Track w/ 5.0

[wnt2gofst]

Ok 4 passes so far. Getting better as I go.

13.5 horrible let out of it
12.9 with shitty 60
13.2 missing 3rd going straight to 5th stayed it it.
12.86 with 1.8 60

[wnt2gofst]

All traps right at 110 mph

[Devilish34]

I assume thats with your drag pack? What track?

[Devilish34]

woohoo a stanger found the track!


stanger!!!!!!

[wnt2gofst]

12.63@112.
http://tapa.tk/mu/a6cd0bb1-2c29-5252.jpg

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[Devilish34]

slow....jk :) Congrats

I know someone who has gone 12.47 in a stock auto on street tires.

[BATOYGIO]

Whats up with these 5.0s and the track results very so much. Mid to high 12s sometimes, other times 14s ....I was at the track last weekend and several 5.0s were only getting high 13s to low 14s. Good weather and track prep too....

[wnt2gofst]

Mine is fastest reported. 12.12 post slip when home

[G8GT721]

wow, big improvement congrats

[GeorgeInNePa]

slow....jk :) Congrats

I know someone who has gone 12.47 in a stock auto on street tires.

Does he post as "uncle phil"?

[GeorgeInNePa]

Whats up with these 5.0s and the track results very so much. Mid to high 12s sometimes, other times 14s ....I was at the track last weekend and several 5.0s were only getting high 13s to low 14s. Good weather and track prep too....

Simply this...

Many people can't drive.

[GeorgeInNePa]

Nice! Damn what changed? Get that 60' down?

I think he put his big and littles on it.

[wnt2gofst]

Just bigs.

Tire pressure and getting used to it.

The 12.12 was a friend driving it.

I backed it up with 2 12.47 and then a 12.23.

[Devilish34]

Does he post as "uncle phil"?

Don't know what he posts under but his name is Phil.. Real nice guy too

Edit yes thats him

[Devilish34]

Just bigs.

Tire pressure and getting used to it.

The 12.12 was a friend driving it.

I backed it up with 2 12.47 and then a 12.23.

Unless you have a medical condition that prevents you the owner from driving the time slip doesn't count for squat... :p

[GeorgeInNePa]

Unless you have a medical condition that prevents you the owner from driving the time slip doesn't count for squat... :p

Oh stop.

12.12, faster than mine and also Dave's full bolt-on G8.

Stock, with slicks.

Chew on that for a while.

[Devilish34]

Oh stop.

12.12, faster than mine and also Dave's full bolt-on G8.

Stock, with slicks.

Chew on that for a while.

There you comparing a sports car to a family car

[wnt2gofst]

I ran a 12.23. And 2 12.47s. The car is fast. He is more experienced then me. But y'all wanted average driver run mid 12s we did better


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[GeorgeInNePa]

There you comparing a sports car to a family car

Please don't cry, I don't know that I could bear it.

[wnt2gofst]

Oh he weighs 40lbs less then me


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[Devilish34]

Please don't cry, I don't know that I could bear it.

sniff I cant wait to see you put up a 13sec run

[wnt2gofst]

sniff I cant wait to see you put up a 13sec run

lol.

George want the slicks. I did need spacers.

[SpeedRacerX]

12.12 and 12.23?? Wow! Strong times for stock. Geezoo.

[Devilish34]

Waiting for Marty McFly to post his slip..

[CenTexSS]

Here's the slip. It was our friend Tony driving - he's a badass when it comes to 1/4 mile driving.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c160/JCProV/imagejpeg_2.jpg

I have it on video, working on it now. I honestly believe that car had a 11.99999999 in it tonight. Tony had a couple shakedown passes, then nailed the 12.12 lift shifting. A harder launch and powershifting could have improved the times.

Congrats to Brad too, first trip out and nails the 12.23, I'm glad you got it figured out!

[wnt2gofst]

Thanks jimmy more seat time I think it will go least 12.00

[CenTexSS]

Thanks jimmy more seat time I think it will go least 12.00

Definitely. You picked up Tony's tips really fast bro. Like I said, I really think 11.99 is possible with good weather like tonight.

[CenTexSS]

Video is live...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVexXKJvQ_E

[09gtt]

Damn nice runs. I'm getting a Kia. I can't keep modding to keep up with all these fast cars. I'm going broke.

[GeorgeInNePa]

sniff I cant wait to see you put up a 13sec run

I'll be shocked if the first few aren't 13 second runs...

