594

03-08-2009, 04:20 PM

lol. Looks like the wheels are a go!

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/paniller/0307092136.jpg

lol nice! Please do get pics when you get them on... Right now they are my number one choice.

Paniller

03-08-2009, 04:38 PM

AC?
lol, yeah. I never gamble, just went there for a birthday party. My friends were gambling all night, and I just watched. Later on, I got drunk and figured I'd throw $5 in the video poker machine. I told my friends "Just watch, it's always the guy that doesn't gamble that wins." Five minutes later, they find me surrounded by security people, counting out $100 bills. lol.

Not a life changing amount of money, but it certainly helps right now.

08G8V8

03-08-2009, 09:18 PM

Cha Ching! Very nice!

DQGTO

03-08-2009, 09:56 PM

shit man thats great....id take 50 bucks right now lol that would help me lol

Paniller

03-09-2009, 03:54 PM

wheels ordered. $1830. Kinda steep, hope they look as good on my car as they do in the pictures.

$1830 - $1000 AC winning - $650 income tax return = $180 wheels for Paniller!:woohoo:

Though, it sets me back on my VMS tune:spank:

EcoBrick Bob

03-09-2009, 04:30 PM

Congrats!!!!!!!

-Ray-

03-09-2009, 04:34 PM

Looking forward to seeing them on your car.

bigtreepu

03-10-2009, 05:34 PM

I'm just curious....Does anyone think the stock rims are nice looking, or am I alone over here....? Those rims do look nice as well.
~Matt

Paniller

03-10-2009, 07:01 PM

I'm just curious....Does anyone think the stock rims are nice looking, or am I alone over here....? Those rims do look nice as well.
~Matt
I'm with ya. I just figured if I had to buy new wheels, I'd might as well go with something original. All my other choices looked very close to stock. This was the only choice that wasn't the "thick 5-spoke" look.

Paniller

03-18-2009, 07:27 AM

They came in this morning. I'll try to get them on tonight if I can shuffle stuff around to get garage space (brother and his gf went on vacation, I'm cluttered with cars).

I'll have to see how they look on the car, but I'm a little disappointed. They don't look as aggressive and sharp as in the picture. Also, they have a faded chrome appearance, no high contrast black vs gunmetal like in the picture. The black section looks light grey in the real world. They're much plainer looking than in the picture, and it almost looks like the spokes aren't as close together. I guess pictures can be deceiving. It does look like the GTO linked though, so thanks for that. They look nice, just not $1800 nice. I like them, but don't "love" them. One I saw them in person, I started wondering if I could have done better. I guess I'll have to see them on the car.

I only unwrapped 1, a 275/35/19 wrapped one. Weighed ~59 lbs. I guess I'd have to weigh the 8" fronts with 245/40/19 for a fair comparison to stock.

I'll see if I can get them on tonight, give the car a bath, and snap a picture or two.

G8GT594

03-18-2009, 07:36 PM

Please post pics when you get them on. Very interested in these wheels....

jbradsh1

03-19-2009, 03:46 AM

They will look good on a white car.

Charlie, do you think the staggered fitment (8" in front vs 9.5" in the back) will cause any type of handling issue, like hard turn, in or something like that? I'm planning the same upgrade with TSW wheels in fact (different ones).

adriand

03-19-2009, 05:43 AM

http://www.1010tires.com/images/wheels/super/TSW_cadwell_gmetal_lg_super.jpg

TSW Cadwell. I'm going with 19's. 8" in the front, 9.5" in the back.

What do you guys think? It'll be on a white G8.

Those are the same wheels I was originally going to get but got impaitent waiting for them to finally be available then a couple weeks after I got my Breytons they were available! I hope they turn out good for you. I'm very happy with my Breytons!!:woohoo:

Paniller

03-19-2009, 08:47 AM

I'll try to get them on tonight. I tried last night, but ran into issues. Wasted about an hour and $45 worth of sockets to find out that the stock lug nuts were 22mm. Then, I got everything off, and realized the replacement lug nuts provided were 12x1.5 instead of 14x1.5.

