Catch Can Question

[norm8332]

I found this catch can on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories___S-OIL-RESERVOIR-CATCH-CAN-TANK-EP3-EG-EK-DA6-BB6-CRX-SI_W0QQitemZ160317839924QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20Access oriesQQddiZ2811QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck _Parts_Accessories?hash=item160317839924&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A15%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

Anyone, do you think this will work on our car? I wanted one with an indicator and this has one.

I wouldn't use that junk hose it comes with. I'm more function over form as to the looks of it.

[wreckwriter]

Yes, it will work fine. Just have to figure out a mount.

[norm8332]

Thanks, Ill order then. Now that the blower is going on, I really think I need it.

[-Ray-]

Isn't that for a Civic? I guess for $16...........

[norm8332]

Isn't that for a Civic? I guess for $16...........

I'll see how it works...Only $16 shipped. It's big enough etc.

Trying to conserve money a bit after the blower expense.

[wreckwriter]

Catch can is a simple beast, hose fittings and mounts adapt most any can to most any car. There are internal differences that make some work better than others. For $16 I doubt its anything close to quality of Jame's can or an Elite Ind.

[norm8332]

I'm absolutely sure the quailty cannot compare to those others. I just want to prevent oil from getting into the blower as a stop-gap measure. If it doesn't work well, then I'll get a more expensive one.

Reviews on it have said it needs to be emptied at half full most likely because of the internal differences. I will empty it at each oil change or sooner anyways.

It's a cheap Chinese can, but for $16 I'll just toss it if it proves to be junk.

[-Ray-]

You empty it sooner so oil doesn't get sucked back up into the air stream. I understand the expense, currently I'm weighing my next large purchase.
Damn Charlie.

[MtbDoc]

I was just thinking the same thing. I KNOW that my turbo'd LS2 has a need for the catch can...same here. Somehow the $120 cans just seem a BIT pricey. Nothing all of that complicated to them.

[norm8332]

After seeing this intercooler shot I knew I needed something.

Thanks for the comments.

[GRRRR8]

You empty it sooner so oil doesn't get sucked back up into the air stream. I understand the expense, currently I'm weighing my next large purchase.
Damn Charlie.

Dont blame me! :devil:

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Catch can is a simple beast, hose fittings and mounts adapt most any can to most any car. There are internal differences that make some work better than others. For $16 I doubt its anything close to quality of Jame's can or an Elite Ind.
Do $500 wheels work better than $100 wheels? One just looks better than the other, they both go down the road the same. So I'm sure that inexpensive catch can will work just fine.

[GRRRR8]

I think the age old adage always applies: You get what you pay for.

[Featherburner]

Do $500 wheels work better than $100 wheels? They're probably stronger and lighter. So... yes they do work better. :D

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Charlie it's much cheaper to mass produce a part than it is to make a hand made custom part. That doesn't make the custom part any better.

If I would mass produce my parts I'd sell them for 1/3 the cost that I do. But I don't have tons of money to build a die and buy a press to put it in.

[-Ray-]

This is an arguement that has no end.

[GRRRR8]

Agreed, but using your wheel statement as an example: If your $100 wheel weighs 23lbs and the $500 wheel weighs 15lbs and is truer at high speeds... well there is one example. A catch can could be made out of a 20oz soda bottle, but that doesnt mean I would have it on my car. I cant penalize a company for spending thousands in research and design and advertising to make a product if thats what they are in business to do, but at the same time I highly respect the time and efforts of the "little man" as I am one also. :)

[MtbDoc]

The key requirement for a FUNCTIONAL catch-can is sufficient area for condensation of the oil vapor to occur, and the capability to store/drain what is collected.

And no, you DON'T always get what you pay for. I have certainly learned that this adage is SOMETIMES TRUE and SOMETIMES NOT! But remember, as my father taught me as a young man: life is too short to drink cheap booze...

