Law Enforcement G8

[Crazy Paul]

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It turns out the car is the work of a Melbourne company, National Safety Agency, that specialises in innovative technology development for emergency services operations around the world.

The L.A.P.D. Pontiac is a prototype designed to showcase the technology the company has been working on over the past two years for both Australian and international agencies. It will be demonstrated to senior members of the L.A.P.D. on Monday in Sydney after being on display at next week's APOC (Association of Public Safety Communication Officials) conference.

National Safety Agency (NSA) director Des Bahr told the Carsales Network that the Pontiac employs several new features specially designed to improve officer safety, efficiency and reduce cost. The most notable is the police computer screen being molded directly into the dashboard. The company was able to integrate many of the separate technologies used by law enforcement agencies into the single platform.

The potential for both NSA and Holden is huge. It is believed American law enforcement agencies currently have approximately 80,000 Ford Crown Victoria sedans on fleet but the aging car is due to be phased out next year.

Most forces require V8-powered rear-wheel drive sedans and the Dodge Charger has been adopted by some police forces in America, but Bahr believes the Pontiac represents a safer and better-equipped option.

"If we were able to tap into that market the opportunities are huge for any manufacturer," Bahr says.

In addition to the L.A.P.D. Bahr says the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, as well as agencies in the UK and around the world, have shown interest in the prototypes.

[GRRRR8]

1st we race, then I decide if I am pulling over! lol I know you cant out run the radio, but a win is a win! lol

[Slizzo]

What is nice is that the Charger and now the G8 are making police stations around the country think about replacing their aging Crown Victorias (as good as they are, they've been around much too long, and without any real updates).


The G8 is a perfect compromise for a police officer, good acceleration, great handling, and good interior room for when you're taking that unruly passenger to lock-up.

[GM_Fan]

G8 Police cars would be a nice added boost for the model line.

[J Wikoff]

Literally two days ago, I was thinking... "with stimulus money coming to law enforcement, and all these unsold G8s sitting around, cops should start picking them up. I wonder if anyone has made cop packages for them."

[BSmith]

Definitely a better idea than NYPD's great idea of Nissan Altima hybrids.

[norm8332]

That massive bumper guard they use here will look pretty bad on a G8 with it's sloped hood/front.

The front will have to be raised somehow for driving over curbs, ditches.

The shifter would have to be moved to the steering column.

http://forum.grrrr8.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1028&stc=1&d=1235578697

[EC-Ryder]

^ I agree, definitely the G8 may not cut it as a street patrol unit B\C of the reasons mentioned above.

I have however seen Camaro highway patrol chase units, and I see no problema using the G8 where the need for speed outweighs the need to jump curbs.

Just a thought! LOL!

Cheers!

EC-Ryder

[p71]

That massive bumper guard they use here will look pretty bad on a G8 with it's sloped hood/front.

The front will have to be raised somehow for driving over curbs, ditches.

The shifter would have to be moved to the steering column.

http://forum.grrrr8.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1028&stc=1&d=1235578697

Would like to respectfully disagree and take a contra stance...

1) Push bumpers are available that are far less hideous than that.
2) Crown Vics, Impalas (NBS) and Camaros all have low noses and they all work great(ish) as cop cars
3) Camaro police package have floor shifters. So do the old pursuit Mustangs IIRC.

Sorry to nit pic but I am a bit of a cop car nut (hence the name)

[norm8332]

Would like to respectfully disagree and take a contra stance...

1) Push bumpers are available that are far less hideous than that.
2) Crown Vics, Impalas (NBS) and Camaros all have low noses and they all work great(ish) as cop cars
3) Camaro police package have floor shifters. So do the old pursuit Mustangs IIRC.

Sorry to nit pic but I am a bit of a cop car nut (hence the name)

I meant for fleet use concerning the shifter. Just makes it harder to fit the radios,controls and PC keyboard/screen or notebook and printer (I install them in police cars) up front while leaving the front passenger seat usable . That pointed nose will rip off at the first curb, I know I nearly ripped mine off on a parking space wheel stop that was lower than most curbs let alone the rough center median that police u-turn on sometimes.

I'm sure a better bumper could be designed.

I'm sure for a highway pursuit vehicle it would work very well.

[zosoboogie]

Speaking of law enforcement cars did any hear about this new car company coming out with car JUST for police cars. They will not sell to the public!!

http://www.carbonmotors.com/

Now we would see them for a mile away and there would be no confusion if the car is really a cop!!

[R.Penguin]

1st we race, then I decide if I am pulling over! lol I know you cant out run the radio, but a win is a win! lol
Right on!

And with tight budgets these days, they prolly would'nt mod 'em. :woohoo:

I win!

[Slizzo]

Speaking of law enforcement cars did any hear about this new car company coming out with car JUST for police cars. They will not sell to the public!!

http://www.carbonmotors.com/

Now we would see them for a mile away and there would be no confusion if the car is really a cop!!

I have seen that, it's always on Autoblog, and I say it's about damned time for something like that!


Oh, and I'll be damned if I couldn't buy a decommissioned one.. :nah:

[zosoboogie]

I have seen that, it's always on Autoblog, and I say it's about damned time for something like that!


Oh, and I'll be damned if I couldn't buy a decommissioned one.. :nah:

What I heard was when it gets decommissioned it goes back to the company and get recycled, broken down and "refurbished" then the department that had it before can get it back cheaper than a new one!!! I have a friend who works at one to the distribution centers for a supplier for Carbon motors and the law enforcements departments have to sign something that it will not make it to the public.

