NEW Improved Holden A/C Belt Throwing Fix. [Archive] - GRRRR8.net

Crazy Paul

05-02-2011, 11:54 PM

EDIT-December 3rd 2013
Brackets are finally available again. I have stock !!!!!

EDIT-December 15th 2013
Stock is now held in Florida for even faster delivery to you!!!!!

DEAL 45R.

Bracket with new idler pulley and a complete new tensioner - 92252927
US$190 shipped
PRICE INCLUDES SHIPPING.

Belt to suit new bracket arrangement & non-underdriven A/C pulley on balancer.

4PK1108 = 92244381
Add US$20.

OR

Belt to suit new bracket arrangement & 10% underdriven A/C pulley on balancer.
[Belt for Second Design U/D Pulley]
Use 4PK1065 = K040420.
Buy it there in USA in case you need to swap for something a little longer or shorter.

To Order:
Send a Paypal to my Paypal ID = crazypaul@iinet.net.au
Include your Forum Username & Shipping Address
In one of the Paypal Message Boxes type what the money is for, eg: "Deal45R + 4PK1108"
Pay in US$
** Priority Mail shipping from Florida to most parts of USA will take 3 or 4 days.

See this thread for more info.
[B]Thread: Holden fix for A/C belt throwing
http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=14506

THIS IS THE NEW A/C BRACKET FIX, you get everything in the picture for US$190 shipped.
Yes...you get a totally new A/C tensioner.
Yes....you get the A/C idler pulley.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/Pxs1010604.jpg

IF you have the stock crank balancer, the new longer A/C belt required to work with the new bracket will be 4PK1108.
I can supply a 4PK1108 for $20 extra if shipped with the new A/C bracket fix.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/R1090411.jpg

STOCK BELT ROUTING for A/C
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/L76-2700.jpg

A/C BELT ROUTING WITH NEW A/C BRACKET BELT THROWING FIX INSTALLED
[Stock A/C belt 4PK1101 becomes too short because of the new Idler pushing down on the belt.....4PK1108 becomes the new belt required if you still have the stock crank balancer pulley fitted]
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/routing700.jpg

Crazy Paul

05-02-2011, 11:59 PM

The new bracket with new idler and a complete new tensioner on the left (Deal45R) , Previous fix on the right was a new bracket and new idler only (Deal 45).
You previously had to re-use your old A/C tensioner or buy a new A/C tensioner seperately for an extra $80+.

New [Deal 45R] A/C Bracket assembly is much greater value for money.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/Pxs1010599.jpg

Sephiroth

05-03-2011, 03:27 AM

That's a whole lot of part for a little amount of money. Makes me want to do this even though I haven't had any problems

Eidolon

05-03-2011, 06:47 AM

My engine has thrown the A/C belt on me once already, resulting in a tensioner replacement. I don't believe the replacement had an idler pulley, though, so it's probably just a matter of time until it's thrown again.

jscruick

05-03-2011, 06:59 AM

Paul: If I go with new deal 45R, which a/c belt would one need with a PB UDP( Black) second design (10% a/c underdrive), Thanks John PS your website address

Crazy Paul

05-03-2011, 07:20 AM

Paul: If I go with new deal 45R, which a/c belt would one need with a PB UDP( Black) second design (10% a/c underdrive), Thanks John PS your website address

Since the stock balancer is the same OD as the first design Powerbond (with no U/D on A/C) on the A/C portion of the pulley.....and stock balancer with new idler and tensioner takes 4PK1108.
I'd say 4PK1108 for first design Powerbond/SLP with new Holden Belt Fix arrangement.
4PK1108=GM belt 92244381

Belt to suit new bracket arrangement & 10% underdriven A/C pulley on balancer.
[Belt for Second Design U/D Pulley]
Use 4PK1065 = K040420.
Buy it there in USA in case you need to swap for something a little longer or shorter.

You won't find the Holden A/C Belt fix on my website and you don't need my website to order anything.
Just send a Paypal to my Paypal ID = pjsadler@iinet.net.au
Type in the Paypal Comments boxes what you want ie: DEAL 45R

C.P. website http://members.iinet.net.au/~pjsadler/

Crazy Paul

05-18-2011, 08:05 PM

I had a question yesterday about the effectiveness of the A/C bracket mod in stopping the A/C belt from jumping off.
Just spoke with the Service Manager from a large Holden dealership here, he's fitted heaps of them (probably 15 or more) and has a 100% success rate. No cars have come back for A/C belt throwing after the mod was done.
He had the same problem with his own car and fitted the mod, problem gone.
He suggested that the only time you'll get a problem after the bracket mod is if you have excessive run-out in the crank harmonic balancer. Stands to reason if the main pulley is wobbling all over the place the belt won't like going straight around the other pulleys.

texn884

05-20-2011, 07:57 PM

Is there a specific batch of cars that has had this issue Paul? Seems mine is not having the problem and after 77,566 miles on the original belt it still looks to be in great shape.
Still it is not much money for a nice OEM part to ward off a problem in the middle of a Texas summer if the a/c belt goes flying off.

Darkmanx

05-20-2011, 08:12 PM

tHIS happend to me the other day and scared the shit outta me

Crazy Paul

05-20-2011, 10:17 PM

Is there a specific batch of cars that has had this issue Paul?

All VE based V8 cars built before 19th November 2009 were put together with no idler pulley on the A.C belt.
There were also problems with runout on the stock main crank pulley (harmonic balancer) and that part has been superceded two or three times. We all know the Powerbond U/D pulley was also re-designed to drop the A/C belt speed and assist with belt retention. High rpm has been quoted as one main enemy of the A/C belt in this application.
Some cars will exhibit no problems yet others will......some driving styles may be better than others on belts.
So many variables come into the mix.
If you are sick and tired of throwing A/C belts then get the A/C belt fix.

BigV8

01-31-2012, 02:28 PM

CP is this still available? Thanks. Jerry

Crazy Paul

01-31-2012, 04:17 PM

CP is this still available? Thanks. Jerry
Yes Jerry, I have current stock & can buy more anytime I want.

jscruick

01-31-2012, 05:20 PM

Yes Jerry, I have current stock & can buy more anytime I want.

I purchased this assembly from CP several months ago, including belt, has not thrown belt since; and I have been trying though

kendall.alston

01-31-2012, 05:21 PM

^^^^^----- +1 on that! havent thrown my belt since! great product

Doug Hilliard

01-31-2012, 05:27 PM

Worked for me too!

