Russell Brake Lines

[conipc]

Their catalog shows a p/n for stainless lines for the G8 but can't find them for sale anywhere....will try Pace by email. Anybody have inside info?

[Chewy]

Their catalog shows a p/n for stainless lines for the G8 but can't find them for sale anywhere....will try Pace by email. Anybody have inside info?

Did you call Russel and ask them who they recommend to buy them from?

If Greg can get Russel I'm sure he can order them for you. Others will do the same. You'll just have to wait.

Chris

[conipc]

Russell has a list of vendors on their site, but none of those folks have the lines listed yet...

[Chewy]

Russell has a list of vendors on their site, but none of those folks have the lines listed yet...

Call them and have them order them for you. If they're dealers and Russell is making them then any one of them should be able to hook you up!

Chris

[wreckwriter]

Anyone have a clue what they'll cost? Install should be simple except for the huge bleed job....

[Chewy]

Anyone have a clue what they'll cost? Install should be simple except for the huge bleed job....

You or the car?

LOL

[wreckwriter]

You or the car?

LOL

Both.

[wreckwriter]

russel never replied to my email asking where we can get these.

[conipc]

Neither did Pace...

[wreckwriter]

Neither did Maryland Speed (listed as a dealer on the other board's thread about this).

[conipc]

AJUSA lists them at 155.78, though they didn't say specifically that they had them..

[GRRRR8]

Is this a specific # for our cars? Has anybody tried Summit/Jegs?

[wreckwriter]

Is this a specific # for our cars? Has anybody tried Summit/Jegs?

http://www.russellperformance.com/mc/brake_hoses/hoses_domestic.shtml

[GRRRR8]

Thanks Tom.

[wreckwriter]

Still can't find these :(

[conipc]

Greg @ Pace wrote to say he didn't have an ETA for them.....guess we gotta wait...

[Greg@PacePerformance]

I will try and give Russell a call today and get an ETA and pricing. It seems there is good interest in these lines so I am sure I can do some special sale pricing when they become available.

-Greg

[wreckwriter]

Cool. thanks Greg!

[wreckwriter]

these lines will make a huge difference in pedal feel, Bleed will be a bitch though I expect.

[wreckwriter]

btw- Just found out that the Russell Speed Bleeder 639560 fits the G8, front and rear. They come in sets of 2 so you need 2 sets. They're available all over the place.

This is a one-man brake bleeder, will make life easier if we ever get the lines!

[conipc]

Got this re the lines from Dennis @ Russell:

I am still hoping that either Wretched Motorsports or Maryland Speed will get these components to you guys. They will need to enter the Russell P/N in their system and order them through whichever WD they use.

If any of you are having problems sourcing the said product after trying the above supporting vendors, contact me at dkim at edlebrock . com.

[wreckwriter]

Yea, I got similar. greg@pace is supposed to call Russell today. He'll be our best price I'm sure.

[Greg@PacePerformance]

I just contacted Russell and they have them in stock. I am working on pricing now, and will update our pricing soon.
-Greg

[wreckwriter]

:)

[Greg@PacePerformance]

Russell Stainless G8 Hose Kit (http://PacePerformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=251016) - 119.95

We have the speed bleeders in stock. They are not marked down but we can also discount them if you order the brake line kit also.

Russell has them in stock so when we receive orders we will get them ordered ASAP.
Kit includes 4 hoses and will also fit 2009 cars even though Russell only lists them for 2008.
-Greg

[wreckwriter]

Ordered! Thanks Greg!

[Dennis]

Is this a specific # for our cars?
Yes, the Russell hose assemblies are specific for the G8 GT.

Thank you all for the interest in the Russell brake hose assemblies for the G8 GT. It looks like Greg has taken care of the sourcing issue for the said product.

Dennis

wreckwriter,
That is a very fair price and I think it was a wise choice to go with the sponsor on this order.

[wreckwriter]

Yes, the Russell hose assemblies are specific to the G8 GT.

Thank you all for the interest in the Russell brake hose assemblies for the G8 GT. It looks like Greg has taken care of the sourcing issue for the said product.

Dennis

Welcome to the board Dennis!

[Chewy]

Yes, the Russell hose assemblies are specific for the G8 GT.

Thank you all for the interest in the Russell brake hose assemblies for the G8 GT. It looks like Greg has taken care of the sourcing issue for the said product.

Dennis

wreckwriter,
That is a very fair price and I think it was a wise choice to go with the sponsor on this order.

Thank you! I take that you are some how affiliated with Russell.:)

[Dennis]

Thank you for the welcome.
Yes, I am a project engineer for Russell and Edelbrock shock division here in Torrance, CA. I am not involved in sales, but I enjoy helping out fellow motorists whenever I can.

I have some other suspension related data I will post later on as time allows.

Till next time,
Dennis

[wreckwriter]

Thank you for the welcome.
Yes, I am a project engineer for Russell and Edelbrock shock division here in Torrance, CA. I am not involved in sales, but I enjoy helping out fellow motorists whenever I can.

I have some other suspension related data I will post later on as time allows.

Till next time,
Dennis

while you're here........ When installing the speed bleeders, any sealant or teflon tape required?

[Greg@PacePerformance]

Wreck,
Sealant is already on the threads of the speedbleeders, so it should be just an install and go.
-Greg

[wreckwriter]

Cool. thanks Greg!

[wreckwriter]

Anyone know what size wrench the Russell speed bleeders use?

[Greg@PacePerformance]

3/8" ;)
Want to be ready to you?

[GRRRR8]

Greg is the man! Now wheres my hoses! lol

[wreckwriter]

3/8" ;)
Want to be ready to you?

