Ford FPV Falcon GT Rumored for the US; Rear-Drive Supercharged V8 and All - AutoGuide

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[Chewy]

This is HUGE for me... I'd buy one in a heart beat! Give me sync and I'll sell my child for it... lol no no I won't...

I DO want it.

Chris

[DarkPhoenix]

That's a pretty mean looking car, 5L with a supercharger would be sweet!

[Devilish34]

I'd buy that if it's not too much coin

[MoonPie]

I'd be there dude, for sure.

[laserred]

Boy that seems like an awful waste of money, the N/A 5.0 makes 412HP, and this supercharged one makes a whopping 37HP more? What's it making, like a whole 0.7PSI? I know it can be pullied differently, but you could probably get an intercooled Kenne Bell on there for a whole lot less.

[Chewy]

Heck, I'd take it with the eco-boost... I would agree that that seems like a waste. A regular 5.0 would be MORE than enough for me.

Chris

[The Yeti]

Awww crap I guess I've found my next family sedan. Dammit I wanted to have the G8 forever, but that would be a bad ass car if they can keep the price around 32k-35k. Otherwise it would be competing with the SHO in terms of price and that would suck. It sure wouldn't take a lot to get more out of that supercharger. The 5.0 is pretty bad ass in a very light mustang, but having that supercharger should really make up for the difference in weight.

[travis gore]

looks nice,but i don't care for the stripe down the side

[PostalCherokee]

Looks like a good replacement for the G8. If it happens hopefully there will be a bigger market for it.

[Darkmanx]

Must have now.

[It's A G8!]

I would trade in a heart beat!

[jeppsG8]

That is a Ford I could drive. If it has Sync.

I would guess that this could easily go to 500+ with minor mods. But that is assuming it is the Coyote 5.0 base.

[pha|anx]

Mother of God... I'll take an F6 E stick, loaded-- please!

[Crazy Paul]

Reasons why you won't see an Australian built FPV sold in USA anytime soon.

1) Poor sales figure in home market.
Sales figures show that Ford Performance Vehicles is poised to have one of its weakest years on record -- heading for a tally of less than 1000 vehicles for 2010. FPV has tallied just 847 sales so far this year. (Published : Friday, 26 November 2010)
2) The current FG platform (as seen in pic above) is at the end of it's lifespan.
3) Ford Aust have been beating their chests about exports for a really long time, New Zealand they have entered and 5% of their sales revenue comes from there for all Ford Aust cars and parts sold. Very little of those will be FPV. They also export to South Africa.
4) Where's the left hand drive design, emissions, and crash testing program? How will it be funded??(see 1). They haven't designed LHD into the FG platform or exported a single LHD car to date.
5) Exchange rate 1AUD=1USD.
6) The future of the Aus Ford Falcon platform has not been guaranteed past the middle of 2011. Many in Ford want it to disappear and become part of Ford Global with the replacement chariot for Aus being a USA Ford Taurus.

[youngrushhour]

If this ever comes over, it will be my next car. Book it.

[youngrushhour]

In regards to #4, isn't Australian emissions testing more stringent than in the US? I also was pretty sure that the crash testing was very similar as well.

[Devilish34]

Reasons why you won't see an Australian built FPV sold in USA anytime soon.

1) Poor sales figure in home market.
Sales figures show that Ford Performance Vehicles is poised to have one of its weakest years on record -- heading for a tally of less than 1000 vehicles for 2010. FPV has tallied just 847 sales so far this year. (Published : Friday, 26 November 2010)
2) The current FG platform (as seen in pic above) is at the end of it's lifespan.
3) Ford Aust have been beating their chests about exports for a really long time, New Zealand they have entered and 5% of their sales revenue comes from there for all Ford Aust cars and parts sold. Very little of those will be FPV. They also export to South Africa.
4) Where's the left hand drive design, emissions, and crash testing program? How will it be funded??(see 1). They haven't designed LHD into the FG platform or exported a single LHD car to date.
5) Exchange rate 1AUD=1USD.
6) The future of the Aus Ford Falcon platform has not been guaranteed past the middle of 2011. Many in Ford want it to disappear and become part of Ford Global with the replacement chariot for Aus being a USA Ford Taurus.