VegasNate

01-31-2012, 06:31 PM

Will be ordering soon....:) tired of the belt coming off but waiting till I need AC

Crazy Paul

01-31-2012, 11:36 PM

Will be ordering soon....:) tired of the belt coming off but waiting till I need AC
2 weeks before you need AC would be a great time to order Bigfella.

todds87ss

02-01-2012, 07:24 AM

the great thing about this is that it is not much more cost than a replacement of the tensioner. Very cost effective. I'm waiting on mine to fall off...One More Time!!!

todds87ss

02-02-2012, 04:54 AM

What a bitch...On the way home after posting this, the damn belt falls off again. That's it! I've had it! Ordering now!

Crazy Paul

02-02-2012, 09:22 AM

What a bitch...On the way home after posting this, the damn belt falls off again. That's it! I've had it! Ordering now!
Received your Paypal, I'll e-mail you the shipping details about 8Hrs from now.
Thanks.

Crazy8

02-02-2012, 02:48 PM

I need this now too. I've thrown mine twice this week! Arrgh.

Eidolon

02-02-2012, 02:49 PM

Haven't thrown mine since putting this on, so the fix continues to hold.

todds87ss

02-03-2012, 04:45 AM

Haven't thrown mine since putting this on, so the fix continues to hold.

Good to hear. I look forward to never having to jack with that belt again.

Crazy8

02-03-2012, 05:41 AM

Mine's on the way. It would be unusually warm here right now so I actually want to use my AC in February. Normally, I wouldn't need it this time of year.

BigV8

02-04-2012, 08:49 AM

Paypal sent. I only threw mine once and never knew it till I went to pick up my parents at the airport and the a/c didn't work. Luckly I was able to just put it back on.

Crazy Paul

02-04-2012, 09:01 AM

Paypal sent.
Received all OK thanks.
I have a bracket here I'll airfreight first thing Monday for you.

kendall.alston

02-04-2012, 09:35 AM

i actually broke the stock idler at the track... i could push down the idler with my hand and put the belt on lol.

Crazy Paul

02-04-2012, 09:45 AM

i actually broke the stock idler at the track... i could push down the idler with my hand and put the belt on lol.
Tensioner ---> puts tension on a belt.
Idler ----> guides a belt.

In stock form you have an idler and a tensioner on the main belt.
In stock form you only have a tensioner on the A/C belt.

kendall.alston

02-04-2012, 09:49 AM

soo correction....could push down the tensioner with my hand to put belt on

Crazy Paul

02-04-2012, 09:59 AM

Stock form.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/Belts-exp.jpg

A/C belt fix adds an A/C belt idler.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/Ps1010599.jpg

With new A/C bracket fitted. A/C belt now has a tensioner and an idler to guide the belt.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/LS304.jpg

Eidolon

02-04-2012, 12:15 PM

Paypal sent. I only threw mine once and never knew it till I went to pick up my parents at the airport and the a/c didn't work. Luckly I was able to just put it back on.

It'll be less than 500 miles before you throw it again is my bet. Once thrown, it means your tensioner is shot. With some help, I put it back on again first time and threw it again two days later. Of course, that time I also overstressed the tensioner. The dealer replaced the tensioner and I threw the belt again at VIR.

todds87ss

02-04-2012, 03:27 PM

I would be buying my 3rd tensioner this time...hopefully Pauls fix will be my last tensioner!
after opening my hood, finally looked at the belt, as I was going to put it back on and drive to work...DAMN TENSIONER IS BROKEN IN HALF!!!

Darkmanx

02-11-2012, 03:23 PM

ok paul do you have any of these in stock? my belt just flew and cracked the pulley and the tensioner , do you have the part number for the pulley?

Crazy Paul

02-11-2012, 03:31 PM

ok paul do you have any of these in stock? my belt just flew and cracked the pulley and the tensioner , do you have the part number for the pulley?
Yes I have the A/C belt throwing fix (bracket with new idler and new tensioner) and the belt to suit stock crank pulley/balancer....both in stock currently.

Sounds from your other post like you are also chasing the A/C pulley? I'll go check.

Darkmanx

02-11-2012, 03:47 PM

yes sir thanks

Crazy Paul

02-11-2012, 03:58 PM

yes sir thanks
Posted info in your other thread.

Crazy8

02-13-2012, 03:18 PM

I got mine today. Thanks Paul.

I am, however, dreading the installation.

Crazy Paul

02-13-2012, 04:10 PM

I got mine today. Thanks Paul.
I am, however, dreading the installation.

Excellent.
Can be as easy as an hour with a hoist or as bad as half a day and a box of bandages without a hoist.

todds87ss

02-13-2012, 04:23 PM

I got mine today. Thanks Paul.

I am, however, dreading the installation.

I was also. Just tackled this (thanks, paul for the quick delivery). A 13mm and 15mm socket is all that is needed. remove the compressor to the side/front (3 bolts). the bracket is now very accessable. remove the 5 bolts and 1 nut holding it in. Bolt the new one in exactly as the old one was. No change. Very easy. It looks intimidating due to it's location.

Crazy8

02-14-2012, 03:34 AM

I was also. Just tackled this (thanks, paul for the quick delivery). A 13mm and 15mm socket is all that is needed. remove the compressor to the side/front (3 bolts). the bracket is now very accessable. remove the 5 bolts and 1 nut holding it in. Bolt the new one in exactly as the old one was. No change. Very easy. It looks intimidating due to it's location.

Thanks for the tips!

shane

02-19-2012, 07:58 PM

Well i happened to look over my car tonight and notice the belt was chilling off the tensioner and compressor .

kendall.alston

02-19-2012, 08:03 PM

well like they say....once it comes off once....it will happen again lol. great mod! do it!

hflores3

02-19-2012, 08:38 PM

kendall.alston

02-19-2012, 08:42 PM

i used a lift...made things a little more simplier. but it is pretty easy once you actually get started.

Crazy8

02-26-2012, 08:28 PM

I just got done swapping mine out. It really was pretty simple, just a PITA b/c of the location. It ended up taking me close to 3 hours from start to finish, including clean up. It probably could have done it in 2 hours if I had everything I needed from the get go, and that's doing it in my garage on jackstands.

I took a few pics along the way. If anyone wants to see them, I can throw them up.

It's A G8!

02-26-2012, 09:05 PM

^^^^ I would like to see the pic's.

jscruick

02-27-2012, 01:44 AM

Pictures are always good for a learning tool for others!

I just got done swapping mine out. It really was pretty simple, just a PITA b/c of the location. It ended up taking me close to 3 hours from start to finish, including clean up. It probably could have done it in 2 hours if I had everything I needed from the get go, and that's doing it in my garage on jackstands.

I took a few pics along the way. If anyone wants to see them, I can throw them up.