Round 2 is tonight.

Paniller

03-20-2009, 07:21 AM

tonight. I promise. Trust me, I've been trying.

. 4 runs to stores and $45 to find the right socket
. wrong lug nuts
. 5 runs to stores and $45 to find the right lug nuts
. a sprained knee from stomping on a breaker bar for a stuck nut
. a rounded lug nut
. a trip to the mechanic resulting in "I can keep going, but the stud will break"

All detailed in here.
http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?p=62234#post62234

With any luck, they'll be on tonight...all of them.

Kolossus

03-21-2009, 06:13 AM

post some pix when she's all done brother... gonna look sweet!

Paniller

03-21-2009, 12:20 PM

Sorry for the delay. Went out drinking last night, finally got them on today, with a wicked hangover.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/paniller/car/0321091555.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/paniller/car/0321091555b.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/paniller/car/0321091555c.jpg

Paniller

03-21-2009, 12:22 PM

not as good looking as expected, but not the worst, either. I really need to paint some calipers, though.

jimmytt6

03-21-2009, 01:02 PM

Tsw is really putting out some nice looking wheels, should look nice.

Yes they are. The car I just traided in for my G8 I had 19 TSW Nogaro's on them. I have debating weather to put some new Nogaro's on my G8. My second choice of TSW's was the Caldwell. I really want the CCW SP500 but that's another 1K for them:wacko:

Jim

Paniller

03-21-2009, 10:52 PM

They look badass at night, lol.

Anyway, I'm reporting back with a good deal of rubbing with a full car. Their maiden voyage was to pick up my brother and 2 girls from the airport. The girls were slightly on the thicker side, but not fat. With a full car and luggage, the tires rubbed terribly in the back. Good size bumps, or bumps while on a slight bend/turn rubbed.

The second trip was to a party, as D.D. Yes, it's been a terrible day of taxi driver for me. My friend and his girlfriend, she was in the back. No rubbing.

So, 275/35/19's on a 9.5 with +45 offset will rub if you're hauling cargo.

GeorgeInNePa

03-21-2009, 11:08 PM

Are they rubbing on the outside?

45mm is the edge of "advisable" offset, according to some of the tire/wheel sellers.

45 to 60 is the range we need.

jimmytt6

03-22-2009, 05:10 AM

Has your car been lowered????

Paniller

03-22-2009, 03:03 PM

Nope, not lowered. Unless the rental car company that owned it before me lowers their fleet. lol. Lemme go check for marks, to see if it's the inside or outside rubbing.

update: I don't see rub marks anywhere. Maybe the outside edge, because the white trim (my paint color) part of the wheel well seems a little uneven. Maybe it wore down? Still though, nothing out of the ordinary. I'd say it could have been my luggage, but it was pretty distinct rubbing sounds. Plus, it came from whatever side the car was leaning to during a turn.

I should have some people sit in the trunk, and see where it touches when it leans down. In the pictures, I have a 56lb spare (blizzak on stock 18), and a ~20 lb jack.

jimmytt6

03-22-2009, 04:32 PM

Interesting..didn't think that combo would rub..
Well the car looks sharp I almost got white.

Ktlplxm

03-22-2009, 10:59 PM

The 20 offset would push them way out. Think 1988 spyhunter package

Ktlplxm

03-22-2009, 11:01 PM

Are they rubbing on the outside?

45mm is the edge of "advisable" offset, according to some of the tire/wheel sellers.

45 to 60 is the range we need.

How narrow of a wheel are they trying to advise the 60mm on? That would jam a 10" against the inner edge, or so it seems

GeorgeInNePa

03-22-2009, 11:21 PM

How narrow of a wheel are they trying to advise the 60mm on? That would jam a 10" against the inner edge, or so it seems

20x10"

It was a post by Discount Tire on another website.

They said the acceptable range was 45 to 60mm offset on a 20x10.