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Cape T/A
09-20-2013, 06:06 AM
Hello everyone! Ive been reading several different threads and all Im coming up with to reduce tire rub on the rear tires is rolling the fenders. Im wondering if there is any other way to fix this without doing that. I added 19x9.5 wheels with 275 tires earlier this year and only the drivers side rubs ever so slightly when I hit a dip/bump in the road. I would love to stop this before it eventually destroys my tire, but I am against fender rolling. Any tips or suggestions?





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ls3gxphouston
09-20-2013, 06:34 AM
, but I am against fender rolling. Any tips or suggestions?
Get wheels with a higher offset, mine are 19x9.5 ET50

SRG963
09-20-2013, 06:35 AM
Do you know the point of the rub? Is it the bracket or fender?

Can shave the bracket down if that's the issue.

ls3gxphouston
09-20-2013, 06:44 AM
Based on a 9.5 wheeI and 275 tire, if your offset is less than 45 it is most likely the fender, if its greater than 58 its the inside. An offset of 48-58 seems to be the sweet spot for no rub with a 275. Im betting his offset is on the lower side since higher offset wheels are more rare. Also, judging from the picture, it does look like the rear wheel sticks out enough to rub the fender.

Zodiac
09-20-2013, 01:40 PM
You could always do it like this vette...

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff310/zodiac080704/corvette-donk-car_zps7689711f.jpeg

Cape T/A
09-20-2013, 03:19 PM
its rubbing the very top of the fender opening where the lip is folded and spot welded and only rubs on the drivers side. I believe my wheels have either a 35 or 40 offset.

Cape T/A
09-20-2013, 03:22 PM
Get wheels with a higher offset, mine are 19x9.5 ET50

Amazing suggestion :lame:

#28
09-20-2013, 06:27 PM
Amazing suggestion :lame:

What did you really expect? That's a legitimate way to reduce your rubbing issue without rolling.

Why are you against fender rolling anyway?

EcoBrick Bob
09-20-2013, 07:16 PM
My tires rubbed at 2 o clock on drivers side and 10 o clock on pass. Drivers side was much more pronounced and cut the 275 Bridgestone. This only happened after a really hard launch on rough cement. I had driven over 2 K bringing my G8 back from FL with no incidents. My 08' in FL has 285's on 45 offset Beyern 19" x 9.5" Multis, only rubbing was at slow speeds when twisting thru a drive at an angle. Never the less... I ROLLED BOTH VEHICLES FENDERS.

That's the only sensible solution, other than replacing the wheels.

Or... I guess you could install air bags or spring spacers to raise the rear a couple inches.

Dexgto
09-21-2013, 11:17 AM
Amazing suggestion :lame:

What kind of magic are you expecting???

joemomma
09-21-2013, 11:59 AM
Amazing suggestion :lame:

Off topic, who manufactures your wheels?

Zodiac
09-21-2013, 01:15 PM
Off topic, who manufactures your wheels?

Looks like they are Avarus AV8.

joemomma
09-21-2013, 03:33 PM
Looks like they are Avarus AV8.

They look similar to VMR V710. Thx.

vert
09-21-2013, 04:35 PM
If it is barley rubbing you could trim the lip as long as you don't get into the spot weld. Best option would be to roll the lip. I rolled my fenders this summer and it is actually easy to do as long as you move slow and keep the paint warm. I just rented a roller from the net, cost me $75 bucks which included shipping.

STL_G8GT
09-21-2013, 04:51 PM
Roll them. Against rolling.... Why?

Frostopsy
09-22-2013, 03:53 PM
Amazing suggestion :lame:

I dunno what to tell you. You can roll the fenders one way or another (like just the problem area or the whole thing), buy new rims with a different offset, or jack up the suspension. That's the price you pay for running bigger tires and rims. Another reason I'm just running stock rims personally.

Cape T/A
09-22-2013, 06:10 PM
I am against it because only one local guy has a fender roller and I don't totally trust him with my car and he is about an hour drive away and I need this car every day, plus I'm afraid it will weaken the quarter panel if someone leans against it. I'm not an idiot and I don't expect a "magic" solution, but I was hoping someone with more experience with these cars could maybe know of a way to adjust the suspension. I know on a friends gto we put air bags in the rear springs to fix that, but considering these have a strut in the rear that's isn't going to work. You all expect me to sell my wheels I just got because of this issue? That just seemed like a ridiculous suggestion I'd rather mess up rolling the fender than waste more money on wheels. And yes, they are Avarius AV8 wheels.