Crazy Paul

05-30-2012, 03:05 PM

Here is how your A/C compressor mounts to the A/C bracket.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/341150347.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/AC-comp.jpg

Crazy Paul

05-30-2012, 03:06 PM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/AC-bracket1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/AC-bracket11.jpg

TIP TO GIVE MORE CLEARANCE:
Try backing the rear stud out of the block, to save having to move the compressor so far to the right side of the car.
If the rear stud behaved the same way as the other bolts then things might be easier.

ie:
Borrow a nut from somewhere else and thread it up against the existing nut.....lock the two nuts together using opposing wrenches.
Then use a wrench on the innermost nut to unscrew the stud from the block.

This nut is the correct thread. Borrow it to use as the second nut on the stud shown with red arrow below.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/Spare-nut.jpg

Red arrow is the oddball stud. Using 2 nuts torqued together, unscrew the stud out of the engine block.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/Bracket-stud.jpg

Crazy Paul

05-30-2012, 03:07 PM

Install the new A/C Bracket.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/AC-bracket2.jpg

Crazy Paul

05-30-2012, 03:09 PM

Fasten the A/C Compressor to the new A/C Bracket

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/AC-comp2.jpg

nono50

06-26-2012, 06:51 PM

Sent funds for A/C Bracket for throwing A/C Belt fix.

Crazy Paul

06-26-2012, 06:57 PM

Sent funds for A/C Bracket for throwing A/C Belt fix.
Received all OK thanks, I'll e-mail you the shipping details in a couple of hours.
Thanks.

drglock

07-03-2012, 03:40 PM

Hey Paul,
Any idea what criteria dealerships use to determine if they will fix this issue under warranty or not? I have had it in the shop 3 times in 2 years for the belt coming off. The first 2 times they replaced the belt no charge and sent me on my way. Now they replaced the belt and charged me $200 and sent me on my way. I was furious simply because if the belt keeps coming off dont they think it is something other than the belt? I brought the info to their attention about holden re-designing the tensioner and idler pulley in 2009 because of this issue but of course they know nothing of it.

Crazy Paul

07-03-2012, 08:04 PM

Hey Paul,
Any idea what criteria dealerships use to determine if they will fix this issue under warranty or not?
I haven't read any of the direct info from Holden, but have spoken to a Service Manager here who at the time had done about 20 A/C bracket upgrade replacements under warranty. The vibe I got from him was that if there was a documented history of A/C belt throwing eg: 2 or 3 times replaced by Dealership.....then they had no problem putting the new A/C bracket mod thru under warranty.

P.S. It wouldn't matter if I could provide the Holden Docs or even a stone tablet engraved by the Pope.
Your dealers there in USA are only going to be directed by the people paying the warranty bill......ie GM North America.

gtp6515

09-17-2012, 02:18 PM

I cannot get to the bolt behind the compressor. I am stumped.

thebeast

10-21-2012, 03:04 PM

Just installed mine. Took about 4 weeks to get. No big deal though.

Install was a pain. My arms and hand are just too big for that little space to work in. Took about 3 hrs on jack stands.

Thank you very much crazy Paul. Really needed this.

Crazy Paul

10-21-2012, 05:10 PM

Just installed mine. Took about 4 weeks to get. No big deal though.
Yes I'm getting some horrible delivery schedules just these past 2 months.
Yours spent 5 days in the Postal system here before it even saw a plane, 5 more days until it cleared US Customs in California, then 9 days from Cali to Florida. Florida is always the slowest place I ship to, but that one went about 5 days worse than "normal".

thebeast

11-02-2012, 06:56 AM

It's all good. It's doing great. Been driving this car hard with this cool weather and belt is still on.

It truly is the fix for throwing belts

G8Holland

11-09-2012, 06:57 PM

It paints up pretty well too. Three coats of high temp engine enamel later, minus the mounting areas.

17093

Eric_GT

12-17-2012, 04:15 AM

Are there any of these available for purchase in the states?
The car is currently on the lift.

todds87ss

12-17-2012, 06:27 AM

Are there any of these available for purchase in the states?
The car is currently on the lift.

Probably not.

And the first negative thing I can say about the improved bracket...It makes cam changes more difficult. Now, I have to loosen the alternator bracket to allow removal of the Timing Chain cover...it is a bitch, but at least I'm not throwing belts!

Crazy Paul

12-17-2012, 07:43 AM

Are there any of these available for purchase in the states?
The car is currently on the lift.

None that I know of.

GM North America stock an earlier version of the Holden A/C bracket fix which does not come with a new A/C belt tensioner.
You could buy individual parts and make it up to the equivalent of the *New Improved Belt Throwing Fix"

#92244378 Old version Holden A/C bracket fix with no tensioner
#12595289 New A/C Tensioner
#92244381 Belt to suit new A/C bracket fix & stock crank pulley.
Totals up to over $500 there from GM + domestic shipping

Greg@PacePerformance

12-17-2012, 09:54 AM

None that I know of.

GM North America stock an earlier version of the Holden A/C bracket fix which does not come with a new A/C belt tensioner.
You could buy individual parts and make it up to the equivalent of the *New Improved Belt Throwing Fix"

#92244378 Old version Holden A/C bracket fix with no tensioner
#12595289 New A/C Tensioner
#92244381 Belt to suit new A/C bracket fix & stock crank pulley.
Totals up to over $500 there from GM + domestic shipping

Paul they are available here now.
The 92252927 is available here in the US now, just not at your price last time I checked.
Lansing has them in stock.

Eric_GT

12-17-2012, 11:34 AM

More details please, Greg.

Suckerpunchu

01-15-2013, 08:28 AM

Paul I want to order this but I am a little unsure of what I need for my stock setup. Do I just order 9225297 and 4PK1108 = 92244381 or do I need to buy belt in the US? Will place order ASAP as I am having work done (headers) at the end of the month.

DEAL 45R.

Bracket with new idler pulley and a complete new tensioner - 92252927
US$190 shipped by Airfreight.
PRICE INCLUDES SHIPPING.

Belt to suit new bracket arrangement & non-underdriven A/C pulley on balancer.
[Belt for Stock Balancer or First Design U/D Pulley]
4PK1108 = 92244381
Add US$20.

OR

Belt to suit new bracket arrangement & 10% underdriven A/C pulley on balancer.
[Belt for Second Design U/D Pulley]
Use 4PK1065 = K040420.
Buy it there in USA in case you need to swap for something a little longer or shorter.

To Order:
Send a Paypal to my Paypal ID = pjsadler@iinet.net.au
Include your Forum Username & Shipping Address
In one of the Paypal Message Boxes type what the money is for, eg: "Deal45R + 4PK1108"
Pay in US$
** Airfreight shipping from Australia to USA will take 2 weeks.