[wnt2gofst]

George my first pass was 13.5. Then 12.9 then 13.2 2nd to 5th shift.

Practice makes perfect


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[Patrick G]

Crazy that your stock Mustang is now quicker than your modded G8 with a 125 shot.

[travis gore]

Nice runs Brad!

[Virus]

Brandon from Maryland Speed was getting mid-high 12's with his 5.0 a few weeks ago at MIR. The 5.0 is a beast stock.

[jimmytt6]

There you comparing a sports car to a family car

Thank you...lol

[jimmytt6]

Brandon from Maryland Speed was getting mid-high 12's with his 5.0 a few weeks ago at MIR. The 5.0 is a beast stock.

Brandon get rid of his GXP????

[jimmytt6]

Here's the slip. It was our friend Tony driving - he's a badass when it comes to 1/4 mile driving.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c160/JCProV/imagejpeg_2.jpg

I have it on video, working on it now. I honestly believe that car had a 11.99999999 in it tonight. Tony had a couple shakedown passes, then nailed the 12.12 lift shifting. A harder launch and powershifting could have improved the times.

Congrats to Brad too, first trip out and nails the 12.23, I'm glad you got it figured out!

Congrats...sure beats the hell out of my old 5.0..nice times!!!

[BATOYGIO]

Oh stop.

12.12, faster than mine and also Dave's full bolt-on G8.

Stock, with slicks.

Chew on that for a while.

Mr. don't compare the 5.0 to a G8 is comparing the 5.0 to a G8????

Besides, if you want to get technical he has most of the bolt ons the G8 had. He has a torque converter and a tune (manual transmission), the intake is much less restrictive than the G8s (CAI), the headers on those are tubular, (so atleast shorties or mids to compare to G8), both had slicks with the 12.1x passes, and finally it has 3.73s which the bolt on G8 leaders never ran with 3.73s. The bolt on G8 leaders might have broken 11s with the 3.73s and the tcm tuned to 0 torque management etc.

The mustang comes better equipped for performance out the box, the G8 comes equipped for cushy quiet rides apparently.

Don't take this post the wrong way, I don't want to be labeled as "those people" who post and post and post about how the 5.0 isnt faster than the G8, it is, but at the end of the day with all cars, whoever throws more money at it is faster, no point in comparing and arguing.

[jimmytt6]

You forgot also G8 weighs 4200 w/drive too!!

[BATOYGIO]

Well yea, that too, but that is where the difference is in my opinion.... A full bolt on G8 can see a 12.1x possibly less since no one has put high gears in a full bolt on. So Id expect a full bolt on 5.0 to see mid 11s....100lbs a tenth, 5.0 is almost 500lbs lighter right? Whats interesting is a gxp can definitely see 11s with bolt ons, so the difference between those should be very little yet the weight difference is still huge.

[GeorgeInNePa]

Mr. don't compare the 5.0 to a G8 is comparing the 5.0 to a G8????

Besides, if you want to get technical he has most of the bolt ons the G8 had. He has a torque converter and a tune (manual transmission), the intake is much less restrictive than the G8s (CAI), the headers on those are tubular, (so atleast shorties or mids to compare to G8), both had slicks with the 12.1x passes, and finally it has 3.73s which the bolt on G8 leaders never ran with 3.73s. The bolt on G8 leaders might have broken 11s with the 3.73s and the tcm tuned to 0 torque management etc.

The mustang comes better equipped for performance out the box, the G8 comes equipped for cushy quiet rides apparently.

Don't take this post the wrong way, I don't want to be labeled as "those people" who post and post and post about how the 5.0 isnt faster than the G8, it is, but at the end of the day with all cars, whoever throws more money at it is faster, no point in comparing and arguing.

My post is more directed at those who say that "normal" Mustang" and "everyday Joes" won't be in the mid12s.

I had 3.70s at the end. The butt dyno said they were a lot faster. Even taking into account the shifting problems in the run, it wasn't.

[BATOYGIO]

Oh I never saw any posting of the geared runs. I was always so curious too how you would go through the trouble to get and install the gears, but sell it before you even took it to the track to see what it would do. Never knew you did take it.

[GeorgeInNePa]

You forgot also G8 weighs 4200 w/drive too!!

Oh, I didn't forget that...

