Snapped Fitting on Intake! (HELP)

[jimmyp3353]

Well I was doing my cam swap and I was prying on a bolt with my free hand on the engine for leverage when, snap.

The below pucture is looking down on the drivers side where the intake manifold and TB meet. As you can see I snapped the fitting right off the intake manifold.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x305/jimmyp3353/GetAttachment2-7.jpg

the manifold with the fitting snapped off.


http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x305/jimmyp3353/GetAttachment1-7.jpg

the hose with the piece coming out of the intake manifold still in it

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x305/jimmyp3353/GetAttachment12.jpg

where the hose comes from.

So how bad did I fuck up. Super glue? epoxy? new intake manifold?

[LDM]

It looks like that's the EVAP purge connection. I have no experience doing so, but maybe you'd be able to glue it back on somehow. If it were me I'd probably replace the manifold. The part number for a new manifold is 12602477 if you decide to go that route.

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You can get a replacement hose, did you get the other peice out. Since it just a vent hose, I bet you could get by gluing it for now.

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It looks like that's the EVAP purge connection. I have no experience doing so, but maybe you'd be able to glue it back on somehow. If it were me I'd probably replace the manifold. The part number for a new manifold is 12602477 if you decide to go that route.

One for sale here
http://www.grrrr8.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=36034

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Worst case, I bet you could tap it and place a brass nipple in its place and run a rubber hose in its place.

[jimmyp3353]

I still havent taken the piece out of the hose. I will try super glueing it in the mean time. Thanks for the replies.

[LDM]

One for sale here
http://www.grrrr8.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=36034

I saw that but the seller is in Canada so unless the OP is too, shipping could be a pain. You can find a brandy new one on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACDelco-12602477-Intake-Manifold-/350750093959) for less than $250 shipped.

[LDM]

I still havent taken the piece out of the hose. I will try super glueing it in the mean time. Thanks for the replies.

I'd try that first and see how secure the fitting feels. It's not a high pressure fitting, if anything it's under a vacuum.

[Crazy8]

I broke mine when we were doing my Maggie install. It breaks very easy and I broke it even after Daniel told me to be careful cause they break easy :)

Greg at Pace can sell you the replacement part. It's not expensive.

[jimmyp3353]

I broke mine when we were doing my Maggie install. It breaks very easy and I broke it even after Daniel told me to be careful cause they break easy :)

Greg at Pace can sell you the replacement part. It's not expensive.

What exactly is the replacement part?

[Crazy8]

I think it's called the Evap purge solenoid. PM Greg, he'll tell you.

Here is what I bought. I think you are just looking for #1. It's been a while, but I think it was around $30. The other 2 part numbers, I think, were the hoses that connect to it, but it was definitely one of these three things (sorry I can't be more specific).

#1 - 12597567
#2 - 92203255
#5 - 12607115

http://www.tonkinonlineparts.com/images/parts/gm/fullsize/101221HE03A201.JPG

PM Greg, he'll tell you.

[Crazy8]

You may actually need one of the hoses, if you didn't break the Evap solenoid, but just the connector.

[LDM]

Unless I'm misinterpreting his tiny photos, he broke the fitting off the intake manifold itself. This:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/lenmartin23/G8/DSC_4983.jpg

[Greg@PacePerformance]

I can't tell in the photos either if he broke the evap solenoid or the intake manifold as seen above.

[Crazy8]

Edit: I can't really tell either.

[LDM]

"As you can see I snapped the fitting right off the intake manifold."

[LDM]

Edit: I can't really tell either.

I added the picture to go with your part numbers above. I'm pretty sure none of those parts are what broke on him though.

[jimmyp3353]

The picture LDM posted is exactly correct. I snapped the fitting right off the manifold.

[hivoltagedriver]

Figure out a way to plug the hole in the intake with some sort of epoxy, and delete the evap crap all together. Cap it at the firewall, and just remove the lines and solenoid. You will have to turn off the code in the tune, but it sounds like you will be tuning anyways. I've been running without mine for over a year, and ran my GTO without it for a couple of years. Also deleted it from a buddies G8 with no problems. Cleans up the top of the motor some, and may help you avoid idling problems with a cam.

