Power Motive brake bleeder/ master cylinder

[conipc]

Have used these before (they pressurize brake system for fastest most complete one-man bleeding). Does anyone know the right kit or adapter for the G8? The late GM model doesn't fit the GTO so it might not fit our master cylinder....

[wreckwriter]

getting ready for your lines too I see :) I went went the Russell Speed Bleeders. Not as easy as the full systems but alot easier than the old way.

[conipc]

Speed Bleeders are still a PITA especially when doing the whole system. You gotta still run back to the pedal on a regular basis. Pressure (not vacuum) is the best way overall; hooks up to the master cyl and sends 10-15 psi fluid out....The Motive unit is around $55.

[wreckwriter]

Speed Bleeders are still a PITA especially when doing the whole system. You gotta still run back to the pedal on a regular basis. Pressure (not vacuum) is the best way overall; hooks up to the master cyl and sends 10-15 psi fluid out....The Motive unit is around $55.

yea, I know. Better than open/close though.

If you find the right kit please post the info.

[Chewy]

Please!

http://www.motiveproducts.com/

Is it the same as a Goat? If someone had a goat and a G8 they could let us know. It takes an 1105 adapter.

I am going to get one for my P/U truck too.

Chris

[Greg@PacePerformance]

I just checked the GM part number for the 04-06 GTO bleeder valve. It is the same part number as the G8.
I hope that helps you out.
Size says M28.37 x 9.86 x 8

Edit!--- I looked at the bleeder valve not the master cylinder cap. I guess I should have looked how the kit worked :p Sorry!!!!
-Greg

[Chewy]

I just checked the GM part number for the 04-06 GTO bleeder valve. It is the same part number as the G8.
I hope that helps you out.
Size says M28.37 x 9.86 x 8

-Greg

How about the part number for the reservoir cap? If it's the same then the same adapter will work! :)

Thanks Greg!

[conipc]

The 1105 is for reservoirs that have rectangular caps..I think the 3 prong Ford is right, but I wrote to them to find out...

[Chewy]

The 1105 is for reservoirs that have rectangular caps..I think the 3 prong Ford is right, but I wrote to them to find out...

That'd be GREAT if the 3 prong works! That's what my truck has. I guess I'll go home and see if one fits the other then! :woohoo:

[conipc]

That might be the conclusive answer--let us know!!

[rclinton]

I used the motive bleeder system in conjunction with the russell speed bleeders on my C3 vette. For those who have had to bleed a C3 you can understand, it makes for a very easy one man operation.

[conipc]

Let's find a match on caps (particularly that Ford one). Motive says they'll set up a coupon for 10% off for forum members to use

[Greg@PacePerformance]

How about the part number for the reservoir cap? If it's the same then the same adapter will work! :)

Thanks Greg!

Sorry guys. The cap and the reservoir are G8 only.
Good luck with the search.

[Chewy]

F'ing got busy last night planning my wedding and forgot to look!

I WILL look tonight. It's in my calendar to do so. lol

IF they don't have one I'm sure the universal one will work.

Chris

[conipc]

Probably not a good enough excuse:windy:


the universal is a PITA as you have to clamp it down, rather than simply screw on...

[Chewy]

Ok I was able to put the G8's brake filler cap on my 1998 F150. 3 prong and it went right on. If memory serves that makes it an 1107. Not 100% sure. Would have to look again.

[conipc]

Outstanding. I'll advise the contact at Motive!
Anybody else have a Ford to compare the m/c caps, particularly later years?

Yes it would be an 1107. I asked when the coupon would be ready :)

[wreckwriter]

Is this confirmed as for sure?

Also, assuming the adapter is 1107 what would one need to buy if one didn't have any of it? Would Bleeder 0107 include the adapter?

[conipc]

So far only confirmed by 4gasem above. The 107 comes with the Ford piece included. I ordered and it should be here Thurs...

[wreckwriter]

So far only confirmed by 4gasem above. The 107 comes with the Ford piece included. I ordered and it should be here Thurs...

OK, cool. Thanks. Not that I don't trust Chris' confirmation, just that he wasn't confirming by using the actual kit.

[wreckwriter]

These things work by bleeding one wheel at a time, right? I don't have the equipment to raise the whole car so will have to do fronts then rears (or vice-versa). Jack up, pull wheels, change lines, bleed, repeat for other end of car. That will work using this system, yes?

[Chewy]

These things work by bleeding one wheel at a time, right? I don't have the equipment to raise the whole car so will have to do fronts then rears (or vice-versa). Jack up, pull wheels, change lines, bleed, repeat for other end of car. That will work using this system, yes?

Start with the one furthest away from the bleeder or the right rear in this case and then the next furthest and so on...

I can't and won't tell you guys that I am 100% sure this will fit. I know the cap went on just like the stock unit. :)

Let us know how it goes.

What about the 10% off deal?

Chris

[conipc]

I'll post the fitment when mine comes on Thursday. The company will post the coupon when I assure them it fits--rightly, they don't want a huge bunch of returns because we weren't sure of the fit.
Theoretically, you don't have to lift the car at all if you can get to the lines; you can get to all the bleeders without lifting. However, one corner at a time for change and then bleed will work fine.
Have flare wrenches, as even in this dry climate my hardline connectors have some rust.

[conipc]

The 1107 adapter with the 107 kit is an exact fit for the G8 master cylinder.
Here's the coupon:

> http://store.motiveproducts.com/?Coupon=G8forum
:woohoo:

[dklau33]

Sweet. I already have the 0107 bleeder kit from my 350Z track car. Glad it works on my GT too! One less thing to buy when I install a front BBK.