;)

[fiveoh]

Mr. don't compare the 5.0 to a G8 is comparing the 5.0 to a G8????

Besides, if you want to get technical he has most of the bolt ons the G8 had. He has a torque converter and a tune (manual transmission), the intake is much less restrictive than the G8s (CAI), the headers on those are tubular, (so atleast shorties or mids to compare to G8), both had slicks with the 12.1x passes, and finally it has 3.73s which the bolt on G8 leaders never ran with 3.73s. The bolt on G8 leaders might have broken 11s with the 3.73s and the tcm tuned to 0 torque management etc.

The mustang comes better equipped for performance out the box, the G8 comes equipped for cushy quiet rides apparently.

Don't take this post the wrong way, I don't want to be labeled as "those people" who post and post and post about how the 5.0 isnt faster than the G8, it is, but at the end of the day with all cars, whoever throws more money at it is faster, no point in comparing and arguing.

I agree with most of this.... however even auto 5.0 stangs with stock stalls and gears, just tune and DR's are running as fast as MOST stalled/headers/intake/tune g8's with DR's. The weight is the biggest difference. A 3600lb g8 would run similar times to the 5.0. Just my .02.

Oh and badass times for stock with wheels/tires!

[wnt2gofst]

Mr. don't compare the 5.0 to a G8 is comparing the 5.0 to a G8????

Besides, if you want to get technical he has most of the bolt ons the G8 had. He has a torque converter and a tune (manual transmission), the intake is much less restrictive than the G8s (CAI), the headers on those are tubular, (so atleast shorties or mids to compare to G8), both had slicks with the 12.1x passes, and finally it has 3.73s which the bolt on G8 leaders never ran with 3.73s. The bolt on G8 leaders might have broken 11s with the 3.73s and the tcm tuned to 0 torque management etc.

The mustang comes better equipped for performance out the box, the G8 comes equipped for cushy quiet rides apparently.

Don't take this post the wrong way, I don't want to be labeled as "those people" who post and post and post about how the 5.0 isnt faster than the G8, it is, but at the end of the day with all cars, whoever throws more money at it is faster, no point in comparing and arguing.

my car has no tune or anything. Only thing was slicks. Saying those headers are tubular is just stupid. That what came on the car. Sorry GM didnt think of the same stuff. Same goes for the gears. They came in the car i had to switch nothing. and if want to compare it to a camaro. where a camaro with just slicks in the 12.1 range.

[GeorgeInNePa]

Oh I never saw any posting of the geared runs. I was always so curious too how you would go through the trouble to get and install the gears, but sell it before you even took it to the track to see what it would do. Never knew you did take it.

Yes, I went in May, I think, the DA was 1800'+.

The trans tune wasn't perfect, but it was close.

[wnt2gofst]

Crazy that your stock Mustang is now quicker than your modded G8 with a 125 shot.

right...But i never a true pass with the 125 shot just the 75...

[BATOYGIO]

my car has no tune or anything. Only thing was slicks. Saying those headers are tubular is just stupid. That what came on the car. Sorry GM didnt think of the same stuff. Same goes for the gears. They came in the car i had to switch nothing. and if want to compare it to a camaro. where a camaro with just slicks in the 12.1 range.

I wasnt taking anything away from you, the time your car ran stock is amazing period. The tune comment was pointing to the fact that a tune on a g8 gives it the most gains due to the tcm altering, with your car being manual, that aspect is negated. Saying the headers aren't tubular is stupid... the stock ones on your car are as efficient as midlength aftermarkets. Look at them...

Yea I agree, the headers and gears came on your car though which is a huge benefit, and GM is stupid for not doing that on the camaro. What GM is also stupid for is the extra 400lbs over the mustang the camaro has; if not for that you WOULD be seeing stock 12.1 range slips.

What my point was, with all these great bonuses stock, you cant take the same time difference into the bolt on vs bolt on world. The 5.0 wont shave over a second off that with just bolt ons like G8s do. Yea in this case stock vs stock its almost 2 seconds faster in the quarter mile, but with bolt ons, .5 is the biggest difference id expect...

[GeorgeInNePa]

I wasnt taking anything away from you, the time your car ran stock is amazing period. The tune comment was pointing to the fact that a tune on a g8 gives it the most gains due to the tcm altering, with your car being manual, that aspect is negated. Saying the headers aren't tubular is stupid... the stock ones on your car are as efficient as midlength aftermarkets. Look at them...

