Local dealer bought a Firehawk

[Camss57]

Well my local Chevrolet dealers youngest son bought a G8 Firehawk that was a GM buyback car. I don't know how much he got it for but the car is red. I guess the car had a vibration that they could never take care of for the customer so GM bought the car back.

[Zodiac]

:TTIWWP:

Also GM should buy my car back then... still haven't solved my vibration issue after 4 years.

[MIEngineer]

I don't know why GM would buy back a Firehawk since GM never sold a Firehawk...SLP modified and sold them, at which point GM should wash their hands of their work since the modified everything on them but interiors and general parts basically....wheels, brakes, paint, powertrain...all changed over.

[Camss57]

That's the story they gave me. I don't know if SLP was involved or not with the buyback. As far as pics, I saw the car on the lot on Memorial day then I never saw it again until yesterday when he passed me on the intersate. I got the scoop on the car from one of the salemen at the dealer when I was picking up my new trunk latch.

[soup070]

Is it this Firehawk for sale in WI with only 8k:
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=96331853&listingRecNum=4&criteria=sf1Dir%3DDESC%26mkId%3D20035%26stkTyp%3DU %26mdId%3D21186%26rd%3D100000%26crSrtFlds%3DstkTyp Id-feedSegId-mkId-mdId%26zc%3D63069%26rn%3D0%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26stkTypId%3D28881%26sf2Dir%3DASC%26sf1Nm%3Dpric e%26sf2Nm%3Dmiles%26isDealerGrouping%3Dfalse%26rpp %3D50%26feedSegId%3D28705&aff=national&listType=1

[Slizzo]

Firehawk is still covered under factory warranty.

[TailG8er]

Anyone on here have one?

Are they worth the money?

How many of them were made?

[travis gore]

Anyone on here have one?

Are they worth the money?

How many of them were made?
yes
depends how bad you want one
?

[travis gore]

Is it this Firehawk for sale in WI with only 8k:
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=96331853&listingRecNum=4&criteria=sf1Dir%3DDESC%26mkId%3D20035%26stkTyp%3DU %26mdId%3D21186%26rd%3D100000%26crSrtFlds%3DstkTyp Id-feedSegId-mkId-mdId%26zc%3D63069%26rn%3D0%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26stkTypId%3D28881%26sf2Dir%3DASC%26sf1Nm%3Dpric e%26sf2Nm%3Dmiles%26isDealerGrouping%3Dfalse%26rpp %3D50%26feedSegId%3D28705&aff=national&listType=1

you can buy a GXP for that.

[TailG8er]

you can buy a GXP for that.

But the firehawk has more horsies. What is the benefit of a GXP over the Firehawk? Looks like the Firehawk would outperform a GXP and is more rare, too bad they didn't start with a GXP and then make improvements.

[spider1701]

32000 is a screaming deal on that car, for used gxp money you get a supercharged gt with warranty. if i didn't already have a supercharger sitting on mine i'd sell it and but the firehawk.

[WoodburyMan]

I don't know why GM would buy back a Firehawk since GM never sold a Firehawk...SLP modified and sold them, at which point GM should wash their hands of their work since the modified everything on them but interiors and general parts basically....wheels, brakes, paint, powertrain...all changed over.

Firehawk's were sold through GM Dealers. Just like the original Firehawks they have to be a high volume Pontiac dealer that sold lots of TransAms to be able to even order one. (Prob just general high volume or high volume of G8's in this case). There was only one qualified Pontiac dealer in our state back in the day. My Dad originally ordered a 1999 Firehawk, but SLP and GM had a disagreement and didn't make them for 1999, so his order got rolled over to a 30th Anniversary TransAm. IMHO.. better deal with a 1999 Firehawk :D

[Slizzo]

But the firehawk has more horsies. What is the benefit of a GXP over the Firehawk? Looks like the Firehawk would outperform a GXP and is more rare, too bad they didn't start with a GXP and then make improvements.

There were 4 GXP Firehawks in fact. Not sure if they've been sold however (one owner bought those 4, as well as 8 other GT Firehawks.)

[Zodiac]

Kevin Morgan has a SBM GXP firehawk, only one in the world. He's on the other board.

[travis gore]

But the firehawk has more horsies. What is the benefit of a GXP over the Firehawk? Looks like the Firehawk would outperform a GXP and is more rare, too bad they didn't start with a GXP and then make improvements.