Crazy Paul

01-15-2013, 01:09 PM

Paul I want to order this but I am a little unsure of what I need for my stock setup. Do I just order 9225297 and 4PK1108 = 92244381 or do I need to buy belt in the US? Will place order ASAP as I am having work done (headers) at the end of the month.

If you order from me you just send a paypal for US$210 and you get DEAL45R shipped by Airfreight to your door.
[You'll get the new bracket with a new idler and a new tensioner already fitted + 4PK1108 belt which suits stock crank pulley with the new bracket arrangement.
Airfreight is running slower than normal right now.....not much chance it will arrive before the end of January.

If you want to buy the items yourself in USA then order 92252927 & 92244381.

Suckerpunchu

01-16-2013, 10:04 AM

Just sent paypal order for this Kit. :thumbsup:

If you order from me you just send a paypal for US$210 and you get DEAL45R shipped by Airfreight to your door.
[You'll get the new bracket with a new idler and a new tensioner already fitted + 4PK1108 belt which suits stock crank pulley with the new bracket arrangement.
Airfreight is running slower than normal right now.....not much chance it will arrive before the end of January.

If you want to buy the items yourself in USA then order 92252927 & 92244381.

Crazy Paul

01-16-2013, 10:12 AM

Just sent paypal order for this Kit. :thumbsup:
Received all OK thanks. Your sunshade will travel in it's own box....I'll get both boxes shipped 8Hrs from now.

fixem2

02-25-2013, 02:06 PM

Paypal sent for 45R

Crazy Paul

02-25-2013, 02:32 PM

Paypal sent for 45R
Received all OK thanks. I'll ship today for you & e-mail you the details.

Troy TrackBeast

03-12-2013, 04:25 AM

Paul, Just sent you payment for the 45R + 4PK1108

Thanks!

Crazy Paul

03-12-2013, 07:41 AM

Paul, Just sent you payment for the 45R + 4PK1108
Thanks!
Received all OK thanks Troy, will ship out 12Hrs from now.
ETA about 14 days.

fixem2

03-12-2013, 07:56 AM

Recieved mine Friday, nice and shiny!!

12Bstormtrooper

03-31-2013, 10:07 AM

OP is price shipped still the same?

Crazy Paul

03-31-2013, 10:29 AM

OP is price shipped still the same?
YES & YES I have a few in stock.

Chewy

03-31-2013, 12:36 PM

I need one Paul! Tell me what you need from me!

Sent from my miniaturizer via tap dancing...

Crazy Paul

04-02-2013, 03:18 AM

I need one Paul! Tell me what you need from me!
Transaction all complete, items shipped out today for you.

Chewy

04-02-2013, 04:49 AM

Transaction all complete, items shipped out today for you.

Awesome thanks!

ZiM

04-10-2013, 09:06 AM

Got mine in a few months back, installing it today as its finally spring and almost freaking 80 degrees today.....we literally went from turning heat off last night to ac on today!

Thanks for the cool keychain CP!

billtherealtor

05-26-2013, 06:22 AM

Living in Florida I think I use my A/C just about everyday of the year. I threw my belt a few times and found the fix from Paul it was a easy install and glad I did. I am glad to find this forum and crazy Paul since I have bought many items from him.

SpeedRacerX

05-30-2013, 08:28 AM

TSB Posted Here: http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=36896&p=529534#post529534

I had this done today at my dealer. Took about 3 hours. They also changed my harmonic balancer which I always thought wobbled too much.

Mr09G8GT

06-10-2013, 06:15 AM

Hey Paul, I have been having issues witih this as well and it finally got worse. It knocked off the main belt which caused my car to overheat and blow the radiator hose. It has also broken pieces off the ac pulley which ill need to buy as well. I would like to order the pulley fix. Please pm me when you get a chance.

Crazy Paul

06-11-2013, 02:43 PM

Please pm me when you get a chance. Shipped the new bracket and belt yesterday for you.

reanimated

06-30-2013, 01:51 PM

I just sent my PayPal order for this awesome deal. Funny little story to go with it:

I've been incredibly busy and preoccupied so when my AC went out I really didn't stop to think about it, I just thought I would take it over to the dealer and they would fix me right up. After dropping the car off, I get the phone call -- it's bad news, the mechanic ran a test and it's the compressor that's leaking so I need a new compressor, tensioner, and belt for about $2000. I go pick up the car and drive away on a very hot day with no AC and an appointment to come back in three days.

Then I start thinking about it and it doesn't quite make sense. I open the hood, and immediately everything is obvious. The belt is sitting right there off the pulley. Of course that's why I had no AC. It's also why I was getting a little burning rubber smell with WOT. I'm an idiot for not realizing it right away. I put the belt back on and the AC works just fine.

They obviously could not have tested anything with the belt off. They never told me the belt was thrown. They deliberately sent me home with the belt off and in a bad place, I guess laughing as I drove off. Of all the ways the dealer could upsell me work I don't really need, these jokers tried to take me for $2000 over a thrown belt that I could clearly see for myself just by opening the hood. I'm not really even angry about it, it's more just disappointment and gratitude that I caught on in time. I thought this very well known dealer was going to be a good home for my G8 and they had stopped doing this kind of stuff. I guess not.

Crazy Paul

06-30-2013, 02:11 PM

After dropping the car off, I get the phone call -- it's bad news, the mechanic ran a test and it's the compressor that's leaking so I need a new compressor, tensioner, and belt for about $2000.
Then I start thinking about it and it doesn't quite make sense. I open the hood, and immediately everything is obvious. The belt is sitting right there off the pulley. Of course that's why I had no AC. It's also why I was getting a little burning rubber smell with WOT. I'm an idiot for not realizing it right away. I put the belt back on and the AC works just fine.

This is who you need to inform about fraud like that.
http://www.forum.grrrr8.net/member.php?u=8081

reanimated

07-02-2013, 05:27 PM

Thank you Paul, I will do that.

EMax

07-05-2013, 06:02 AM

Paypal money and email message sent.

Crazy Paul

07-05-2013, 06:28 AM

Paypal money and email message sent.
Received thanks and I replied to your e-mail.

Crazy Paul

07-12-2013, 03:35 AM

12th JULY 2013
THERE ARE NO MORE GOOD BRACKETS (92252927) AVAILABLE FROM AUSTRALIA.
HOLDEN RAN OUT IN MARCH 2013.
C.P. RAN OUT AT THE END OF JUNE 2013.
NEW STOCK FROM HOLDEN WITH ETA 26th JUNE DID NOT ARRIVE, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO EVER ARRIVE.
HOLDEN ARE FINDING A NEW SUPPLIER.....THIS WILL TAKE HALF A YEAR TO SORT OUT.

Those of you who had paid for the expected late June stock are in the process of being refunded in full via Paypal.
Send me an e-mail if you have any questions pjsadler@iinet.net.au

Crazy Paul

07-13-2013, 09:44 PM

Here's a brief summary of what happened.

92252927 bracket has been solving problems for years with no issues.
Suddenly another bracket 92250227 comes along and somebody at the head of the supply chain decides that it can replace the 92252927 in the stores system.
Stock of the GOOD bracket was allowed to dwindle to zero & all the shelves were stocked with the BAD bracket.
Several times I'd order GOOD brackets and they'd be substituted with the BAD part.
Very tired of receiving useless parts I showed everybody I knew in the local supply chain back in March 2013 exactly why the BAD brackets would not work on pre 2012 VE V8 cars.
Meanwhile I bought up all the GOOD brackets I could still find.

The reason is unclear but whatever stock of new GOOD brackets that was supposed to arrive at the end of June did not happen.
Again in early July 2013 people tried to sell me the BAD brackets.
It was explained once more that the 92250227 brackets will not fit.
I provided the below pics to everyone I know in the supply chain.
Finally at the end of the first week in July the message got thru & word came back that Holden were now currently looking for a new supplier of GOOD brackets.

==================
SO, JUST CHECK ANY BRACKET YOU RECEIVE & MAKE SURE FOR A PRE 2012 VE V8 THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE BRACKET CASTING & PART NUMBER 92250227.
=================

Part Number 92252927 with Casting Number 92252928 will fit.
Part & Casting Number 92250227 will not fit.
The change point is 21/02/2012 - BL531318
Only cars after this vin or/date including the new VF can run with the 92250227

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/PwwX1010270_zpsc672eeb6.jpg (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/PerthPurplePenguin/media/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/PwwX1010270_zpsc672eeb6.jpg.html)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/Pw1010271_zpseb01556c.jpg (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/PerthPurplePenguin/media/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/Pw1010271_zpseb01556c.jpg.html)

Crazy Paul

12-03-2013, 12:11 AM

EDIT-December 3rd 2013
Brackets are finally available again. I have new stock of the good bracket 92252927!!!!!

hflores3

12-03-2013, 03:34 AM

I must have one of the "good ones" --- IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM!!!

Crazy Paul

12-03-2013, 10:13 AM

I must have one of the "good ones" --- IT WORKS LIKE A CHARM!!!
Yes, I've heard no complaints from anyone about the A/C belt throwing fix brackets (92252927).

(None of the brackets which won't fit G8 V8 made it past initial inspection at my suppliers front counter).

Crazy Paul

12-14-2013, 03:50 PM

USA stock is now available, packaged and ready to be shipped out of Florida.
3 sets with belt & 3 sets without belt.

G8V8

12-15-2013, 03:27 PM

They are scheduled for delivery tomorrow, Monday, so there is no reason for having to live with thrown A/C belts.

dru21281

12-24-2013, 06:31 PM

May be ordering this soon, looks like a great fix/update at a good price!

G8V8

12-25-2013, 06:18 AM

I have them in stock in Jacksonville.

LBV

01-26-2014, 08:27 AM

While emptying out my catch-can I noticed that my A/C belt is off again (2nd time) and there was a good sized knick meaning I cut it through make removal easier.

Anyway, I've had enough ... I need the new bracket and a new sized belt ... is the good part # 92252927 for the bracket?

What's the belt part #? I'm sure it's up there somewhere but I don't wanna lose what I just typed to go back.

Who do I paypal and how much to Toronto, Canada?

Thx

Crazy Paul

01-26-2014, 01:47 PM

Anyway, I've had enough ... I need the new bracket and a new sized belt ... is the good part # 92252927 for the bracket?
What's the belt part #? I'm sure it's up there somewhere but I don't wanna lose what I just typed to go back.
Who do I paypal and how much to Toronto, Canada?
Thx
You're currently in Post#100 of this thread. Post #01 of this thread contains the Part Numbers and Paypal info.
I'll PM you a price to Airfreight you a kit directly from Perth to Toronto.

reanimated

01-31-2014, 01:52 PM

I was one of those who had actually placed an order just before the Holden screw-up. I finally just ordered mine and received it right away.

Thanks a lot Paul, this is a real lifesaver!

Rylos

03-07-2014, 05:54 AM

Paul,

Sent you a PM about a kit with belt. I threw my belt yesterday and want to go ahead and fix it now rather than later.

Chewy

03-07-2014, 06:00 AM

Fix it right! Not use a smaller belt like some on FB like to do.

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Crazy Paul

03-07-2014, 07:32 AM

Paul,
Sent you a PM about a kit with belt. I threw my belt yesterday and want to go ahead and fix it now rather than later.

Fix it right! Not use a smaller belt like some on FB like to do.
I had a guy from Sydney contact me yesterday....he's bought and thrown 6 belts. By my calculation he's spent more on belts alone than the bracket fix and new belt will cost him total shipped.
[Other people have thrown a lot less than 6 belts and caused damage to cam sensors, A/C compressor pullies, expensive items to replace].

LBV

04-12-2014, 02:25 PM

Just put mine on and it's not a difficult job, just requires patience to get to all of the bolts ... will require different length 13mm & 15mm sockets as well as a couple of same size ratcheting wrenches.

The bolts that attach the a/c compressor to the bracket are 13mm and the ones that attach the bracket to the engine are 15mm. On my LS3 6.2 there were 3 13mm and 5 15mm bolts with the 2 shorter 15mm going on top of the bracket (those 2 were a pain).

You'll need access from the top as well as the bottom so remove your stock intake and engine cover as applicable to get your hands down there.

The serpentine belt as well as the a/c belt (if yours is still on, lol) will need to be removed. You'll need a suitable tool to attach to the idler pulley to loosen the slack ... I suppose a ratchet will do. Note down how the belts are routed so you can re-install later.

You'll need to remove the under car plastic shrouding that attaches to the front bumper ... there'll be the need to remove 3 plastic grommet things from each side in front of the tires, then 3 13mm silver bolts from the bottom and 4 or so little screws (7mm I think). You can wiggle it towards the back of the car to take it out after popping each side down by the tires.

I believe the 6.0 engine brackets are different so take a look and go at it until the compressor is off from the bracket and then the bracket off from the engine. The compressor will not fall as it's got a/c lines attached to it ... it did get in the way of bolt removal (esp that top one that's recessed) but I wiggled it enough to get the job done.