Yea I agree, the headers and gears came on your car though which is a huge benefit, and GM is stupid for not doing that on the camaro. What GM is also stupid for is the extra 400lbs over the mustang the camaro has; if not for that you WOULD be seeing stock 12.1 range slips.

What my point was, with all these great bonuses stock, you cant take the same time difference into the bolt on vs bolt on world. The 5.0 wont shave over a second off that with just bolt ons like G8s do. Yea in this case stock vs stock its almost 2 seconds faster in the quarter mile, but with bolt ons, .5 is the biggest difference id expect...

If he stuck a tune in it and pulled the drivers side foglight, he'd be 11.7 to 11.8

[wnt2gofst]

I wasnt taking anything away from you, the time your car ran stock is amazing period. The tune comment was pointing to the fact that a tune on a g8 gives it the most gains due to the tcm altering, with your car being manual, that aspect is negated. Saying the headers aren't tubular is stupid... the stock ones on your car are as efficient as midlength aftermarkets. Look at them...

Yea I agree, the headers and gears came on your car though which is a huge benefit, and GM is stupid for not doing that on the camaro. What GM is also stupid for is the extra 400lbs over the mustang the camaro has; if not for that you WOULD be seeing stock 12.1 range slips.

What my point was, with all these great bonuses stock, you cant take the same time difference into the bolt on vs bolt on world. The 5.0 wont shave over a second off that with just bolt ons like G8s do. Yea in this case stock vs stock its almost 2 seconds faster in the quarter mile, but with bolt ons, .5 is the biggest difference id expect...

I understand what your saying.

but same time some 5.0s are going mid 11s tune and cold air, off road x pipe only. full bolt ons few have hit low 11.teans and a few in high 10s

[BATOYGIO]

I understand what your saying.

but same time some 5.0s are going mid 11s tune and cold air, off road x pipe only. full bolt ons few have hit low 11.teans and a few in high 10s

If thats true i'm shocked, confused, and amazed.....Its tough to soak in 400rwhp (estimated with bolt ons) + 3700lbs (estimated with driver) = 10.9 but if its true...wow.

Good luck with the future runs, can't wait to see improvements once you start modding it more next season.

[wnt2gofst]

If thats true i'm shocked, confused, and amazed.....Its tough to soak in 400rwhp (estimated with bolt ons) + 3700lbs (estimated with driver) = 10.9 but if its true...wow.

Good luck with the future runs, can't wait to see improvements once you start modding it more next season.

they are around 4205-435rwhp full bolt ons. cold air, tune alone they are 397-403 range at the wheels. Next season i will be in Iraq but when i get home i will have a garage full of stuff..

[Devilish34]

I can't wait to Fuck curious georgeinndpa up at the track. Bona make stanger stew out him

[GeorgeInNePa]

I can't wait to Fuck curious georgeinndpa up at the track. Bona make stanger stew out him

I'm not fluent in Ignoramus, so I'm not certain what you just said.

Are you propositioning me?

[Devilish34]

You wish

[polo]

Something about your stanger giving him a boner?

[Devilish34]

Polo you promised not to tell

[fiveoh]

If thats true i'm shocked, confused, and amazed.....Its tough to soak in 400rwhp (estimated with bolt ons) + 3700lbs (estimated with driver) = 10.9 but if its true...wow.

Good luck with the future runs, can't wait to see improvements once you start modding it more next season.

The ones running 10's NA are NOT stock weight.... 3-400lbs of weight reduction probably. It's a badmofo car thou, kind of wish I'd waited and gotten one.

[CenTexSS]

The ones running 10's NA are NOT stock weight.... 3-400lbs of weight reduction probably. It's a badmofo car thou, kind of wish I'd waited and gotten one.

I'd assume it'd take more than 425whp to hit 10's in a stock weight 5.0. I kinda want one now after seeing in person what a stock powered 5.0 is capable of. Too bad the car seat and stroller don't agree with the coupe lol.

[GRRRR8]

Congrats Brad!

Looks like a need to meet up with you in my "family" car. :devil:

[GeorgeInNePa]

The ones running 10's NA are NOT stock weight.... 3-400lbs of weight reduction probably. It's a badmofo car thou, kind of wish I'd waited and gotten one.

I'm almost positive that Livernois didn't do any weight reduction, other than parts replacement (aftermarket exhaust, etc.).

