So guys...

[hazer396]

whats up?

66cat you got banned from the board which is pretty gay cuz u were the only one who knew his shit..

what have you V6ers got done?
i got rotofab intake, and plenum spacers done so far..
dyno'd at about 213rwhp with just the intake.. probably around 220 now..

i want to get an under-drive pulley, headers, and install my x-pipe but i still have stuff to do..
like install my lowering springs on the rear of my car.. get a new sway bar link and either get new rotors or get mine resurfaced.. along with an alignment and a set of wheels for winter..

man i have alot to do!!!
so no modding for a while till the car is brand new.. yes i know it sucks! but what can i do...

so what about you guys? whats goin on with your 3.6L High-Feature V6 ;)

[-Ray-]

Who banned 66cat? I dont even know who he is.

[travis gore]

He is not on the members list

[Crazy8]

I think he means banned from the other board.

[polo]

I think he means banned from the other board.

Yeah, and he wasn't actually banned. He just deleted all of his posts and chose to leave, because he didn't agree with the way things were being handled over there.

[tommie]

at least he was allowed to delete all of his posts and leave... some boards get pissy about things like that...

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

I checked out the new posts over there the other day and there was nothing interesting going on. That place has gone down the tubes since they banned me and a handful of others.

[XXFire]

Agreed!


I checked out the new posts over there the other day and there was nothing interesting going on. That place has gone down the tubes since they banned me and a handful of others.



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[Seattle09GT]

There is another G8 bored?

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Lol!

[Panzer Leader]

Yes, there are those G8 Owners yet to have been enlightened. How sad.

[LowCal]

i would like to do this oneday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYoKhHpISAg&feature=related

[schwartz]

Holy Crap! Now I really want the CPR6 intake manifold.Check this shit out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-SDoTPjOXo&feature=related

[schwartz]

Another! So Sick!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b8PPYy91zk&feature=related

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

That intake should flow some massive amounts of air, that thing is huge.

[Panzer Leader]

Bring it on!

[schwartz]

It's all yours for 2 grand.I'm just trying to figure out if that's our engine in that beast.I think it said it's running low 11's.

[Panzer Leader]

Wonder if there would be a setup problem for it, considering left vs right hand steering. 2K isn't that bad. Charlie are you up for this? What other mods would be required on the engine? You have to wonder if the stock drive train can handle the power/torque. Did anyone figure out what the HP would be to the rear wheels? Imagine that hooked up to a 6 speed manual. You could really shake up a lot of Mustangs, Challengers, Chargers and Bimmers, not to mention a lot of ricers.

[GRRRR8]

If it has nuts and bolts I am up for just about anything.

[Panzer Leader]

Charlie you are the man. I will be PMing you. Have another Veterans Day Reunion in Galveston. Still need to do the Roto-Fab and hopefully the Spohn front LCAs and rear upper control arms plus better sway bar links. All dependent on Spohn meeting the release date of end of October.

[Slizzo]

Got a link to some of those Spohn parts? Already about to get to the dealer for my second set of REPLACEMENT LCAs on the car, I know I will probably be needing to do it again at some point, so I may as well fix it right when it comes down to it.

And those are some crazy looking headers on that car.

[Panzer Leader]

Spohn claims that the front LCAs will be available at the endof October. Rear upper control arms same time. I love the rear lowers, The car's rear end is like a suction cup. Check out the Spohn link on the vendors list. I called and the young lady said the end of October. There is NO comparison of the OEM control arms to the Spohn.

[hazer396]

wow this thread got huge lol

but ya i think he has more than that CPR6 manifold.. no way its running 11.2 with just a new intake manifold..

[LowCal]

nah it's cammed too forsure.

as far as the manifold goes its seems like a direct bolt on with no other mods needed for the 25rwhp gain. they have a blue vz on thier site with 445 what ever their hp is lol

[hazer396]

hmm ive been trying to look for a cam for our cars..
where the hell could i get one?

[LowCal]

more then likly the good ole land down under lol

[VE CALAIS V]

hey guys, yeah ive got the cpr6 manifold and it is a good bit of kit, loves to get up and boogie now.
other stuff done includes:
SS inductions CAI, custom intake pipe,
pacemaker extractors,
hi flow cats,
full 2.5 inch stainless steel exhaust,
VIM,
debadged,
custom grille, and a few other bits here and there

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/th_100_3860.jpg (http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/?action=view&current=100_3860.jpg)

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/th_100_3863.jpg (http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/?action=view&current=100_3863.jpg)

oh yeah im from Aussie land

[travis gore]

I like the rad. cover. BTW those wheels are sexy. Are they tough to keep clean?