[wyldman]

1st we race, then i decide if i am pulling over! Lol i know you cant out run the radio, but a win is a win! Lol
rofl

['02 ws6]

^ I agree, definitely the G8 may not cut it as a street patrol unit B\C of the reasons mentioned above.

I have however seen Camaro highway patrol chase units, and I see no problema using the G8 where the need for speed outweighs the need to jump curbs.

Just a thought! LOL!

Cheers!

EC-Ryder

The Z28 and SSP fox body Mustangs were some pretty sweet Trooper cars. In Amarillo there's still a '99 ls1 z28 TXDPS car that patrols.

The G8 though I believe would be a good beat/patrol car, if something could be compromised structurally for the front guard and the console shifter.

They really need to dump the Crown Vics and go to a different platform. Chargers or G8s

[camoeto]

I really hope this never becomes a reality and the G8 never becomes a cop hauler. It's almost as bad as if the G8 would become a taxi. Residual values are already shit and this would make them even worst.

[95_9C1]

^^^ i feel the exact opposite.

If the G8 made it to fleet use, parts would become cheaper and the aftermarket would expand. That's a win-win for owners.

[SSD]

It's true, Carbon Motors won't sell to anyone who does not agree to return the car for recycling. I assume that includes some specified form of destruction if one gets totaled.

A G8 police package would be effective, IMHO. It would lay waste to a Carbon Motors car, durability excepted, according to all their specs. But I'd hate to see a strippo police interior in a G8. I do envision a lot of police administrators being afraid of the very high performance because of liability, even in light of the Charger's high performance success. Departments that could afford a G8 are normally pretty populated and have crowded roads, causing restrictive pursuit policies often and limiting space to really let one off the leash.

[nathan600r]

It's great that it would help to boost sales and provide better aftermarket and things like that, but I really do hate the idea of my car looking like an undercover cop car like the plain all white impalas.

[95_9C1]

I really do hate the idea of my car looking like an undercover cop car.

You don't like the idea of people getting out of your way?

I do.

[Slizzo]

A G8 police package would be effective, IMHO. It would lay waste to a Carbon Motors car, durability excepted, according to all their specs. But I'd hate to see a strippo police interior in a G8. I do envision a lot of police administrators being afraid of the very high performance because of liability, even in light of the Charger's high performance success. Departments that could afford a G8 are normally pretty populated and have crowded roads, causing restrictive pursuit policies often and limiting space to really let one off the leash.

The G8 is still cheaper than a Charger if I recall, so that point is largely moot I would say...

[-Ray-]

You don't like the idea of people getting out of your way?

I do.

LOL
I rented a Crown Vic in Salt Lake City a year or two ago. It was weird. I was on I15 and people were pulling over. Hilarious.
I guess a lot of the State cops in Utah use a white Crown Vic.

[SSD]

The G8 is still cheaper than a Charger if I recall, so that point is largely moot I would say...

Police packages are not as expensive, fleet sales and all. At least Ford and Chevy typically were less than in civilian pricing. Or it used to be anyway.

[EC-Ryder]

The CV (Crown Victoria) has been the workhorse for local, state, and federal law enforcement as well as fire departments, private security, etc, mainly because of the predictable handling, ease of maintenance, durability and reliability of the RWD.

I used to buy the Chevy Caprice for daily driving until GM stop making it and then switched over to FWD. Big mistake on GM’s part IMO, those few extra sells could help GM now, I noticed Ford is yet to take any taxpayer money, kudos to FORD.

The big problem with the CV is that the tail end has a tendency to wobble or starts to fly its tail at speeds above 120mph…The G8 has no such problema… :prostock:

GM could I suppose bring over the commodore for sell as a sedan for the nose concern with the shifter on the steering column so it could take the place of the old Caprice law enforcement vehicle and leave us the G8, but I imagine that would piss the Aussies off , that being they would have to sell it at a CV price or lower.

Just some thoughts!

Cheers!

[Crazy Paul]

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the folks at Melbourne's National Safety Agency put together the above LAPD-liveried Chevy-badged Commodore for the 2009 APCO Australasia Conference & Exhibition in Sydney. The expectation is the LAPD would be the first police force to buy the new vehicle, with more exports potentially going to Canada, the UK and the Middle East.



The cluttered, cockpit-style gadgets housed in current squad cars will be replaced by a minimalist design of one computer.

The concept car features a big touchscreen embedded in the passenger dash, linked to computer systems in the boot. It can host three digital cameras including one constantly scanning faces and the number plates of passing vehicles.

The car will also enable officers at police headquarters to remotely access a live feed of the view from the car during a pursuit.

Other features include:

AUTOMATIC, ink-free fingerprinting on a mobile digital device and voice-recognition technology.

A DURESS button to call for back-up more quickly.

NIGHT vision, moulded seats, rubber flooring and a PIN-activated safe for heavy weaponry.

A POWER-OFF device that can be activated by headquarters to slow or shut the car down.

[Crazy Paul]

More pics of the Pontiac version.

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http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/W21/pontiac_g8_lapd_proto.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/W21/504x_NSA-Chevrolet_Commodore_LAPD_2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/W21/LAPD_03.jpg

[dukeofpg]

Its a cop car, got cop lights , cop tires , cop seats, cop brakes, cop motor....

[Crazy Paul]

rQQFixaqeV0

[95_9C1]

the folks at Melbourne's National Safety Agency put together the above LAPD-liveried Chevy-badged Commodore...


does this mean it's going to happen?

[Crazy Paul]

does this mean it's going to happen?

You'd have to subscribe to the Fritz & Lutz sideshow to find out.

:wacko: