Vararam spy photos [Archive] - GRRRR8.net

GRRRR8

11-26-2008, 06:41 PM

Patrick and Jasen were kind enough not to keep me and all of you in suspense through the holiday weekend and here are 3 mock up photos of the system. I cant wait!!

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/charlesvanwormer/IMG_0412.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/charlesvanwormer/IMG_0414.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/charlesvanwormer/IMG_0415.jpg

GeorgeInNePa

11-26-2008, 06:47 PM

There's gonna be a shitload of used RF's for sale...

GRRRR8

11-26-2008, 06:48 PM

Yup! There goes my lower panel mod!

Kermit

11-26-2008, 06:55 PM

Any clue on what the price may be? Don't know if I want to jump on the new Era OTR intake special or take my chances and wait on this.
OOOH the humanity!!!! :hang:

GRRRR8

11-26-2008, 06:57 PM

If you go to there site all there stuff is $350-400.

jbradG8GT

11-26-2008, 07:07 PM

Just to let everyone know...Patrick will be modifying a couple things on the box and should have something next week that we can test.

99-LS1-SS

11-26-2008, 07:07 PM

It seems like the towel might get caught in the pulleys...:blink:

jbradG8GT

11-26-2008, 07:10 PM

we strapped it down.....ha

99-LS1-SS

11-26-2008, 07:12 PM

Ah, cool...lol

wreckwriter

11-26-2008, 07:14 PM

Seems the hood would hit it. Obviously it won't I guess. Bulkier than I expected too.

GRRRR8

11-26-2008, 07:14 PM

The towel is for all that HP you will be slobbering over! LOL

99-LS1-SS

11-26-2008, 07:15 PM

The towel is for all that HP you will be slobbering over! LOL

lol! I'm going to have to put a sticker under my hood that says, "No drooling"!!

GRRRR8

11-26-2008, 07:19 PM

GRRRR8 disposable bibs available in matching car colors. :hmm:

jetttstream

11-26-2008, 07:59 PM

I have to say it looks pretty good.

I was never a fan of the tri-power thing myself..but this design does look good. Thumbs up!

-Mike

GTPprix

11-26-2008, 08:40 PM

Looks pretty crazy, where does the MAF go? Definately gonna need a retune with that intake tract but it should flow pretty nicely.

GRRRR8

11-26-2008, 08:42 PM

Looks pretty crazy, where does the MAF go? Definately gonna need a retune with that intake tract but it should flow pretty nicely.

MAF in front of the throttle body.

It's A G8!

11-26-2008, 09:09 PM

Are they going to be a sponsor here? If so, are we getting a discount on these?

GM_Fan

11-26-2008, 09:40 PM

What are the claimed performance gains?

Looks interesting.

GeorgeInNePa

11-26-2008, 09:42 PM

What are the claimed performance gains?

Looks interesting.

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?p=21323#post21323

GM_Fan

11-26-2008, 09:44 PM

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?p=21323#post21323

Thanks, and looks to like some decent gains.

bwooten492

11-26-2008, 10:01 PM

Hrmmm someone want to buy a NEP CAI off of me? lol

GRRRR8

11-27-2008, 06:23 AM

Are they going to be a sponsor here? If so, are we getting a discount on these?

Yes they are a sponsor and I am waiting for final testing/fitting and then we will do a special.

Panther 2

11-27-2008, 07:12 AM

Any air flow numbers on this product compared to the Rotofab and New Era CAI ? Does the towel have their company logo on it?

GRRRR8

11-27-2008, 07:54 AM

Any air flow numbers on this product compared to the Rotofab and New Era CAI ? Does the towel have their company logo on it?

LOL! So far the #s are at 100+ % efficiency.

wreckwriter

11-27-2008, 08:02 AM

You can all thank me for this flurry of new intakes. If I hadn't just bought a new RF radiator cover none of this would have happened. Yes, I can also make it rain by washing my car.

As for me, I'm holding tight on the intake for the moment until I figure out if I'll be going ProCharger or Nitrous.