[thrustie]

I have one for sale, yes located in Canada; however, I have sold international without any hassles for many years. If you need it lmk. In mint condition, just installed a maggie and figured no sense hanging onto it.

[Crazy Paul]

Drill and tap the broken pad on the side of the intake manifold.....1/8NPT
Screw in a 1/8NPT to 8mm tube stem adapter, available from Pneumatics suppliers like Parker,SMC, Norgren etc.

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[jimmyp3353]

Drill and tap the broken pad on the side of the intake manifold.....1/8NPT
Screw in a 1/8NPT to 8mm tube stem adapter, available from Pneumatics suppliers like Parker,SMC, Norgren etc.

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thanks man, appreciate it.

[TailG8er]

3M makes a great 2 -part fast setting adhesive that I use all the time. Scuff the area around the break with 80 or 120 grit sandpaper or use an exacto knife to score the plastic making criss cross lines to give the adhesive additional bite. I like to use super glue to get it in place and then when that is dry use the 2 - part stuff around the break. Very strong fix.

[Semperfire]

This thread is one of the reasons I enjoy this community so much, the OP is takes on the cam swap and has a problem that I know would have freaked me out having never done a swap before and even with the unforeseen issue coming up you guys that are responding are helping in ways that makes me more than confident when the time comes to tackle things I would have previously paid to have done.

I was freaked out when I snapped the cradle bolt on my rear end project swapping the diff and tons of other stuff with the suspension but I got the same type of feedback and was able to finish it up confidently knowing I was not the first to have the problem.

Jimmy- I hope it gets sorted out and you enjoy the new power.

[Crazy Paul]

Ideally you want the stem diameter (A) to be 8mm but 5/16" OD is close enough and probably easier to find.
(B) thread 1/8"NPT is the perfect size.
Brass would be the best material to go with.

Swagelok have a range of tube adapters.
SS-5-TA-1-2 would be stainless steel, 5/16" diam male stem, 1/8"NPT male thread.
if you either drop the SS entirely or change SS to B.....you should get brass material instead.

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[jimmyp3353]

ideally you want the stem diameter (a) to be 8mm but 5/16" od is close enough and probably easier to find.
(b) thread 1/8"npt is the perfect size.
Brass would be the best material to go with.

Swagelok have a range of tube adapters.
Ss-5-ta-1-2 would be stainless steel, 5/16" diam male stem, 1/8"npt male thread.
If you either drop the ss entirely or change ss to b.....you should get brass material instead.

18432

really appreciate it, i will try this.

[kevinm0131]

CP saves the day....AGAIN!
I want to make an official board request to play the first 6 seconds of this every time Paul posts: http://youtu.be/BdIev12fCPs

[G8-4-Speed]

The best fix is to get a soldering iron and black zip. "Plastic-weld" it, works great. Glue will not hold...

[TailG8er]

The best fix is to get a soldering iron and black zip. "Plastic-weld" it, works great. Glue will not hold...

The 2-part stuff from 3M will hold. I use it alot and it is very strong stuff and sets in minutes.

[gtomanohio]

Just noticed , looking at intake on right side, there was a plastic nipple sticking out, for what i would assume is a vacuum line and it plums to other side to a sensor? Anyway it broke off intake, can i tap hole and put a brass fitting in with a barbed end to hook hard plastic line to it without changing the whole intake manifold? Anybody run into this problem.....

[Crazy Paul]

Thread: How bad did I screw up?
http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=36157

[gtomanohio]

Yea thats it, broke off flush, i think i could use two part (lord fuser epoxy) or just use brass fitting, close one thanks paul again,again and again...... Your awesome

[Chewy]

OK, seeing that this could be an ongoing issue, I've merged a couple of threads, changed the title so it jumps out at you a little more, and made it a sticky. I know if it were me, I'd want to find this thread IMMEDIATELY. ;)

[gtomanohio]

Great, everyone i used the brass fitting and it worked great.. Had a extra radiator overflow line with the bend and it worked great. One side has the smaller end and it fit perfectly into sensor side....