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

but at the same time I highly respect the time and efforts of the "little man" as I am one also. :)
So am I, but that doesn't mean my parts are better than mass produced ones. It just so happens I'm the only one in the nation that makes the parts I sell, so they have to come to me.

[G8GT594]

Should i pick this up or pass on it?

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

I don't see anything wrong with it. In fact I'm gonna get one too, but in red to match my car.

[GeorgeInNePa]

After seeing this intercooler shot I knew I needed something.

Thanks for the comments.

How would a catch can have helped with that?

[norm8332]

How would a catch can have helped with that?

Thats the intercooler underneath the roots type supercharger (in the intake) and according to the site where that was posted the oil goo built up on it because of a lack of a catch can. But that was a race car, so I imagine that is an extreme case.

Regardless of the amount of oil getting into the intake, a catch can certainly can't hurt.

[wreckwriter]

These engines put a lot of oil into the intake, not a little, ask anyone who has pulled the intake manifold. I feel a catch can is really needed.

[BSmith]

I'd love to see how the inside of the $16 can works. I can tell you that we just picked up coalescing filters for the powder coating setup @ approx $300 a pop, with an $80 replacement insert... If you saw what the replacement filter looked like compared to the Jamesbiz catch can, it's essentially the same fawking thing. Build quality is better in the Jamesbiz catch can too.

[GeorgeInNePa]

Thats the intercooler underneath the roots type supercharger (in the intake) and according to the site where that was posted the oil goo built up on it because of a lack of a catch can. But that was a race car, so I imagine that is an extreme case.

Regardless of the amount of oil getting into the intake, a catch can certainly can't hurt.

Ah, I didn't realize that was an "under the blower" intercooler.

[wreckwriter]

My personal opinion is that Jame's can is the best for anyone not using a ProCharger. For those of us with PC, Elite can is mountable using directions I posted in DIY section. The standard mount point for Jame's can is NOT usable with a ProCharger.

[norm8332]

I got the $16 buck can yesterday. It is cheap and has to be disassembled and reassembled to get it good.

Looks ok with some manufacturing blemishes on the top and bottom.

As for whats inside:Nothing. Just a longer tube near the edge and a shorter output tube near the center of the top.

I think it will work OK, but we'll see. Seems a bit small??

Definitely a Chinese item made in a low-tech factory. (looks like it could be made partly by hand)

http://forum.grrrr8.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1100&stc=1&d=1236298100

[Crazy Paul]

As for whats inside:Nothing. Just a longer tube near the edge and a shorter output tube near the center of the top.

Fill it up with those stainless steel pot scourer things you can buy from the supermarket/hardware.

http://www.skevi.com/images/6670032.jpg

[wreckwriter]

Fill it up with those stainless steel pot scourer things you can buy from the supermarket/hardware.

http://www.skevi.com/images/6670032.jpg

Yup, do that.

[norm8332]

How full should it be filled?

Just loosely full?

I'll give it a try. The inside looks clean. Couldn't hurt.

I hate being a cheapskate on some things. I'm gonna toss it at the first issue.

[Crazy Paul]

Just loosely fill it up to the base of the outlet "diptube".
Should give you plenty of surface area for the oil droplets to cling to, slow the flow down so the droplets can drop out of the vapour.....and still give you plenty of volume within the "weave" of the scourer pads to collect the liquid at the bottom.

[norm8332]

Will do. Thanks.

[MtbDoc]

Actually it's not to collect droplets, but to act as a condensing surface. The oil is in vapor form coming out of the valve cover. The vapor will condense on the cooler steel surface. This provides more surface area.

You don't want ANY vapor getting back into the engine, as THAT is the source of (condensed) oil in the intake.

I just got back from Home Depot where I bought a large air/oil separator (for a compressor). They work quite well...and $26 works.

Full Disclosure: I have an Elite cc on my GTO. Very nice. James' can looks good as well. Time will tell whether I will ever feel like changing it on the G8.