99-LS1-SS

11-27-2008, 08:21 AM

Yes they are a sponsor and I am waiting for final testing/fitting and then we will do a special.

I shall be anxiously awaiting this time.

Kermit

11-27-2008, 09:25 AM

You can all thank me for this flurry of new intakes. If I hadn't just bought a new RF radiator cover none of this would have happened. Yes, I can also make it rain by washing my car.

Well thank you for the intake frenzy. As for the rain, maybe I have a bit of your magic too. Maybe together we can make all the birds that like to aim for our cars disappear. :drunk2:

GeorgeInNePa

11-27-2008, 11:40 AM

Charlie, if you get a chance, mention to them that having an adapter to have this work with a Maggie would be beneficial.

Crazy Paul

11-27-2008, 03:55 PM

Here's some measurements of the Holden VE Radiator Cover.
It may fit in there to tidy up some of the void zone.

http://picsorban.com/upload/r1010427.jpg

GRRRR8

11-27-2008, 05:41 PM

Charlie, if you get a chance, mention to them that having an adapter to have this work with a Maggie would be beneficial.

I really think it will right now with a different silicone hose between MAF and Maggie.

99-LS1-SS

11-27-2008, 05:57 PM

Charlie, got any estimates on when you'll have definitive results? Think it will be next week or maybe later? I'm not in a hurry just curious.

GRRRR8

11-27-2008, 06:03 PM

Charlie, got any estimates on when you'll have definitive results? Think it will be next week or maybe later? I'm not in a hurry just curious.

They should be testing on Jasens car mid next week. The holiday threw a wrench in getting some stuff done. Once his is tested, then it will be the tests on a modded car (mine).

99-LS1-SS

11-27-2008, 06:04 PM

Cool. Yeah like I said, I'm not in a hurry. If I had one now all I could do is stare at it. lol

GRRRR8

11-27-2008, 06:29 PM

Cool. Yeah like I said, I'm not in a hurry. If I had one now all I could do is stare at it. lol

I know you want something to keep the CAGS company so it wont be lonely.

99-LS1-SS

11-27-2008, 06:36 PM

I know you want something to keep the CAGS company so it wont be lonely.

LMAO! Sad thing is your probably right.

GRRRR8

11-27-2008, 06:40 PM

LMAO! Sad thing is your probably right.

Next it will be ARH to keep them company and a Maggie to keep them company and so on. I am just trying to help so when the Mrs. goes OFF on you you can tell her it was out of compassion for the lonely parts! LMAO!!!

99-LS1-SS

11-28-2008, 08:51 AM

I have a potentially stupid question related to the Vararam intake. I understand that the faster you go the more air it "rams" into your engine. Since dyno tuning is done with the car stationary, will the extra air coming in affect the engine or should the computer be able to adapt that quickly to the higher volume of air? It just seem like it could possibly lean the car out at the top of the 1/4 mile.

GRRRR8

11-28-2008, 09:13 AM

The vehicles will be tested with a high power fan in front to simulate air at speeds. when your car is tuned they will adjust the MAF calibration so it will operate like it is stock excepr MORE power. All CAIs need a tune to make the most power due to our MAF design.

99-LS1-SS

11-28-2008, 09:20 AM

I knew that about the tuning. I'm just wondering how much the fan can simulate.

GRRRR8

11-28-2008, 09:27 AM

The fan is an OK thing to use for base testing and dyno pulls, but my car will be using the new FAST wideband 02s and datalogger so it can be street/track tuned as well.

99-LS1-SS

11-28-2008, 09:48 AM

The fan is an OK thing to use for base testing and dyno pulls, but my car will be using the new FAST wideband 02s and datalogger so it can be street/track tuned as well.

Got any info on the O2 sensors? I might look into them.

GRRRR8

11-28-2008, 09:56 AM

Got any info on the O2 sensors? I might look into them.