Need to make sure I have a line wrench the right size :)

[conipc]

Speaking of which, guys, what's the best procedure: replace one line at a time then bleed it, or do 'em all? I would think one at a time, so as not to let the system run dry....

[GRRRR8]

1 at a time then bleed. If you keep the fluid full bleeding will be a breeze.

[conipc]

Bueno...I'll be using the Motive Power pressure bleeder---breeze is right.

[SRG963]

How much should/does the local brake shops charge for changing out the brake lines?

[GRRRR8]

I would say 175-250 depending on their labor rate would be fair including the bleed. Make sure they dont get fluid everywhere so it doesnt eat the paint off of suspension components.

[SRG963]

I would say 175-250 depending on their labor rate would be fair including the bleed. Make sure they dont get fluid everywhere so it doesnt eat the paint off of suspension components.

Cool, thanks for the info.

[Dennis]

Need to make sure I have a line wrench the right size
Wreckwriter, The speed bleeders seem to be made of medium carbon steel, and are not prone to rounding, given the fact one uses reasonable torque to tighten and loosen them. The tube nuts on the hard tubes, on the other hand, are very prone to rounding. Metric line wrenches are recommended.


Speaking of which, guys, what's the best procedure: replace one line at a time then bleed it, or do 'em all? I would think one at a time, so as not to let the system run dry....
I recommend that you disconnect the chassis side first and cap the end with a rubber cap. This limits the fluid loss as you are installing the new hose assembly. Make sure to remove the rubber cap when installing the new hose assembly.

If you have other questions, shoot away...

[wreckwriter]

Wreckwriter, The speed bleeders seem to be made of medium carbon steel, and are not prone to rounding, given the fact one uses reasonable torque to tighten and loosen them. The tube nuts on the hard tubes, on the other hand, are very prone to rounding. Metric line wrenches are recommended.

What size(s)?

[conipc]

I believe 10mm. Give 'em a shot of liquid wrench and let 'em sit a while before work....

[Dennis]

I am not sure about the size as it has been a while. It is either 10mm as mentioned or 12mm. A slight impact to the wrench in the loosening direction helped to loosen stubborn fasteners for us in most cases.

Also when using the speed bleeders or any other bleeders for that matter, orient the drain tube above the bleeder. This ensures that air bubbles rise away from the bleeder, minimizing any chances of air being sucked back in.

Dennis

[Chewy]

Thank you for the welcome.
Yes, I am a project engineer for Russell and Edelbrock shock division here in Torrance, CA.


Awesome! I have Edelbrock shocks on my F150 and will soon have Russell lines on my G8. (perhaps my truck too)

Chris

[Greg@PacePerformance]

Greg is the man! Now wheres my hoses! lol

Shipping today! I am hoping Russell just didn't change the description on the label. It says DOT Brake hose kit 97-99 Impala, rear disc. but the part number is what is listed on the Russell website.
-Greg

[Dennis]

Awesome! I have Edelbrock shocks on my F150 and will soon have Russell lines on my G8. (perhaps my truck too)
Thank you for your support. It is greatly appreciated.

Shipping today! I am hoping Russell just didn't change the description on the label. It says DOT Brake hose kit 97-99 Impala, rear disc. but the part number is what is listed on the Russell website.
-Greg
I am looking into that. If there are any problems or questions, please feel free to contact me at dkim at edelbrock dot com.

[wreckwriter]

Got mine today. Sure enough, labeled as 97-99 Impala but number is correct as per Russell site. No other cars listed as using same number. 97-99 Impala not listed on the site.

[Dennis]

Got mine today. Sure enough, labeled as 97-99 Impala but number is correct as per Russell site. No other cars listed as using same number. 97-99 Impala not listed on the site.

The issue has been resolved. There was a problem with the labeling system. The brake hoses under 692210 p/n is the correct ones for the G8, and the Impala description should be disregarded. We have made the corrections to existing inventory on hand.

If there are any issues with the brake hoses, please feel free to contact me.
Regards,
Dennis

[GRRRR8]

Got mine today from Pace! They are correct and like all Russell products they are perfect!

[conipc]

they do look good, although I think the fronts are mislabeled (r for L) but that should be easy....they're going on Saturday :)

[MtbDoc]

Keep us updated, guys. This sounds like the way to go.

[conipc]

Pretty straightforward, and they do firm up the pedal. Some notes:
My set's fronts were mislabeled, l to r, but it's obvious from the brackets.
Hard line nuts are 10mm, OE front soft lines are 13, rears 19; bleeders 10.
Fronts will POUR fluid, so have lots of rags and catch cans....rears don't.
Black plastic bracket pieces push in and turn to lock...unlock OE the same.
OE fluid was very cloudy, even after 4500 miles. You'll need close to a liter if you bleed it out. Also, let the pump bleed for a while in the rears as air is slow to get there...

Do I win first place????

[SRG963]

:TTIWWP::brock:

[conipc]

Not if you know what a brake line looks like :)... I get too dirty to get brake fluid all over my camera....

[GRRRR8]

:first: You got them done before me! My list is long and thats near the end, but 1 day next week.

[ETIDMotorsports]

Looking to order my lines today. Are the speed bleeders worth the extra money? Also what type of brake fluid is everyone using to refill?

[conipc]

Depends on what you're doing to bleed. If you have the Power Motive or other pressure bleeder you don't need them. If just pushing the pedal, then yes.
ATE fluid, gold or blue DOT 4.

[95_9C1]

Do the Russell GT front lines work with the GXP's Brembo calipers?

[616 of 933]

How is stopping with the new lines? would a new set of pads front and rear like hawks improve stopping and since you have the bleed the system would it be a good time to install line lock?