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/th_100_3825.jpg (http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/?action=view&current=100_3825.jpg)

[schwartz]

hey guys, yeah ive got the cpr6 manifold and it is a good bit of kit, loves to get up and boogie now.
other stuff done includes:
SS inductions CAI, custom intake pipe,
pacemaker extractors,
hi flow cats,
full 2.5 inch stainless steel exhaust,
VIM,
debadged,
custom grille, and a few other bits here and there

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/th_100_3860.jpg (http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/?action=view&current=100_3860.jpg)

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/th_100_3863.jpg (http://s851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/Rangsta/RANGSTA/?action=view&current=100_3863.jpg)

oh yeah im from Aussie land

Mighty fine lookin' ride there buddy,nice job! Any dyno specs on that badboy?

[Panzer Leader]

Damn, different engine covers too. We need Charlie to look into some mods for the V6 engine.

[66cat389]

This is what I get for being sick the last few days, finally get the energy to get out of bed and I see this. To answer your question hazer, I got banned because a thin skinned moderator on a power trip decided to bully me for no apparent reason. So, screw 'em. I left, they got pissed I left and banned me. No big deal, probably better off for it.

Marty and I are working on relocating the IAT, but my son brought home one very nasty cold that pretty much wrecked my three day weekend. Plan to do the relocation and document everything this weekend. Other than that, not much going on with my V6.

[hazer396]

nice!
any pics of your wheels? havent seen it yet

[66cat389]

Sure, I stuck with 18's. I get to use one of my old rims as a full sized spare now, so I get a bit of a bonus in that. I know everyone goes higher, but I had to think about our winters out here and the 18's had a wider variety of All seasons than 20's or 19's do. And they fit the whole black/silver theme I am shooting for.

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae300/66cat389/g8/2010-08-10120241.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae300/66cat389/g8/IMG_20100820_095233.jpg

http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae300/66cat389/g8/2010-08-10120253.jpg

[LowCal]

ughhhhhh i wanna bite on that manifold so badddddddddd and it looks sick without the covers on too...........

[schwartz]

Cat,
Nothing wrong with 18's,car looks great!

[66cat389]

Thanks Schwartz. Hey, how is the UD Pulley working for you? What size belt did you end up going with?

[schwartz]

I can't get over how Big and juicy that intake looks.It's a must have for me,just have to put some money aside every couple of weeks until i have enough....it could take awhile.

[schwartz]

Thanks Schwartz. Hey, how is the UD Pulley working for you? What size belt did you end up going with?

It still not on(i know,slap me one).I keep thinking about my 5 year warranty.I almost feel like saying fuck the warranty like most guys on here do and slappin' it on.It's a 99" belt.

[66cat389]

I would love to get my hands on that bad boy too. Hey, I got an extra kidney to sell if anyone needs it. Just let me run a few beers through it and it's all yours.

[66cat389]

It still not on(i know,slap me one).I keep thinking about my 5 year warranty.I almost feel like saying fuck the warranty like most guys on here do and slappin' it on.It's a 99" belt.

Good to know, I was wondering about the belt size. I could never get a straight answer out of New Era. I might consider the pulley down the line.

[schwartz]

Hey,yeah good idea.could sell some blood too lol

[Panzer Leader]

It still not on(i know,slap me one).I keep thinking about my 5 year warranty.I almost feel like saying fuck the warranty like most guys on here do and slappin' it on.It's a 99" belt.

Warranty? We have a warranty?:rofl:

Not enough engine mods here in the States for the V6. Its UnAmerican!

[VE CALAIS V]

thanks for the comments guys!
Na, unfortunately no dyno runs yet.
The rims..... yeah they take ages to polish up and i have to do it all the time due to living in the tropics with all the rain.

heres a quick question, what are these UD Pulleys you guys have. i havnt heard anything about them over here. any gains to be made?