Its only for tuning and all comes as a kit. My buddy bought the set up for my Mach 1 I sold him so I could fine tune it and now I will put it on mine to do the same thing.

It's A G8!

11-28-2008, 06:55 PM

Does Vararam tune cars?

GRRRR8

11-28-2008, 06:57 PM

Not to my knowledge, but I believe they will be doing the tune or logging for the tune on Jasens car.

It's A G8!

11-28-2008, 07:11 PM

So the tune is just to see how much hp can be had from their intake right?

GRRRR8

11-28-2008, 07:12 PM

Yes, because it will have to have the MAF tables re-mapped for max HP.

It's A G8!

11-28-2008, 07:18 PM

Who is doing their tuning?

GRRRR8

11-28-2008, 07:23 PM

Who is doing their tuning?

I havent talked with them about that. I will more then likely start tuning my car from here on out primarily due to time limitations. I have access to the FAST dual wideband datalogger system so its no biggie

jbradsh1

12-01-2008, 08:41 PM

SRG963

12-02-2008, 08:35 AM

Will the radiator need to be adjusted as with NEP's OTR?

wreckwriter

12-02-2008, 08:37 AM

You'll go with the Procharger.

If I can swing the money, probably. That's by no means certain though.

wreckwriter

12-02-2008, 08:38 AM

Will the radiator need to be adjusted as with NEP's OTR?

Please expand on this a bit. The radiator has to be "adjusted"?

SRG963

12-02-2008, 08:41 AM

Please expand on this a bit. The radiator has to be "adjusted"?

Didn't Mike lean his back?

"This kit angles the radiator back so there is a gap between the upper radiator end tank and front upper frame so air can come through there"

"You take off the 2 top mounts off , tilt it back , and it gets remounted with part of our kit"

wreckwriter

12-02-2008, 08:45 AM

Didn't Mike lean his back?

"This kit angles the radiator back so there is a gap between the upper radiator end tank and front upper frame so air can come through there"

"You take off the 2 top mounts off , tilt it back , and it gets remounted with part of our kit"

Interesting. I guess I missed that part. Thanks!

prodrive08

12-05-2008, 06:25 AM

Any more news on this intake yet??

Please!!

99-LS1-SS

12-05-2008, 06:28 AM

Yeah, I'm waiting for the final report to determine which CAI that I'm going to get BEFORE I get a car.

GRRRR8

12-05-2008, 06:52 AM

They were waiting on some parts from the fab shop to get him the room he needed for the front air intake and MAF. I will call today! :woohoo:

Chewy

12-05-2008, 06:52 AM

Yeah, I'm waiting for the final report to determine which CAI that I'm going to get BEFORE I get a car.

LOL I bought mine before I ordered my car! I had it here FOREVER waiting on it.

Mike had a deal if you bought one right away so I jumped.

99-LS1-SS

12-05-2008, 06:57 AM

Well, so far I've bought a CAGS defeater, Adams washing supplies and now I'm waiting on the Vararam. The tune will follow shortly. Headers are a little ways off though :( .

jbradG8GT

12-05-2008, 10:59 AM

Patrick just picked up the prototype parts a few minutes ago....I'll meet with him tomorrow afternoon and we'll get some pictures and hopefully have some results.

cobrakid

12-05-2008, 04:32 PM

...not taking anything away from anybody....but if you put any CAI on a certain car and tune it for optimum
performance, it is gonna pick up a bunch. Right?

99-LS1-SS

12-10-2008, 12:18 PM

Clearly patience is not my strong suit. Any new info on this thing?

GRRRR8

12-10-2008, 12:21 PM

...not taking anything away from anybody....but if you put any CAI on a certain car and tune it for optimum
performance, it is gonna pick up a bunch. Right?

It will make power, but how much is the question. My mods made all CAIs perform better and Vararam is a true ram air so it will make even more.

GRRRR8

12-10-2008, 12:23 PM

Clearly patience is not my strong suit. Any new info on this thing?

Did you get your car yet? lol I havent heard anything and have been busy with 2 other things I am trying to get done plus the whole work thing!