Note how the old one came out and slide the new one in and attach the bracket to the engine with the 15mm bolts and then the compressor to the bracket with the 13mm bolts.

Put the a/c belt on first and then the serpentine belt. I thought Paul sent me the wrong A/C belt but the idler pulley moved way more than I expected and it went on just fine.

The plastic shrouding was a PITA to push back in enough to line the holes back up until I realized the front lip of the shrouding was hitting against another lip. Out came the hacksaw to trim that shrouding lip down all the way and it slipped back just fine ... it's hidden so no worries there btw.

In all it took me 4 hrs but the last 45 mins or so was on that damn shrouding.

An extra set of hands would help at times but I did it on my own.

Thx Paul for a quick reply within a half hour when I enquired about the belt size! I tried and had it on by the time he replied but it was 7am there when he replied.

I started it up and checked and all was aok and the a/c blew nice and cold again!

Chewy

04-12-2014, 02:34 PM

I'm putting mine on my buddies hoist next Saturday to do this and the trans pan. Thanks for the directions.

Sent from my miniaturizer via tap dancing...

Crazy Paul

04-12-2014, 02:41 PM

Thx Paul for a quick reply within a half hour when I enquired about the belt size! I tried and had it on by the time he replied but it was 7am there when he replied.
It was actually 5am Sunday morning here.
Glad you're happy with everything.

TooManyHobbies

04-16-2014, 10:49 AM

Just Paypaled. I have only thrown the belt once, but that has caused me to remove the belt everytime I go to the track. Going to take care of this when I do the 8 rib conversion.

LBV

04-16-2014, 04:52 PM

Here's a pic of the 2 brackets side-by-side with black lines next to the 15mm bolts ...

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t451/LBVSVT/dd4dae20-a038-4b54-ac85-dfb7a574502d_zps5e81b165.jpg

missan nissan

05-05-2014, 10:24 AM

Paul,
Can I still get one of these brackets.... like everyone else i lost a belt

roman1978

05-05-2014, 11:10 AM

Paul my car was throwing belt so my mechanic replaced just the tensioner. You don't think that's a good ide ?

Eidolon

05-05-2014, 11:38 AM

Paul my car was throwing belt so my mechanic replaced just the tensioner. You don't think that's a good ide ?
Replacing the tensioner is necessary to keep the belt from immediately throwing if you don't replace the bracket. In the end, it's still only a temporary fix, though. Replacing the bracket is the only way to knock out the issue permanently.

Chewy

05-05-2014, 11:54 AM

^^^agree with Kevin^^^

Some guys swear by sticking on a smaller belt but the fact is, this belt could come off and break the compressor pulley or cam sensor and leave you, HOT! ;)

roman1978

05-05-2014, 12:16 PM

how is it going to break the cam sensor ? just curious also the car is drivable

Eidolon

05-05-2014, 12:35 PM

how is it going to break the cam sensor ? just curious also the car is drivable
He's talking about a violent break where the belt takes something with it in its death throes. Chances of that are increased when the belt is stretched more tightly, since there's more energy to disperse. He's not saying your car is already toast.

Long story short, Paul's bracket is your best bet.

roman1978

05-05-2014, 12:43 PM

got you thanks

Crazy Paul

05-05-2014, 01:02 PM

Paul,
Can I still get one of these brackets.... like everyone else i lost a belt
Yes, a shipment of 8 brackets and belts just arrived in Florida today.
Plenty to go around at the moment.

Crazy Paul

05-05-2014, 01:09 PM

Some guys swear by sticking on a smaller belt but the fact is, this belt could come off, break your cam sensor and leave you stranded. Not to mention, HOT! ;)
A broken cam sensor won't leave you stranded. The car will still start and run with no cam sensor at all. You can unplug it and the only ill effect will be longer cranking time for the initial start and then random backfires here and there.
The major wallet-busting consequence of a thrown A/C belt would be damage to the A/C pulley. Plenty of people have cracked away the front of the compressor pulley, which isn't a seperately available part.
Broken A/C pulley below.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/broken-pulley_zps8126fdff.jpg (http://s2.photobucket.com/user/PerthPurplePenguin/media/car%20parts/AC%20belt%20fix/broken-pulley_zps8126fdff.jpg.html)

Chewy

05-05-2014, 01:31 PM

OK, good to know! I changed my initial post. Either way, I replaced it! It's a two hour job with plenty of B.Sing time in there with a buddy... Probably an hour job now that we've done it. lol

cbman18j

06-15-2014, 10:25 AM

Thanks Paul for the belt and bracket. I haven't installed it yet but now my A/C belt will come with just heavy acceleration. I guess I can't keep putting the install off.

Crazy Paul

06-15-2014, 12:35 PM

Thanks Paul for the belt and bracket. I haven't installed it yet but now my A/C belt will come with just heavy acceleration. I guess I can't keep putting the install off.
You're welcome. There's currently more than 6 bracket and belt sets in stock in FL and delivery time to most places is less than 4 days. There's less reason than ever for anyone to delay installing the A/C belt throwing fix.

Chewy

06-16-2014, 04:07 AM

I have yet to toss a belt with the new assembly on my car and it would before. The AC is cold as well! Is there anything better than a high HP car that's comfortable? I think not! :)

cbman18j

06-22-2014, 03:57 PM

I finally installed the bracket today. That one center bolt that is recessed was a pain to get out because it is located so that you can't get you socket on it easily unless you decharge the ac and remove the compressor which i did not do. Other than that not a bad install.

264HSV

07-07-2014, 05:07 PM

Paul, will this fit my 2009 series II WM Grange? 6.2 LS3. Cheers bro.
Stewie.

Chewy

07-07-2014, 05:10 PM

Paul, will this fit my 2009 series II WM Grange? 6.2 LS3. Cheers bro.
Stewie.

Fit my LS3.