#5 is a kill kill kill

[SS DAVE]

it hasnt got the true cyote engine ,its the miami version with no vvt,they are making good numbers with little mods ,330 rwkw with just a tune .saying that i raced one last week and had him in the rear vision mirror at 90,so i take it that car was stock.
the fg falcon is not even close to the hsv as a total package,and only make 10 kw more than the 6.2 .id stick with your mustang its a better package atm

[Crazy Paul]

7) Production capacity.
Car production for export has to happen fast, because the journey from the Aus production line to the USA new car showroom can be 2 months or more. So ideally the minimum economically sized batch of export cars has to be produced within about a month. Current FPV production based on sales figures would be 2.5 cars per day or 77 cars per month.

As an example the first small boatload of G8's was reported to be 1500 cars. The Holden production at the time was 620 cars per day, with a 50-50 split of Holdens and Pontiac G8's. So roughly 310 G8's per day or 9300 G8 cars per month. That first small boat equated to 5 days worth of G8 production.

At FPV's current rate of production it would take 600 days to fill the same small boat. So if you don't want your new FPV in USA to be 1.8 years old at the time of puchase then the FPV production line needs a huge productivity boost. Of course that requires a substantial investment of funds to make happen. See 1).

[youngrushhour]

Let us dream.

[Slizzo]

Never gonna make it here. Among the other things Paul listed, Ford already have vehicles that are in the Falcon's market. Only reason the G8 made sense is because the Bonneville was retired, and the Grand Prix was ending the same year.

[Brock43]

The specs for this "supercharged 5.0" look alot like similar specs for the Boss 302/Boss 302 Laguna Seca, and the Boss also acheives that NA, they would have to crank up those numbers if they brought that engine here

[Crazy Paul]

#5 is a kill kill kill
The AUD value has just cruised past the USD again today.


330 rwkw with just a tune .saying that i raced one last week and had him in the rear vision mirror at 90,so i take it that car was stock.
the fg falcon is not even close to the hsv as a total package,and only make 10 kw more than the 6.2 .id stick with your mustang its a better package atm
BA and FG have been "dyno queens" now for a long time. Output on the rollers doesn't always match their official rating, often they put down more than they logically should. But it matters very little because torque management, narrow rear wheels, and car weight have until now meant that high numbers on paper don't make it to the road. I haven't seen what quarter times the Coyote FG's have been pulling tho.

[SS DAVE]

ive herd 12.2 with a tune ,theres one in sydney on youtube running 11's aparently 380 rwkw.on slicks though. my ute runs 12.5 and easily accounted for the one i saw ,he didnt want to even try a rolling start at 80 klm after the standing start run ,lol

[rmcrom]

Too bad they decided not to bring it to the US. I like that car, but aren't those power numbers on the supercharged 5.0 about the same as the NA 5.0 in the mustang?
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2010/12/ford-falcon-wont-see-u-s-shores-but-its-supercharged-5-0l-v8-might.html

[Chooch]

This if it happens will be a 45-50K car. Fords own Mustang GT nicely equipped is in the mid 30k range. Now add the fact of a larger platform, 4 doors, costs for transport to US and it adds up. And you know this wont be a stripped version with a single CD radio and cloth. It will also in that price compete for buyers of the SHO so either they really make it bare bones to be in the low 30, which will steal Mustang sales and NOT happen or make it more then the SHO currently is.

But if would I own one if I had the money and a need for a new car, and priced right, hell yeah

[Crazy Paul]

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[Crazy Paul]

Ford Falcon to ditch rear-wheel-drive
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/ford-falcon-to-ditch-rearwheeldrive-20110111-19lel.html

[travis gore]

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ouch $82k
you could buy a CTSV and have $10k left over

[BLKG8]

Looks like a Scion... Mustang and my G8 for me.

[fr_08GT]

Ford Falcon to ditch rear-wheel-drive
http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/ford-falcon-to-ditch-rearwheeldrive-20110111-19lel.html

And with that, there goes any chance of owning a 5.0 sedan in the US.

[Crazy Paul]

Ford Australia have just announced:
"FORD Australia will axe 240 jobs in coming months as it cuts vehicle production by 20 per cent due to a slump in demand for larger vehicles.
The company - which recently received $42 million in Federal Government funding - said it would cut output from 260 to 209 cars a day to “more closely align production with current market demand”

Workforce of 5000 in 2008 will be reduced to less than 3200 after this round of job cuts.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/business/ford-to-cut-240-jobs-as-sales-of-larger-vehicles-slump/story-e6frfm1i-1226039177973#ixzz1JV0VhIyV