underbody aero kit

[hayabusa160]

hey paul any info on this?
can you get it?

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/621/medium/Aero-138.jpg

[incon3037r]

+1

[Daniel Linnett]

That may even work with my secondary pump setup and comepletely hide it :)


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[polo]

That may even work with my secondary pump setup and comepletely hide it :)


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Not a bad idea

[BluYa76]

hey paul any info on this?
can you get it?

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/gallery/data/621/medium/Aero-138.jpg

I know he can get the oil pan skid plate cause I've got one on my car from him.

[Crazy Paul]

Yes I can get the parts, we've already done the oil pan protector plate.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Sump-prot-139.jpg

Freight to USA will probably cost more than the parts themselves. Anything over 105cm in length has to go DHL/Fedex etc and they don't charge on weight for light items.
I'll get the bits together into a pile and work out the damage in the next few days.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/VEIISSVRedline13.jpg

[SpeedRacerX]

Makes me wonder now if some of the movement I feel at 65-70+ mph at cruising or above is actually turbulence from under the car.

Is that possible?

I would think it could be considering that most higher-end sports cars come with some sort of underbody aero panels. Are they doing that for the rare 200 mph blast or even just for the daily highway commute?

Helps for gas mileage too???


PAUL: are they plastic?

[djerickd]

SWEET I bet you might gain a lil gas milage! how much?!

[Posidon42]

Looks good. Wonder if an enterprising individual might make something like this with some ABS sheet and some fasteners.

[wreckwriter]

Interesting as hell but the shipping is gonna kill it I suspect.

[travis gore]

Interesting as hell but the shipping is gonna kill it I suspect.


shipping would be tough. would have to be a group buy I would guess

[wreckwriter]

yea, like enough to rent a freighter :)

[Crazy Paul]

PAUL: are they plastic?
The oil pan protector and the 4 underfloor plates are all made from Poly Proplylene.
PP-GM-30
(Same material as the front and rear fascias...impact resistant).
The basic material is about 3mm thick but there's ribs,webs,pad stiffeners for fasteners,longitudinal channels, all molded in to give it strength where needed. None of the bits flop around when you pick them up.

[It's A G8!]

I guess this wouldn't work for those that have the sub frame connectors.

[incon3037r]

+1 on group buy

[BluYa76]

The oil pan protector and the 4 underfloor plates are all made from Poly Proplylene.
PP-GM-30
(Same material as the front and rear fascias...impact resistant).
The basic material is about 3mm thick but there's ribs,webs,pad stiffeners for fasteners,longitudinal channels, all molded in to give it strength where needed. None of the bits flop around when you pick them up.

The oil pan plate is pretty stiff do to the way the ribs/channels are molded into it. I'm happy with it and unless you plan on jumpy a few rivers to get away from the local law, it will protect the oil pan and the filter.

[2StepsAhead]

+1 on group buy

Im a sucker for aero, Id most likely be in on this.

[GeoffA]

I like this too!

[Todasi]

I also love aero parts, I guess I watch too much F1. Interested in these parts, how much is the oil pan protector??

[Crazy Paul]

I also love aero parts, I guess I watch too much F1. Interested in these parts, how much is the oil pan protector??

Oil pan protector is currently US$215 shipped by Airfreight.
Or 2 together shipped to the same address by Airfreight for US$350.

** You'd be best purchasing the mounting fasteners there in USA where they are much cheaper.
For each protector plate you need 6x GM#11519388 bolts.
(M8x1.25 thread x 25mm long)

Oilpan Protector Plate.
Accessory for Series 1 (law enforcement option) & standard on Series 2.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Sump-prot-139.jpg

[Crazy Paul]

Had a look under a 2010 VE Series 1 today and tried fitting the Series 2 Aero panels to it.

Long Front Panels

On the underneath surface of both the long front panels are 2 x small metal wedge shaped clips which align to slots which exist under the car. (Marked on the pic below as "clip").

Forward and Aft of the metal clips is a line of 3 holes which align with small (approx 6mm square) holes which exist under the car.
At the very front is another (approx 6mm square) hole which exists under the car.
At the rear outer position is another (approx 6mm square) hole which exists under the car.

These square holes in the car underbody would take some kind of push-in retainer or maybe a threaded nut-sert which is yet to be identified.