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Crazy Paul

07-07-2014, 07:03 PM

Paul, will this fit my 2009 series II WM Grange? 6.2 LS3. Cheers bro.
Stewie.
So much conflicting info in your car description that It's difficult to tell if you already have the revised A/C bracket fitted or not.
Yes the bracket will fit all Holden and HSV V8 cars manufactured 2007 till 2012.
VE Series2 Holden V8's ( which means model years 2010 to 2012) already had the good bracket fitted from factory.
Grange is an HSV product and HSV use E2 as their label to distinguish a converted Holden Series2.
Email me your VIN and I'll check your cars' date of manufacture against the VIN break for having the revised A/C bracket & belt already fitted from factory.
Pricing with shipping to an AU destination will be cheaper than what you've seen above for USA.
E-mail pjsadler@iinet.net.au

264HSV

07-08-2014, 02:57 PM

So much conflicting info in your car description that It's difficult to tell if you already have the revised A/C bracket fitted or not.
Yes the bracket will fit all Holden and HSV V8 cars manufactured 2007 till 2012.
VE Series2 Holden V8's ( which means model years 2010 to 2012) already had the good bracket fitted from factory.
Grange is an HSV product and HSV use E2 as their label to distinguish a converted Holden Series2.
Email me your VIN and I'll check your cars' date of manufacture against the VIN break for having the revised A/C bracket & belt already fitted from factory.
Pricing with shipping to an AU destination will be cheaper than what you've seen above for USA.
E-mail pjsadler@iinet.net.au

Yes they came out as the E Series. Saying series II instead of E2 is hardly conflicting. I struggle to find any of the other information I provided conflicting.....it's a 2009 WM Grange with a 6.2L LS3 - how is any of that at all conflicting? It is exactly what it is and it just happens to be the second version in the WM line - call it E2, version 2 or series II - it hardly matters. Stop being so bloody pedantic. I asked the question in order to give you business but instead I get a lesson in semantics like I'm a flog who doesn't know his own ride. Well not to worry - you've just lost a sale as I've sourced the unit elsewhere.

Chewy

07-08-2014, 03:01 PM

Well there's a high road and then there's the road you took when you typed that post!

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Crazy8

07-08-2014, 03:41 PM

Seems like a slight overreaction.

Crazy Paul

07-08-2014, 04:28 PM

- how is any of that at all conflicting?
A Model year 2009 car is not a Series2 or E2.

Model Year 2009 is still a Series1 or E in the case of an HSV. These did not have the revised bracket fitted from factory but can be upgraded.

Model Year 2010, Holden Series1 (cars released after Sept 2009) most have the revised A/C bracket fitted from factory.
Model Year 2010, HSV E2 (cars released after Sept 2009) most have the revised A/C bracket fitted from factory.

Model Year 2011, Holden Series2 (cars released after Sept 2010) did have the revised A/C bracket fitted from factory.

VIN Break.
All VE V8's from 6G1EP4EH2AL419681 19/11/2009 production date onwards incorporate this fix.
(Mfg Date November 2009 is definately a Model Year 2010 car).

STL_G8GT

07-08-2014, 04:39 PM

Yes they came out as the E Series. Saying series II instead of E2 is hardly conflicting. I struggle to find any of the other information I provided conflicting.....it's a 2009 WM Grange with a 6.2L LS3 - how is any of that at all conflicting? It is exactly what it is and it just happens to be the second version in the WM line - call it E2, version 2 or series II - it hardly matters. Stop being so bloody pedantic. I asked the question in order to give you business but instead I get a lesson in semantics like I'm a flog who doesn't know his own ride. Well not to worry - you've just lost a sale as I've sourced the unit elsewhere.

You're an asshole.

TooManyHobbies

07-08-2014, 06:20 PM

hflores3

07-08-2014, 06:34 PM

drumsbh

07-08-2014, 06:45 PM

A Model year 2009 car is not a Series2 or E2.

Model Year 2009 is still a Series1 or E in the case of an HSV. These did not have the revised bracket fitted from factory but can be upgraded.

Model Year 2010, Holden Series1 (cars released after Sept 2009) most have the revised A/C bracket fitted from factory.
Model Year 2010, HSV E2 (cars released after Sept 2009) most have the revised A/C bracket fitted from factory.

Model Year 2011, Holden Series2 (cars released after Sept 2010) did have the revised A/C bracket fitted from factory.

VIN Break.
All VE V8's from 6G1EP4EH2AL419681 19/11/2009 production date onwards incorporate this fix.
(Mfg Date November 2009 is definately a Model Year 2010 car).
Kudos to CP for taking the high road and not getting caught up in this. Nice work. You Sir will continue to have my business.

pokey

07-08-2014, 07:33 PM

.. and my business also.

GOTTA B FAST

08-09-2014, 04:41 AM

If this has been addressed already, someone please just reference the appropriate link. I've noticed lately a slight rattling/vibrating noise at highway speeds. When I let off on the accelerator, or turn off the A/C, the noise goes away. Is this a symptom of what this fix addresses? I have an '08 G8 GT.

Crazy Paul

08-09-2014, 04:48 AM

Is this a symptom of what this fix addresses? I have an '08 G8 GT.
No.
It's called a belt throwing fix because it fixes a problem with the A/C belt being thrown off it's pulleys.
End of Story.

GOTTA B FAST

08-09-2014, 04:59 AM

Wow, sorry if I touched on a sore subject. I was just reading through and thought the slight ratting/vibrating noise I've been hearing from my engine compartment might have been a symptom of what your product fixes. And, of course, being a previous customer, I would gladly give you more business.

joemomma

08-09-2014, 07:33 AM

When I read this I automatically had a British accent going and not an Aussie one.

That's funny! Me too.. :)

I've purchased numerous parts from CP :) and he's the man!

firefighter

08-26-2014, 06:00 PM

Crazy Paul

08-26-2014, 06:34 PM

Out of curiosity is this not a problem with domestic LS motors? The other day I noticed the A/C Belt is set up the same on my Camaro's LS3. I had never heard of this belt throwing issue until the G8 came into my garage.

Camaro and G8 use a different compressor and compressor mounting bracket.....in stock form the G8 V8 A/C belt is 5 3/8" longer in circumference than the Camaro LS3 A/C belt.
Longer belt (without the idler in place) means a longer unsupported span of belt to potentially whip around and get flung off at high rpm.
It could also be a harmonics issue which one belt span encounters but the shorter doesn't.
[Youtube--Tacoma Narrows Bridge]
Changing to the revised Holden A/C bracket on a G8 V8 puts a new idler pulley in place and greatly reduced the unsupported span length of belt....even tho it introduces an overall slightly longer again belt.

firefighter

08-27-2014, 01:59 AM

Gotcha Paul thanks for the explanation...

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Chewy

08-27-2014, 03:58 AM

I've done several dyno pulls all the way up and past 7000 RPM and this has kept the belt right where it belongs. PITA to install, but nice to have AC when it's 90ºF outside.

xycfer

08-28-2014, 04:52 AM

I had my AC belt come off twice already...how much do you think the dealer would charge to install this new problem fix?