I meant that is a great deal!
here is some Firehawks


http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=18100

Firehawk Standard Content Includes:

� SLP TVS 1900 500 HP Series Supercharger Package
� SLP PowerFlo� Stainless Steel Exhaust System
� SLP Blackwing� Cold Air Induction System
� SLP Sport Suspension Package
� Flat Black Painted Hood and Grille Surrounds
� Painted Lower Fascia Grille Inserts (Body Color)
� SLP Rear Spoiler Painted Flat Black
� Firehawk 19" 5-spoke, Gun Metal Painted Alloy Wheels w/Machined Spoke Face and Firehawk Logo Center Caps
� Firehawk Badges
� Firehawk Car Cover
� Firehawk Leather (faux) Portfolio
� Firehawk Birth Certificate
� Firehawk Numbered Dash Plaque and Key Fobs (2)
� Firehawk Floor Mats
� Firehawk Embroidered Headrests

Optional Firehawk Content:

� Competition Brake Package
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.firehawk.org/images/lit/2009/bulletin-na.pdf&sa=U&ei=iq4uUJe4NOy6yAG_tYHIDg&ved=0CAYQFjAA&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNFufDDu06NKY-9Vc4MboW7dwh1HBg
WARRANTY COVERAGE
SLP will be wholly responsible for the Firehawk package and for certification of all systems affected by the Firehawk
package, in accordance with applicable Federal and State Regulations when installed, as outlined by SLP, by an SLP
authorized Installer or Pontiac Dealer. On new vehicles, SLP will administer and provide 3 year/36,000 mile warranty
coverage, for all Firehawk components installed and for systems affected by their installation. On used vehicles, SLP will
warranty this package and options for the balance of the factory warranty or 12 months, whichever is greater. The General
Motors Warranty continues to apply to all parts and systems not affected by the Firehawk package, but does not apply to
the Firehawk package by SLP. Furthermore, SLP shall provide warranty information for consumers in the supplemental
owner’s manual that is delivered with each Firehawk. All warranty work must be pre-approved by SLP.
SLP reserves the right to change pricing, product content and/or specifications prior to accepting an order for a Firehawk
package with proper notification to the ordering party.
For more information contact SLP’s Customer and Dealer Assistance Center at (810) 724-8703 or Fax (810) 724-8789,
8:30 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. Monday – Friday, Eastern Standard Time.

if you want to read more go here
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=g8%20firehawk&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CHQQFjAK&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.firehawkowners.com%2Fmodel%2F firehawk_supercharged_g8_gt.html&ei=1K8uUNH_I4a9ywH364DIAQ&usg=AFQjCNFtzqIFuC1jZGjaXWzoNcU2A9uFtw

[bracketracer]

But the firehawk has more horsies. What is the benefit of a GXP over the Firehawk? Looks like the Firehawk would outperform a GXP and is more rare, too bad they didn't start with a GXP and then make improvements.

They did. They built 10 GXP Firehawks, but only 9 of those were built off of actual GXPs. The pilot car started life as a G8 GT, like all the other GXP Firehawks. I believe that there were 29 total G8 Firehawks built including the GXP Firehawks. The GXP Firehawks were rated at about 550 HP IIRC.

[bracketracer]

There were 4 GXP Firehawks in fact. Not sure if they've been sold however (one owner bought those 4, as well as 8 other GT Firehawks.)


Actual number is 10 GXP Firehawks, and I have the VINs documented in the G8 Registry. 9 of those were actual GXPs, and then the GXP Firehawk "pilot car" built off of a G8 GT with GXP drivetrain installed. There was a White Hot GXP that was completely painted in Camaro yellow (including door jams and firewall) with Transformers badges added to be like "Bumblebee." It looked really sharp!

[Slizzo]

Actual number is 10 GXP Firehawks, and I have the VINs documented in the G8 Registry. 9 of those were actual GXPs, and then the GXP Firehawk "pilot car" built off of a G8 GT with GXP drivetrain installed. There was a White Hot GXP that was completely painted in Camaro yellow (including door jams and firewall) with Transformers badges added to be like "Bumblebee." It looked really sharp!

Yeah you're right. I think I was just remembering that one guy that had like 20 G8s and 4 of them were GXP Firehawks. The Yellow one sticks out in my mind instantly.

[TailG8er]

I do not want to see a yellow one, its my least favorite color on a car.

[Slizzo]

I do not want to see a yellow one, its my least favorite color on a car.

I know cross-posting to the other board may be taboo, but here's a link to the specific post with a picture of the yellow GXP Firehawk.

Honestly I don't think it's such a bad shade on the G8. At least it looks good with the black accents on the car.

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showpost.php?p=704578&postcount=60

[Camss57]

Is it this Firehawk for sale in WI with only 8k:
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=96331853&listingRecNum=4&criteria=sf1Dir%3DDESC%26mkId%3D20035%26stkTyp%3DU %26mdId%3D21186%26rd%3D100000%26crSrtFlds%3DstkTyp Id-feedSegId-mkId-mdId%26zc%3D63069%26rn%3D0%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26stkTypId%3D28881%26sf2Dir%3DASC%26sf1Nm%3Dpric e%26sf2Nm%3Dmiles%26isDealerGrouping%3Dfalse%26rpp %3D50%26feedSegId%3D28705&aff=national&listType=1

Yup, that's it. I talked to him last weekend. It was a GM buyback car because of a vibration. After weeks of trying to find out what was wrong they found a bolt in the suspension that was longer than stock that was hitting somewhere. He said one side of the car sat 3/4 of an inch higher than the other. Still has a slight steering wheel shake. The car looks great and is very clean. They bought it with 6600 miles on it and now it has 8300.