There are no square holes to accept retainers down the long outer sill line of the car.

There is no threaded hole under the car to accept a bolt for the inner rear position of the front panel.
(This position is close to the rust proofing or drain plug under the floorpan of the car).

Summary:
On each long front panel:
Two metal wedge clips will align.
Five of Nine retainers will align with square holes under the car.
There is no threaded hole under the car to align with the bolt hole in the panel.
***The existing holes are not sufficient to properly attach the Series 2 panels to a Series 1 car.


Short Rounded Rear Panels

Along the front edge the outer hole overlaps the front panel and shares an existing square hole under the car.
Under the front edge in the centre are two metal threaded nut-serts which when overlapped with front panels take threaded fasteners pinning the front and rear panels together.
The inner rear corner hole lines up with nothing under the car.
In the centre of each rear panel are two holes designed to accept threaded fasteners.....directly under both these holes is the base of the Series1 fuel tank. There are no attachment points under the fuel tank.
Series1 and Series2 fuel tanks are different.

Summary:
On each rounded rear panel:
Two metal nut-serts will align which allow front and rear panels to be tied together.
One of Two outer retainers will align with square holes under the car.
There are no threaded holes under the fuel tank to align with the 2 bolt holes in each of the panels.
***The existing holes are not sufficient to properly attach the Series 2 panels to a Series 1 car.

Green dots indicate existing mounting points which will align.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Aero-800marked.jpg

[J Wikoff]

Ahhh nurtz.

[Todasi]

So what you're saying is, it's a no go?

Anyone want to buy a oil pan protector with me to save on shipping costs??

[edfiero]

I wonder if any of our forum supporting vendors would look into making their own version of these Aero covers in such a way that they could bolt up.

[peterg22000]

Anyone have a picture of a Series 1 from the same angle?

[ak01q]

So what you're saying is, it's a no go?

Anyone want to buy a oil pan protector with me to save on shipping costs??

That depends on if there is any issue with Kooks LT headers installed. Don't want to be melting the protector.

[Crazy Paul]

Anyone have a picture of a Series 1 from the same angle?

See the 4 bolts on the Series2 rear pieces, they do not line up with the fueltank straps....all 4 are inboard of the straps.
On Series1 fueltank inboard of the straps is nothing but the flat bottom of the plastic fueltank. ie No holes or mounting bosses.
Also just to the rear of the trans-tunnel cross brace on that yellow section there are no holes for the 2 bolts required to mount the long front sections.

Series2 VE
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/Aero-13800.jpg

Pontiac G8 GXP
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/VE%20under/g8underx.jpg

[J Wikoff]

I dunno, it kinda looks like those rear panel bolts line up with the tank straps. They line up at the same angle across the tank.

[Crazy Paul]

It's going to take some idiot with a paint pen, Series2 panels and a Series1 on a hoist to convince you otherwise I suppose.
:)

[G8V8]

Looks that way.

[J Wikoff]

IMO, I'm more interested to see a Series II without the panels on.

[BlackGT5]

Hmm, this car looks familiar :)


http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/ss266/blackgt5/BFEOct2011.jpg

[edfiero]

Can't believe someone hasn't jumped all over fabricating some of these to bolt up.

[grandprixrollsout]

If someone makes these to fit our cars, I have cash in hand.

[hayabusa160]

some guy on the g8board had a thread on how to make them work

[fixem2]

Same guy has a Group buy as well, although I would rather buy from CP. Seems like you have to drill or use self tapping screws, to make new holes. Then fabricate some brackets to mount to the fuel tank brackets.

[jcmGT]

24 to 26 new holes to attach them as per "the guy over there" is what keeps me from the purchase. I'm unsure of the corrosion resistance of these cars and just don't want to give rust a chance to start.

[Crazy Paul]

Same guy has a Group buy as well, although I would rather buy from CP. Seems like you have to drill or use self tapping screws, to make new holes. Then fabricate some brackets to mount to the fuel tank brackets.

Just buy the DIY kit offered elsewhere. I can't find the OEM fasteners or enough info to do the job as per factory. People are already bitching about the price of the kit offered elsewhere and they get way better freight prices than me. I've already said the freight costs more than the parts.

