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Mike P
02-08-2009, 05:49 PM
Check out post number 11

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/pontiac-g8-2008-2009/1052709-no-traction.html



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wreckwriter
02-08-2009, 06:02 PM
Manual. He needs to practice launches I expect.
bwooten492
02-08-2009, 09:02 PM
Judging from his other car I'm sure he can drive, but he just needs to learn the car. My first pass I ran a 14.4, then the next a 13.7. You just have to get a feel for the car.
Mike P
02-08-2009, 10:44 PM
Judging from his other car I'm sure he can drive, but he just needs to learn the car. My first pass I ran a 14.4, then the next a 13.7. You just have to get a feel for the car.


Yep, I hear you & totally agree. :)



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-Ray-
02-09-2009, 04:03 AM
Not a Camaro, so I'll move it. :)
wreckwriter
02-09-2009, 04:49 AM
I'm sure once he gets used to it the times will go down by quite a bit.
jbradsh1
02-09-2009, 05:16 AM
You just have to get a feel for the car.

It's true, you have to feeeeeel the force, or your history (you lost)!
syP
02-09-2009, 08:55 PM
Judging from his other car I'm sure he can drive, but he just needs to learn the car. My first pass I ran a 14.4, then the next a 13.7. You just have to get a feel for the car.

judging by his videos.. seems that his TA is automatic.
Slizzo
02-10-2009, 01:12 PM
Methinks he's just dumping the clutch? :poof: (god I hope not!)
Grantski Barney
02-10-2009, 02:55 PM
No, he said he was feathering.

I know all about traction problems, I can spin my 35" BFG All Terrains on the freeway at 65 mph. But then again, I have over 600 lb-ft of torque and decent gearing.
'02 ws6
02-23-2009, 05:52 AM
Yea he admitted the times were due to !driver mod, but the 245 tire out back doesn't help matters.
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99-LS1-SS
02-23-2009, 06:27 AM
There are a lot of variables to consider here. Manual transmissions are a little tougher to launch. Track prep can play a major role in off the line grip. The gearing of the GXP is a lot lower than the automatic GT. The GXP has a little more horsepower than the GT. He hasn't had his car long and he probably just needs to get a little more comfortable with it.

I'm not making excuses for him because if you race someone and any of the above issues gets you, you still lose.

I'm really looking forward to seeing what I can do with this car. I hope to have some stock runs in by early April. That should be enough time for me to get a feel for the clutch and traction.
johnh
02-23-2009, 07:47 AM
Not only are manual's tough to launch, but if you're not experienced you can lose lots of time on the shifts too...

My 04 GTO was a manual, never got any times except in the first month (14.1 best) with it, but I couldn't shift worth anything. Once I got used to just easing in the clutch and faster shifting, it had to be worth at least a few tenths. Launching it with the IRS was "interesting"...
JerzeyGT
02-23-2009, 09:48 AM
MY first run with my GT was 14.7 because I shifted it into manual by mistake... oops lol
Mr. Bueno
10-17-2009, 09:17 PM
Methinks he's just dumping the clutch? :poof: (god I hope not!)

Why not Slizzo?

Mr. B
99-LS1-SS
10-18-2009, 05:19 AM
Because you Pontiac saw fit to equip the GXP with 415 horsepower and bicycle tires. Dumping the clutch just causes LONG smokey burnouts. If anyone would ever make a 19" drag radial then maybe this technique would be beneficial.
Slizzo
10-18-2009, 09:20 AM
Because you Pontiac saw fit to equip the GXP with 415 horsepower and bicycle tires. Dumping the clutch just causes LONG smokey burnouts. If anyone would ever make a 19" drag radial then maybe this technique would be beneficial.


^^^ This. While I know the TR6060 is quite strong, the drive shaft (it being a 2 piece job) I would suspect would be a major weak point.


But as stated above, that would really only be a problem if he had traction anyway. A 245 cross section on a 19" rim does not make for a terribly large contact patch with the road. He had to have had quite a bit of wheelspin.
elilozano28
10-18-2009, 11:14 AM
manual gxp are stronger but that why i got mine automatic, im from the same area of that guy that hit 14.1. i hit a 13.4 stock with 245's and the weather was hot about 98 degree. now with a tune and cai im hitting a 12.9 and peeling a little off the line and going to 2nd and 3rd also.
Slizzo
10-18-2009, 12:21 PM
manual gxp are stronger but that why i got mine automatic, im from the same area of that guy that hit 14.1. i hit a 13.4 stock with 245's and the weather was hot about 98 degree. now with a tune and cai im hitting a 12.9 and peeling a little off the line and going to 2nd and 3rd also.

All GXPs have the same LS3. Only difference between the Auto and Stick is the rear gears. 3.70s on the Manual and 3.27s on the auto.


I'm one of the weird ones and would rather have the auto.
It's A G8!
10-18-2009, 05:44 PM
^^^^ The auto's have less power.
GeorgeInNePa
10-18-2009, 06:42 PM
^^^^ The auto's have less power.

All GXPs, every one of them, have the same LS3, the same horsepower, and the same torque.

The Camaro has differences between the M6 and the A6, the GXP doesn't.
elilozano28
10-18-2009, 08:11 PM
:flame:
^^^^ The auto's have less power.

anyways i think my auto gxp is faster than manual cause where i live theres about 5 gxp manual and there all hitting 14's
Slizzo
10-19-2009, 07:28 AM
Auto is much easier to launch and drive consistently.

And George is correct, every blessed GXP on this planet has the same exact LS3 in it, no matter if it is Auto or Manual.



It's the Camaro that is different. L99 (Auto) with AFM has 400HP, LS3 (Manual) has 426HP. Remember, this is CAMARO ONLY.
'02 ws6
10-19-2009, 08:57 AM
There's more parasitic loss through the Auto trans, that's what he was meaning I would imagine.
GeorgeInNePa
10-19-2009, 01:22 PM
There's more parasitic loss through the Auto trans, that's what he was meaning I would imagine.

I hate having to guess.

It's a message forum, the written word must convey your entire meaning. There are no facial expressions or gestures or vocal inflections to carry your meaning across.

People need to learn to express their entire meaning with words.