[wreckwriter]

Got mine ordered. First guy to get all the stuff and actually do the line change please post any tips!

[wreckwriter]

Since this Ford bleeder fits I'm thinking maybe a nice billet brake fluid cap might exist that would also fit? Anyone know which models and years of Ford this is applicable to?

[Chewy]

Since this Ford bleeder fits I'm thinking maybe a nice billet brake fluid cap might exist that would also fit? Anyone know which models and years of Ford this is applicable to?

I would suspect 1997, 98, and 99 F-150 for sure... After that I'm not sure.

Chris

[wreckwriter]

Something like this maybe:

https://www.wildponymotorsports.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=722&idcategory=296

[99-LS1-SS]

Where do you get brake lines from?

[wreckwriter]

Pace.

[99-LS1-SS]

Thanks Tom.

[Chewy]

I just ordered my bleeder... I am going to do my truck... I am ashamed to say that I have NEVER done it. I will suck out the reservoir with my Mity-Vac brake bleeder and then fill with new. That way I have ALL new going out right away.

So ashamed...

[wreckwriter]

So, using this Motive bleeder system, what keeps it from overfilling the master cylinder?

[Chewy]

You may overfill it but use a turkey baster or something and suck some out.

Easy peasy lemon squeazy...

[wreckwriter]

What pressure should be used? 15 psi?

[wreckwriter]

I'm hoping/guessing the pressure isn't critical? Motive instructions say follow car manf instructions as to pressure, AllData say follow bleeder manf. instructions..... Going with 15 psi unless I hear different real soon.

[RWD-V8]

Do it work on the GXP clutch slave cylinder?

[wreckwriter]

Anyone know the right pressure?

[wreckwriter]

Answer from Motive is 15, don't exceed 20.

[BigV8]

Just putting this out there, but I thought I read somewhere that some newer cars with ABS there was a procedure for bleeding with a device (brain fart) so that everything is bled. Anyone hear this?

[wreckwriter]

Yea, requires a Tech II

[conipc]

Well, the G8 does not need anything special to use the bleeder pump. I've done it twice now and all bubbles clear, etc.

[Kermit]

I'm going to bring this thread back to life for a moment if I may. :)
Wanting to change my disk brakes and while I'm doing that, going to swap out the rubber lines with SS.
I'm looking for a definitive answer to which kit will work on our car's.

Conipc, have you had any issues since you posted your comment on the correct adapter?

The 1107 adapter with the 107 kit is an exact fit for the G8 master cylinder.
Here's the coupon:

> http://store.motiveproducts.com/?Coupon=G8forum
:woohoo:
What about you two, wreckwriter and 4GASEM. Anything new to add? Did you get what he said to get and everything work out fine?

Some buddies on a GTO forum said that they heard a couple horror stories of guys accidentally over-pressurizing and blowing up their brake system. If I stay at 15psi, I should be good to go right?

[Chewy]

Believe it or not, I've not used mine yet... lol I have new pads and new rotors for up front and plan to work on it in the next week or so, weather providing... I need to get my trucks brakes sorted too.

I know Tom used his.

Chris

[conipc]

I have used the bleeder at least once since the original post with no leakage or any other problem. It still is the easy way. just be sure to keep it and the master cyl. filled but not overfilled, and use the usual process of bleeding from the most distant wheel first. I can't imagine blowing up the system, but there is no need to exceed the recommended pressure--it gets the fluid out fast enough.

[wreckwriter]

I'm going to bring this thread back to life for a moment if I may. :)
Wanting to change my disk brakes and while I'm doing that, going to swap out the rubber lines with SS.
I'm looking for a definitive answer to which kit will work on our car's.

Conipc, have you had any issues since you posted your comment on the correct adapter?

What about you two, wreckwriter and 4GASEM. Anything new to add? Did you get what he said to get and everything work out fine?

Some buddies on a GTO forum said that they heard a couple horror stories of guys accidentally over-pressurizing and blowing up their brake system. If I stay at 15psi, I should be good to go right?

Yes, the info is accurate.

[Kermit]

Okay, I was about to purchase this today but then I realized that I should not need the Ford Three Prong Adapter 1107 if I just get the Ford Three Prong Bleeder 0107 Right? I'm thinking the adapter 1107 is the same hose and cap as the 0107 bleeder.
Any wisdom on this guys?

[BlackGT5]

Okay, I was about to purchase this today but then I realized that I should not need the Ford Three Prong Adapter 1107 if I just get the Ford Three Prong Bleeder 0107 Right? I'm thinking the adapter 1107 is the same hose and cap as the 0107 bleeder.
Any wisdom on this guys?

Correct. The 1107 adapter is included in the 0107 bleeder.

[MIEngineer]

Coupon still works. The bleeders are also for sale on ebay for the same price roughly including the 10% discount if the coupon doesn't work...

[Eidolon]

So with this system to pressurize the master cylinder, is there still a use for the Russell Speed Bleeders? Or do they become pretty much unnecessary?

[Sephiroth]

So with this system to pressurize the master cylinder, is there still a use for the Russell Speed Bleeders? Or do they become pretty much unnecessary?

They're useless if you're using the motive product. Pressurize to ~ 20psi, and open the flood gates on the valve until it flows clean, close valve and move to the next caliper. I've had perfect bleeds on every car I've used my motive bleeder on. Except for some funky Master cylinder bleeding on my S4

Just ordered mine, with the discount code, it's basicly free shipping. Thanks !