Crazy Paul

08-28-2014, 11:26 AM

I had my AC belt come off twice already...how much do you think the dealer would charge to install this new problem fix? Unless a dealership has installed one of these brackets before, then they'll have no idea how simple it is with a hoist and all the correct tools and a lot of common sense.
An in-experienced person may think the A/C lines need to be evacuated and disconnected and then regassed afterwards....or that there's no room to sneak the old bracket out and a new one in without removing or shifting other hardware.
1.5Hrs total is about what I'd expect from a well equiped and (experienced on this bracket install) workshop.
4 Hrs from a first timer, good mechanical experience, probably without a hoist and not every tool ever made at hand.
8 Hrs from a weekend warrior with no hoist and only very basic tools.

LDM

08-28-2014, 01:50 PM

I installed my bracket while I was doing my supercharger. I took before and after pics and the time stamps are an hour and eight minutes apart. That was laying on the floor with the front of the car up on jack stands. I'd hope a professional with a lift could do it in an hour and a half.

Crazy Paul

08-28-2014, 04:13 PM

I took before and after pics and the time stamps are an hour and eight minutes apart. That was laying on the floor with the front of the car up on jack stands.
That's about the best time anyone has reported back with.
You're one of the best planners and organizers on this Forum and have all the tech resources, smarts, and experience.....so it's no surprise to me.
:)

LDM

08-28-2014, 04:27 PM

That's about the best time anyone has reported back with.
You're one of the best planners and organizers on this Forum and have all the tech resources, smarts, and experience.....so it's no surprise to me.
:)

To be fair, that time didn't include jacking the car up, since I already had it in the air to install the flywheel holder, nor lowering it down, since I had other things to do under there. However a lift should make quick work of those steps.

Chewy

08-29-2014, 04:29 AM

Oh gosh, 8 hours if you've never held a wrench maybe, but it took us a little over an hour but that's with a bunch of buddy bullshit time and F'ing around. We did it on a hoist at the same time we installed the Camaro pan and filter.

Crazy Paul

08-29-2014, 10:32 AM

Oh gosh, 8 hours if you've never held a wrench maybe,
There's plenty of those people about, there's entire Forums of them.
Guy probably only had a brick, a Swiss army knife, and a Primary school education to work with.

PuckMercury

09-22-2014, 10:53 AM

Did this yesterday on my GXP w/ 2300 Maggie. While it was not an issue initially w/ the stock bracket, it started throwing belts every time I would get on the throttle. No issues since. A word on install, I purchased the ratcheting wrenches after reading some other install stories but only ended up using it on one bolt. While I heard the top two 15mm were the biggest bitch, for me it was the one recessed bolt behind the A/C compressor. The whole process was about 4 hours for me solo including a couple breaks in there to rest my hands/arms. Over an hour was spent on that one bolt between in/out I would say. Not sure what I may have missed in easier routes, but I could not wiggle that A/C any further out of the way and barely got my 3/8 drive socket in there. Also, I did not need to remove the plastic shroud in the front of the vehicle as some indicated.

This was done with a couple ramps and a steeply inclined driveway (would have used jack otherwise) and some wrenches and sockets. No hoist or anything else involved. This was probably the most complex thing I've done personally, and had only done brakes, plugs, oil etc before hand. I say that just to help others who may be considering doing this themselves decide/ gauge time and effort vs. having it done at a shop. For all the wiggling I DID do on the A/C compressor, it did require quite a bit of persuasion to re-mount the A/C bracket. I significantly dislodged it and/or bent something that required bending back I would guess.

Thanks again, Paul!

travis gore

09-22-2014, 05:03 PM

Glad that you was able to get it done. The A/C bolts are fun. Glad to see that you are still alive stranger

PuckMercury

09-23-2014, 11:41 AM

Alive and well, but out in Portland, OR these days sadly. I'll be back, but it'll be several years. Wish I could help you and Ray get his machine back in order!

For me, the A/C bolts were the easy part, it was the bolts on the bracket itself that posed the biggest pain. To any on the fence about doing this, go for it - you'll be fine. If you have enough aptitude to wonder if you can do it then you can absolutely do it in this case.

travis gore

09-23-2014, 11:08 PM

Portland wow that is a long way.

ATTAHO

10-14-2014, 03:18 PM

I have never had a problem with the belt, but my tensioner is making noise. Should I go ahead and buy this or just the tensioner since I have had no issues.

Chewy

10-15-2014, 07:21 AM

I have never had a problem with the belt, but my tensioner is making noise. Should I go ahead and buy this or just the tensioner since I have had no issues.
If you're close to stock HP levels and or don't have an issue then yes, just replace the tensioner pulley. The problem exists more when you create a fast revving engine.

KenV

11-10-2014, 04:39 PM

Just chucked my second belt since the cam swap and putting Rick's catalog into the car. Sending $210 for a kit w the stock-balancer's belt in a sec here.

RescueR6

05-24-2015, 09:37 PM

Hey i'm new to this forum.
Brought my car may 2014, currently has 94k
I've been having a few problems with my car after I had my harmonic balancer changed.
1st problems belts sounded wobbly kind of my a squeaking sound dealer just sprayed on lube. Problem came back quickly after I've just been respraying lube.

New Problems
Error code P0171 + P0174
I've already read that this code means i'm running lean in banks 1 + 2. I Will test swapping O2 sensors with the rears next weekend.
Alternator light randomly comes on and car goes into battery saver mode while driving.
I received the "service charging system" message today for the first time.
Car randomly tells me I need to change oil often when start up and turn off
I just changed my oil and filter less about 5 weeks ago barely drive the car.
All of these problems usually happen on a cold start

Could swapping DEAL 45R in fix any or at least most of my problems ?

Crazy Paul

05-25-2015, 09:19 AM

Could swapping DEAL 45R in fix any or at least most of my problems ?
No.
This "belt throwing fix" prevents the small thin A/C belt from being thrown off it's pulleys.
Usually the A/C belt being thrown problem occurs after high RPM events.
With your catalog of problems, start at the beginning of all your woes and get somebody competent to check the Harmonic Balancer is installed correctly and running true. At the same time have the entire work area around where the balancer installer did his thing inspected for any damages to cables and connectors. Visually inspect the MAF and air intake tubing, alternator, belts etc etc.

sidster

05-30-2015, 01:02 PM

No.
This "belt throwing fix" prevents the small thin A/C belt from being thrown off it's pulleys.
Usually the A/C belt being thrown problem occurs after high RPM events.
With your catalog of problems, start at the beginning of all your woes and get somebody competent to check the Harmonic Balancer is installed correctly and running true. At the same time have the entire work area around where the balancer installer did his thing inspected for any damages to cables and connectors. Visually inspect the MAF and air intake tubing, alternator, belts etc etc.

Paul can you still supply the bracket and can you ship to the UK? .Thanks