[Panzer Leader]

thanks for the comments guys!
Na, unfortunately no dyno runs yet.
The rims..... yeah they take ages to polish up and i have to do it all the time due to living in the tropics with all the rain.

heres a quick question, what are these UD Pulleys you guys have. i havnt heard anything about them over here. any gains to be made?
To find out, you will have to ship some obviously embargoed parts up here to us deprived Yanks. (Well not me I live in New Orleans).

[66cat389]

It's an under drive pulley from new era, it sounded promising but we could never get them to publish any kind of dyno numbers or even give us a part number for the belt we would need. I've only read of one person that put it on, but we never really heard back from him about his experience. Well, other than the dealership he took his car to blamed the pulley for his waterpump prematurely failing. So other than that, it was kind of a dead end. You can read more about it here. (http://neweraperformanceparts.com/default.asp?S=503&A=E&PKV=pbu1177ss20|0) They state 6 to 12 rwhp, but the guy from new era couldn't / wouldn't give us much more than that.

[hazer396]

I would love to get my hands on that bad boy too. Hey, I got an extra kidney to sell if anyone needs it. Just let me run a few beers through it and it's all yours.

Deal. lol


It's an under drive pulley from new era, it sounded promising but we could never get them to publish any kind of dyno numbers or even give us a part number for the belt we would need. I've only read of one person that put it on, but we never really heard back from him about his experience. Well, other than the dealership he took his car to blamed the pulley for his waterpump prematurely failing. So other than that, it was kind of a dead end. You can read more about it here. (http://neweraperformanceparts.com/default.asp?S=503&A=E&PKV=pbu1177ss20|0) They state 6 to 12 rwhp, but the guy from new era couldn't / wouldn't give us much more than that.

so if my water pump fails.. new era should be paying for it right?

and cat those wheels look great! i just finished my H&R install.. waiting to paint my filled license plate/arrowhead holes then wash it up and then i will post pics hehehhe

['02 ws6]

If it has nuts and bolts I am up for just about anything.

Oh yeah??!!

http://tapa.tk/mu/b8ce9af3-dd4a-d7c2.jpg

:) sorry I had to.

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[66cat389]

http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/2270/original/political-pictures-do-not-want-surprised-guy.jpg?1242277575

[66cat389]

and cat those wheels look great! i just finished my H&R install.. waiting to paint my filled license plate/arrowhead holes then wash it up and then i will post pics hehehhe

I'm looking forward to it, I always dig seeing the stuff you come up with. Both you and schwartz come up with some kick ass ideas.

[hazer396]

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/2/3/ohstopumade128465155589697500.jpg

[hazer396]

so last week,
got springs, sway bar link and got the x-pipe installed
MAN i LOOOVVVEEE the sound of that xpipe

[schwartz]

so last week,
got springs, sway bar link and got the x-pipe installed
MAN i LOOOVVVEEE the sound of that xpipe

Mid-muffler and resonator delete?Any sound clips?And what size pipe?

[schwartz]

Never mind,just read your sig.Sound clip and pipe size?

[66cat389]

so last week,
got springs, sway bar link and got the x-pipe installed
MAN i LOOOVVVEEE the sound of that xpipe

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z235/Lee614n/this-thread-is-useless-without-pich.jpg

[Panzer Leader]

Waiting on Spohn front lower control arms and rear upper control arms (Due for release the end of October) . And replacing the driveshaft, probably with a GForce aluminum one piece.

[hazer396]

well heres a pic of MOAR LOW

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs318.ash2/59860_10150260298140650_801365649_14948425_3662458 _n.jpg

and heres a pic of the shitty x-pipe installation (paid $60 for install, $20 for xpipe)
but man do i feel freedom with this thing!! i can actually feel no restriction in the exhaust!!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs404.snc4/46712_10150260298195650_801365649_14948426_4840663 _n.jpg

at first i just wanted to get a resonator delete.. but it wasnt loud enough so i ended up going back and getting the mid-muffler deleted thats why it looks so shitty and isnt one piece..
and it is a 2.25" xpipe by cherry bomb

[schwartz]

How about a sound clip?

[66cat389]

Hey, it doesn't have to look good. It just has to work well, it's not like anyone is going to go crawling under your car any time soon. I bet it sounds brutal.