[GeoffA]

I know cross-posting to the other board may be taboo, but here's a link to the specific post with a picture of the yellow GXP Firehawk.

Honestly I don't think it's such a bad shade on the G8. At least it looks good with the black accents on the car.

http://www.g8board.com/forums/showpost.php?p=704578&postcount=60

That was a great collection that guy was auctioning. Would have loved to get one back then.

[Panzer Leader]

What? No sunroof? LOL

[AL@G8R]

So technically a one owner car? $29,999 CPO'ed sounds reasonable...:cheers:

[EcoBrick Bob]

So.. is this a GXP Firehawk with the 6.2, or a GT Firehawk with the 6.0?

[Slizzo]

So.. is this a GXP Firehawk with the 6.2, or a GT Firehawk with the 6.0?

Listing is still up and says 6.0L V8 w/6 speed auto


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[AL@G8R]

Autocheck says no buyback, LEMON. So $20,999...:notworking:

[TravisKraick]

I just joined this forum because I learned about this Firehawk for sale and come to find out, someone has started a thread on it already! I'm disappointed though b/c in 3 pages of posts, I've only heard 1 person give their opinion that $33K was a steal for this car. I was told on Facebook by the GRRRR8 page administrator that this group has 2 G8 Firehawk owners - can we get them to weigh in on the issue? I'm really interested in this car but need some advice from qualified sources on whether it's a smart purchase (even for a beginning G8 enthusiast). And regarding the buy back/lemon thing from the last comment - that's a general category. The word "lemon" doesn't mean the car is crap. It simply falls within the category which describes why GM allowed a refund to the original owner. A "vibration". But is $33K for a G8 GT Firehawk a good deal? So good that I need to rush and buy this thing? I mean it sold for $60K originally - how could $33K NOT be a steal at 8,330 miles???

[gtxgp]

To fix and drive and enjoy it is a steal. To buy with an investment as primary interest, it is not a deal...it will never be a GNX.

[Zodiac]

I have always had a soft spot for the G8 Firehawk. So yeah I say it's a steal.

[Virus]

I just joined this forum because I learned about this Firehawk for sale and come to find out, someone has started a thread on it already! I'm disappointed though b/c in 3 pages of posts, I've only heard 1 person give their opinion that $33K was a steal for this car. I was told on Facebook by the GRRRR8 page administrator that this group has 2 G8 Firehawk owners - can we get them to weigh in on the issue? I'm really interested in this car but need some advice from qualified sources on whether it's a smart purchase (even for a beginning G8 enthusiast). And regarding the buy back/lemon thing from the last comment - that's a general category. The word "lemon" doesn't mean the car is crap. It simply falls within the category which describes why GM allowed a refund to the original owner. A "vibration". But is $33K for a G8 GT Firehawk a good deal? So good that I need to rush and buy this thing? I mean it sold for $60K originally - how could $33K NOT be a steal at 8,330 miles???

Deal is in the eyes of the beholder. I would like to see the price lower. The vibration issues are just parts. I know someone posted they found the major contributor to the vibration issue and I'm sure if true that was SLP's fault for installing the incorrect bolt. Regardless to fix vibration issues it's just a matter of money and how much it will cost to resolve. If you can do the work yourself it's a more attractive vehicle. I still wouldn't pay more than 38k given the track record.

[TravisKraick]

To fix and drive and enjoy it is a steal. To buy with an investment as primary interest, it is not a deal...it will never be a GNX.

Forgive me, but I'm new to this world. I have seen 2 dozen acronyms in this forum that I don't understand, and "GNX" is one of them. But regardless of that, I'm in no position (yet) to be buying a car(s) as an investment. 99.999999% of cars depreciate in value. There's no reason to believe that a Firehawk isn't one of them.

More specifically, my question should be: If I wait 12 months, am I going to find the same car (same mileage, color, options, etc.) for the same price, and if I DO buy it now, but my wife threatens to divorce me unless I sell it, will I be able to get the same (if not MORE!) if I turn around and sell it again? This all stems from the fact that these cars sold less than 3 years ago for $56K+ and I found another one online recently (10,000 miles) for $41,000. Something is telling me it's too good to pass up.

[TravisKraick]

Notice my "3" posts and lack of signature telling you what car I own. Like I said, I'm new to this world, but I WANT to learn and I want to be able to hold my own in a conversation. Thanks for your patience, everyone.

[GRRRR8]

A GNX was a limited production Buick in 1987. Similar to the Buick Grand National, but much better.

[Virus]

You will not find a Firehawk for the same price in 12 months. SLP purchased a limited number of G8 GT's and put their own performance and appearance package together for them. The car itself was way overpriced for what it was, but the reward is that it's a collectors car and GM will honor the warranty on them. You can find a similar or better equipped G8 for less now.

With regard to your question about selling in 12 months: it's a hard sell with it marked as a lemon. There's a reason its still for sale! Not to mention I believe GM has voided the warranty on this particular car so any repairs come from your wallet.