Cape T/A
09-22-2013, 06:16 PM
If it is barley rubbing you could trim the lip as long as you don't get into the spot weld. Best option would be to roll the lip. I rolled my fenders this summer and it is actually easy to do as long as you move slow and keep the paint warm. I just rented a roller from the net, cost me $75 bucks which included shipping.
I have already taken an angle grinder to the inside of the lip and trimmed about an 1/8" off, but I didn't want to go any more than that.

Who did you rent the roller from?

joemomma
09-23-2013, 06:02 AM
You could buy this and DIY.... I was watching a guy roll his rear fenders yesterday. Didn't look that hard to do, just time consuming.

http://www.eastwood.com/fender-roller-car-kit-2-pc.html

2lazy4agoodname
09-23-2013, 11:57 AM
buy the roller. Its not that bad.

ls3gxphouston
09-23-2013, 12:03 PM
buy the roller. Its not that bad.

Or you can rent one for $50. Search google for "eastwood fender roller rental" and you will a few different places that will rent you the roller and a heat gun for $50. I have never personally rented one but I know others who have.

Steve GT
09-23-2013, 01:26 PM
You took an angle grinder to the fender but are against rolling them? I'd be more afraid of rust than rolling fenders. With that said, you can roll yours very lightly and it'll fix everything. Just heat them well and don't overdo it as you don't need much clearance. I had great results with the Eastwood roller.

If you are still against it then you can get narrower tires or higher offset wheels to eliminate your light rubbing.

EcoBrick Bob
09-23-2013, 06:50 PM
Have you thought of an electric tin snips and just cut out a big arc of fender??? Then you could run even wider wheels and tires!

MongosG8
09-23-2013, 10:45 PM
Definitely roll the fenders. Im in need to do mine as well.
I watched a friend do it to some ricers for some friends and it took him no more than a couple hours, some patience and it came out nice with the Eastwood roller.

I wanted to do mine this summer but he sold his roller. He purchased it.. made his money back and more doing several rolls for people. He then sells it for 1/2 the cost.
So this might be an idea for you. If yo lived close to me I would go in on one with you.

Cape T/A
09-24-2013, 01:57 PM
Well thanks for the suggestions guys, maybe renting a roller is my best option, that I'm the only one to blame!

Tommy G
12-02-2013, 11:59 AM
If you can find a local machine shop, you can have the wheels milled. About 2 or 3 mm from the back of the mounting surface should do it. Make sure that the wheels can be milled first, as some of the strength of the wheel can be compromised. Perhaps the wheel manufacturer will know.

MAC the KNIFE
12-02-2013, 07:34 PM
since an old thread was bumped, i'll go ahead and chime in here too. i rolled my passenger side with the machine and, well, it sort of bent the exterior panel inward. unhappy with the result, i took a baseball bat and beat the hell out of the driver side fender. it looks perfect. just be sure to keep the fender hot. i got one little paint crack.

also, i still rub the rear bumper mounting brackets. i just dont want to cut or grind on these brackets. who has used the spring spacers?

gr8lover
12-02-2013, 08:19 PM
I'm not an idiot and I don't expect a "magic" solution, ............ You all expect me to sell my wheels I just got because of this issue? ....................That just seemed like a ridiculous suggestion I'd rather mess up rolling the fender than waste more money on wheels................. And yes, .......................they are Avarius AV8 wheels.

Wow.... I think all were good suggestions.... no need to raz on someone who just threw that up as a viable possibility.... and we are not dumb either.... but it is a very viable option.... not the most cost effective option, but still an option..... I could say buy coilovers and then adjust the car to whatever height you want, but that probably is an "amazing" suggestion also, so I wont suggest it....

imajeenyas
12-03-2013, 06:33 AM
I bought an Eastwood roller and a heat gun. I loan them to friends locally all the time, and ship it out ocassionally just for the price of shipping (and the hope it comes back and in good shape)

mtocrs1
12-27-2013, 07:38 AM
I rolled mine and it really isn't hard if you take the time. I can't imagine why your worried about a slight fender roll if you have already taken a grinder to the lip....
Just take your time and only roll the area of the fender that needs it.
I did bulge my fender a bit but I am the only one that would ever know. This happened because I rolled the whole fender lip and tried rolling the whole thing flat. I got a bit carried away.


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shane
12-27-2013, 04:41 PM
I rolled mine myself Nathan, used a heat gun and it was winter in a cold garage and first fender went great but 2nd one cracked a small amount in a few spots.

I would wait till summer and try rolling them and just take your time.

lku087302
01-06-2014, 01:23 PM
Maybe a stupid question but couldnt you just get a stiffer spring rate for as little as OP is rubbing?