They have all the bolt-ons, converter, plus ported heads, and upped compression (12:1 forged pistons and forged rods).

10.9s now, and Rick has said that it really needs aftermarket cams to reach it's full potential.

ETA: Race weight, 3680

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=19340&p=302973&viewfull=1#post302973


Last night, some suspension tweaks were made and several test passes were made. We ended up with 3 10-second slips and a ton of 11-second slips. The car now has over 120 track passes!

It really needs a set of cams to get the full power out of the current mods. There is no weight reduction other than removing the spare tire and jack and of course the wheels/tires. The car weighed 3,680 lbs.

Mods are:

Livernois Motorsports 12:1 Pistons
Livernois Motorsports Stage 1 CNC Heads
FRPP Manifold
Stainless Works Headers, Catted Mid-Pipe, and Catback
CAI
4.10 Ring & Pinion
Circle D Stall Converter
Livernois Motorsports 1-Piece Aluminum Driveshaft
Livernois Motorsports Dyno Tune
FRPP Springs & Adjustable Shocks/Struts
Drag Radials/Skinnies

Video taken of the camera screen by cell phone. Better video coming soon!

LELerY6SXwk

http://i540.photobucket.com/albums/gg324/LivernoisMotorsports/1092slip.jpg

-Rick

[BATOYGIO]

Yea so they needed engine work to hit their 10s, makes more sense. If a bolt on mustang can hit 10s without mineshaft DA then EVERY other sports car needs to go back to the drawing board....

[GeorgeInNePa]

Yea so they needed engine work to hit their 10s, makes more sense. If a bolt on mustang can hit 10s without mineshaft DA then EVERY other sports car needs to go back to the drawing board....

Yes.

But don't forget, just about every blower 5.0 has gone into the 10s.

;)

Or do about 3500ish worth of heads and pistons/rods.

[The Yeti]

Man the 5.0 is just dumb fast with very little money put into it. I love my G8 and the speed and comfort it presents, but that little 5.0 is something else. One did a ricer fly by to me on the freeway the other day and I didn't even bother trying to play. Just early I ran a Porche Carrera on that same freeway but when I saw the 5.0 I didn't have it in me to even try. If I was into small cars and not considering starting a family next year dare I saw I would trade the G8 in for one. I'm addicted to power now and my car is feeling slower and slower.

[Mike P]

I'm not fluent in Ignoramus, so I'm not certain what you just said.

Are you propositioning me?



This is kinda funny! PMSL.... :)



...

[Devilish34]

They have plenty of money into them... they cost more just to get them off the lot, haha!

true I bet George has almost as much in his stanger as I have in my G8

[GeorgeInNePa]

I can buy a '76 Cordoba for $500, make it faster that both of you for 1/3 of what you spent. What's your point?

My 2011, that stickered for $36990, cost me less that $33,000. Tax,tag, and titl included.

My G8 cost $30600, plus tax, tag, and title.

Someone that buys a G8 now could have less than either of you invested in the car alone.

Again, what's your point?

[BATOYGIO]

I think his point is, take it to the track already! Or maybe I misinterpreted him..lol...either way get some numbers, drag radials or not!

[Devilish34]

I think his point is, take it to the track already! Or maybe I misinterpreted him..lol...either way get some numbers, drag radials or not!

^this lol

[Devilish34]

lolzzz!! Almost out of time for the year.... I know our track is only open 1 more day.

Atco his open till mid December lol

[GeorgeInNePa]

I think his point is, take it to the track already! Or maybe I misinterpreted him..lol...either way get some numbers, drag radials or not!

Soon, soon...

[GeorgeInNePa]

Atco his open till mid December lol

Cecil too, I think.

I broke the axle in December, last year.

[-Ray-]

Soon, soon...

Ok Charlie. LOL

[Devilish34]

Ok Charlie. LOL

Might be time for a BFW

[GeorgeInNePa]

Ok Charlie. LOL

When was the last time your barge was down the strip?

[-Ray-]

When was the last time your barge was down the strip?

It's not a barge, it's a sled. Get it right. LOL

[-Ray-]

Bump for the Ford's. :)

[wnt2gofst]

I say give us two bumps...lol...

[-Ray-]

I say give us two bumps...lol...

I'm sorry, I don't want to think about you that way.

[wnt2gofst]

I'm sorry, I don't want to think about you that way.

:(


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