MANOFSTEEL69

12-10-2008, 03:50 PM

Have they firmed up a cost on this yet?

third_shift|studios

12-10-2008, 04:16 PM

jbradG8GT

12-10-2008, 06:18 PM

I spoke with Patrick about an hour ago....he'll get prototype version 3 made tomorrow. When it's complete he'll give me and Charlie a call. Should be on our vehicles by this weekend.

GRRRR8

12-11-2008, 07:53 AM

Thanks Jasen!

MGMG8GT

12-14-2008, 03:22 PM

Let us know GRRRR8! This is the intake I am holding out for if it turns out.

GRRRR8

12-14-2008, 03:31 PM

It is coming! Patrick is a perfectionist and wants it to make the most HP.

NWOG8

12-14-2008, 04:54 PM

Horsepower:)

It's A G8!

12-21-2008, 07:26 PM

Any updates? I cant wait any longer!!

GRRRR8

12-21-2008, 07:28 PM

I will call Patrick in the morning. I cant wait to see how that will boost up what I have now!

jbradG8GT

12-21-2008, 09:03 PM

Sorry guys, I haven't given an update lately. I met with Patrick Friday with another prototype. He didn't leave it on my car, he just wanted to check the fit and he was going back to work on the scoop. He wants to make sure it gets the most hp possible so he's spending alot of time on this system. BTW, I did another 0-60 time with the prototype I have on my car now and clocked a 4.98!!!! Broke 5 seconds with only a prototype ram air that's still missing about half the hp. It was the first time that I was able to take off with out spinning the tires. Guess I'm getting the technique down.

Kermit

12-22-2008, 07:50 AM

Glad to hear that things are still moving along. Is there any chance to get a hint of what the price will be? I'm holding out for this intake also if the price is not outrageous.

GRRRR8

12-22-2008, 08:09 AM

Everything we have talked about indicates $399

Chewy

12-22-2008, 08:11 AM

Everything we have talked about indicates $399

If it actually offers the kind of gains they claim I see that as a reasonable price to pay!

Chris

99-LS1-SS

12-22-2008, 08:12 AM

If it actually offers the kind of gains they claim I see that as a reasonable price to pay!

Chris

+1

GRRRR8

12-22-2008, 08:14 AM

The same as Roto when it came out and there is a lot more engineering involved it.

MGMG8GT

12-22-2008, 08:42 AM

Any chance of getting a unit to say, Vector Motorsports, so they can develop a tune for it?

GRRRR8

12-22-2008, 08:43 AM

Already talked to Kirk and that is a done deal.

jbradG8GT

12-22-2008, 08:45 AM

I'll drop my car off with Patrick tomorrow and leave it with him through Christmas since I'll be out of town. So hopefully he'll be able to get everything done faster. I would imagine the price will be within range of all his other products on his website.

NYG8GT

12-23-2008, 01:28 PM

So, this appears similar in design to NEP's OTR intake. I read that this is true "ram-air", is the NEP setup the same? Or is this better because its a closed off design and appears to have a scoop taking all the fresh air thats being directed up through nose in front of the radiator? Any idea on what kinda hp it'll make? I havent found much info from reading through the couple of threads dedicated to this particular product. Thanks :)

GRRRR8

12-23-2008, 01:47 PM

Vararam is a true ram air system. If you go to their site and look at the Vette systems it is very similiar to that.

NYG8GT

12-23-2008, 06:21 PM

Well I just hope they have some numbers out soon, Id really love a comparison between the Vararam and the NEP systems on a totally stock and untuned G8. Right now it looks like they'll be priced pretty evenly, so its all about whos gonna make the most power. Luckily Im not in the market for one till spring so there should be something to base my decision off of by then :)

stryker g8gt

12-29-2008, 11:53 AM

Yeah, as soon as it warms up, and stays that way. Hopefully they will have numbers and work the kinks out......Mean time I went to velocityair and bought some 4" mandrel pipe and fab up my own to the front corner.