[winmilla]

Does anyone have the 5 part numbers for the panels used in this kit?

[Crazy Paul]

92180526 ---> 92261555
92244403 ---> 92261820
92244402 ---> 92261819
92244558
92244559

[Greg@PacePerformance]

All the part numbers Paul just listed will be available stateside from me ;) except maybe the oil pan deflector 92180526. I also have the required tank straps :D

Paul.
I'm coming up with part number 92456818 instead of 92261820 can you check into that?

[Crazy Paul]

Paul.
I'm coming up with part number 92456818 instead of 92261820 can you check into that?

92261820 is still valid here, it comes up as a 2011.5 (Mid-year revision) part.
9245wxyz fits into the scheme of being a 2014 VF part.
[I'll find out tomorrow if 92456818 is backwards compatible or not].

[SRG963]

All the part numbers Paul just listed will be available stateside from me ;) except maybe the oil pan deflector 92180526. I also have the required tank straps :D

I'm interested....but only want the panels that don't require drilling holes :)

and of course, my purchase always depends on pricing....

Thanks

[peterg22000]

Interested as well.

[Crazy Paul]

I'm interested....but only want the panels that don't require drilling holes :)
So that's just the oilpan cover plate then.

[JimmyJazz]

I'v e thought of trying these http://www.weldmountsystem.com/ But I think you'd have to give up subframes and headers.

[Crazy Paul]

Paul.
I'm coming up with part number 92456818 instead of 92261820 can you check into that?

p/n 92244403 is the initial part number used for VE series 2 up to 09/May/2011
p/n 92261820 was from 09/May/2011 onwards but now both have been replaced with p/n 92456818.

[winmilla]

All the part numbers Paul just listed will be available stateside from me ;) except maybe the oil pan deflector 92180526. I also have the required tank straps :D

Paul.
I'm coming up with part number 92456818 instead of 92261820 can you check into that?


CP - thanks for the part number info

Are you able to share the tank strap part numbers?

[Greg@PacePerformance]

I guess I can for now. They are just 2014 SS tank straps.
92420237 x2

[ABDAWG]

I guess I can for now. They are just 2014 SS tank straps.
92420237 x2

Will those fit the G8?

[Crazy Paul]

Will those fit the G8?
Greg is away at SEMA for a week.
I'll check out VE Series 2 (2011+) tank straps for you, in case you want them put with the aero panels I have here for you.

[Crazy Paul]

VE Series 2 tank straps are Part Number 92250928.
They're cheaper to buy in USA than in AU.
2011+ WM Chevrolet Caprice PPV should have these 92250928 tank straps.
VE Sedan and WM Sedan (in equivalent years) both use the same tank straps.
There's a guy on another Forum who says his 2011 Caprice in USA has the brackets for mounting aero panels on his tank straps.

[Greg@PacePerformance]

Now the question is why are the 92250928 and 92420237 straps different?

Rear left and right Chevrolet SS deflectors are on order and should be here by Monday :thumbsup:

[s/c'd cav]

any updates on this ?

when i saw the 14 SS i did notice they dont use the oil pan plate , but ive considered putting everything on mine since seeing it

[ABDAWG]

Paul do you know the torque specs for the oil pan protector plate bolts?

[Crazy Paul]

Paul do you know the torque specs for the oil pan protector plate bolts?
No, I've got nothing here that would tell me.
Other M8 bolts doing similar jobs get done to 18 ft.lbs

[camopaint0707]

doesn't jhp sell them?

[BluYa76]

Paul do you know the torque specs for the oil pan protector plate bolts?

I've had my oil pan plate for bout 3 years plus, and it's been removed and installed every oil change, and I only tighten the bolts about as much as I do for the oil pan drain plug. Never had any issues with loosing of the bolts.

[ABDAWG]

No, I've got nothing here that would tell me.
Other M8 bolts doing similar jobs get done to 18 ft.lbs


I've had my oil pan plate for bout 3 years plus, and it's been removed and installed every oil change, and I only tighten the bolts about as much as I do for the oil pan drain plug. Never had any issues with loosing of the bolts.

Thanks Paul and BluYa for the info. Was worried that it would fly off while driving, if it wasn't tightened to specs......Just like Fast and the Furious!......LOL!

[Svendingo]

Danger to manifold!

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