Chewy

12-29-2008, 01:14 PM

Already talked to Kirk and that is a done deal.

What sucks is that I am currently running the NEP so that means I will probably have to retune for the Vararam if I end up with his. :nud:

GRRRR8

12-29-2008, 01:20 PM

That would be correct. Anytime a MAF is moved that close to the throttle body it will require the MAF tables to be adjusted.

r1owner

12-29-2008, 03:35 PM

So how does Kirk tune for that? Does he have a dyno to run a car on with this intake? How does he come up with the map?

GRRRR8

12-29-2008, 04:25 PM

He installs the Vararam, straps it on a dyno and logs some runs and begins tuning.

r1owner

12-29-2008, 06:08 PM

Chewy

12-29-2008, 07:24 PM

OK, cool, so when I get ready to mod, just let him know what I have or plan to get and he'll set it up.

Also, I guess the only way to get the TCM updated is to either drive the car to them or use the FlashXpress?

I just did my TCM today and it's super easy and WAY worth it. My ECM should be here on Wednesday. I'll just order the vararam, get the cables from Kirk and retune for it at that time.

It's A G8!

12-29-2008, 07:35 PM

^^^^ Where did you get the vararam from?

GRRRR8

12-29-2008, 07:42 PM

^^^^ Where did you get the vararam from?

"When" he gets the Vararam. lol

It's A G8!

12-29-2008, 07:47 PM

Dough!!!! Man,can you tell im ready for the intake?

GRRRR8

12-29-2008, 08:20 PM

Dough!!!! Man,can you tell im ready for the intake?

LMAO!!! I was reading and thought, "man! this guy needs a bolt-on fix bad!!!"

It's A G8!

12-29-2008, 08:29 PM

Man, your not lying!!!!! I just got chased by my wife. She was trying to get her credit card back before I max it out!!

GRRRR8

12-29-2008, 08:34 PM

At the rate your going I am going to get 2 .99 cent cheeseburgers from McDonalds when I see you! LOL

It's A G8!

12-29-2008, 08:52 PM

lMAO!!! Good thing I saved those coupons. Buy one get one free!! Will you share?

TheTugBoat

12-30-2008, 01:48 AM

what are they saying about release dates chawlie

GRRRR8

12-30-2008, 05:20 AM

lMAO!!! Good thing I saved those coupons. Buy one get one free!! Will you share?

You can have the pickles! :nah:

flomofo

12-31-2008, 05:49 PM

Running this intake and say the ARH exaust system without a tune will still provide good numbers until I get the tune later...right?

GRRRR8

12-31-2008, 06:11 PM

Correct. The tune WILL be needed and WILL make a BIG difference.

Last_ResorT_G8

01-21-2009, 10:24 PM

well its the week of the 21st soooooo... any vararams in production???

99-LS1-SS

01-22-2009, 04:56 AM

Any new updates on the intake Charlie?

GRRRR8

01-22-2009, 05:10 AM

I will be at Vararam Sat. night or Sunday to get it put on. I will be making a post shortly about some other things going on there too.

99-LS1-SS

01-22-2009, 06:46 AM

Cool. Thanks!

Last_ResorT_G8

01-22-2009, 05:11 PM

I will be at Vararam Sat. night or Sunday to get it put on. I will be making a post shortly about some other things going on there too.

The suspense Charlie... just lay it on us already lol

GRRRR8

01-22-2009, 08:29 PM

The suspense Charlie... just lay it on us already lol

If you only knew Bro! I have so much to get done on the car that I really need to get this part done so I can tear it apart and get it ready for the track.

twort

01-27-2009, 05:38 AM

can you run this with out a tune? I realize that to get the most out of it you need a tune but will have to save up for that and find someone local to tune as I don't want to go with a mail order tune.

GRRRR8

01-27-2009, 05:40 AM

All intakes can be run without a tune, BUT it can cause quirks with the car as the MAF tables have not been corrected.