[hazer396]

How about a sound clip?

waiting for my cousin to get home from work.. im gonna go over to his place he has a HD camera :D


Hey, it doesn't have to look good. It just has to work well, it's not like anyone is going to go crawling under your car any time soon. I bet it sounds brutal.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomg does it sound amazing!


and the BEST part is...
its loud, and no drone whatsoever

[Panzer Leader]

Hey, it doesn't have to look good. It just has to work well, it's not like anyone is going to go crawling under your car any time soon. I bet it sounds brutal.

Ok but I just saw the pics.

[schwartz]

With stock muffs?...or no muffs?

[hazer396]

Ok but I just saw the pics.

you got a point
and Schwartz, stock muffs! sorry couldnt get the video tonight either :( will soon tho!! i promise!

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Where did you get your exhaust done, Kmart? :surprise: I'm sorry but that looks horrible....

[66cat389]

Function over form my friend, function over form..... Doesn't have to look pretty, it just has to work. And scaring the living crap out of ricers helps too.

[travis gore]

Function over form my friend, function over form..... Doesn't have to look pretty, it just has to work. And scaring the living crap out of ricers helps too.

I agree function over form,when you can't see it! There will always be haters.

[Seattle09GT]

I agree function over form,when you can't see it! There will always be haters.

Yup. I'm still rocking the washer mod - good enough for me; hard for me to justify dropping 5 to 12 bones on formed stainless steel in my eyes, can spend the money on better things. Curse you financial responsibility; CURSE YOU!!!

[Panzer Leader]

Just put some playing cards in the spokes!

[66cat389]

Just put some playing cards in the spokes!

I demand a sound clip!

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

I agree function over form,when you can't see it! There will always be haters.
Maybe poor quality work is acceptable to you but not to me. The pieces probably aren't stainless and will rust out in no time, then he'll have to pay someone to do it again. But it's his money so it doesn't matter to me.

[66cat389]

I think it is more of a "can it be done" exercise.

[hazer396]

i can re-weld it with heat vision..
sound clip 2moro i promise!

[schwartz]

i can re-weld it with heat vision..
sound clip 2moro i promise!

:woohoo:Will be lookin' forward to it.........remember you promised!

[travis gore]

Maybe poor quality work is acceptable to you but not to me. The pieces probably aren't stainless and will rust out in no time, then he'll have to pay someone to do it again. But it's his money so it doesn't matter to me.

no I don't believe in poor quality. I just thought this was a what if I tried this "we don't care what it looks like experiment". So when you are making your parts in the garage your prototypes look as good as your finished product? I am not trying to pick a fight or debate this matter. I am just saying when you try something it may not be pretty the first go around.

[66cat389]

I am just saying when you try something it may not be pretty the first go around.

That pretty much sums up the first girl I slept with.

[travis gore]

That pretty much sums up the first girl I slept with.

I almost fell out of my chair laughing!

[schwartz]

i can re-weld it with heat vision..
sound clip 2moro i promise!

Did this ever happen??? Lost my internet for 4 days,expected to see a clip but...nothing.

[66cat389]

I have a buddy doing a V6 build. Ported heads, headers, exhaust, etc.. .I'm curious how it will turn out. He's trying to get V8 power out of it, might be close!

So I guess the question here is, where did he get the headers? Inquiring minds want to know!

[schwartz]

So I guess the question here is, where did he get the headers? Inquiring minds want to know!


Possibly not a G8.
I received an email back from doug thorley about those headers that were on ebay and this is what they said:

From what I understand the G8 is a V8 and we do offer those. We do not list them on Ebay though so it must be one of our distributers.

Sorry

[schwartz]

...i'm switching to Mobil 1.Royale Purple is too dark,everytime i check my oil it almost looks black.

[G8GT721]

^my oil is black every time and I have sent it to them 3 times. Everything is fine, except copper is a little high.


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[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Copper is a sign of the connecting rod & cam bearings wearing. How long are you running your oil and what kind do you use?

[schwartz]

You do realize the color of the oil doesn't show how much life is left. In fact dark oil shows its cleaning the crap out of your engine. If you really want to know send a small oil sample to Blackstone labs and you'll know whats really going on inside your engine instead of making assumptions.

Hmmm,interesting.I just looked it up and it say's here engine oil must lubricate,protect,clean and cool the engine.I never thought of it cleaning the engine before....i fell like an ass.I guess the royale purple is doing it's job then.

[66cat389]

I just stick with mobil 1, seems to work out okay for me.

When I bought my 66. I did an oil change after buying it, and then did another about a month later. You should have seen the sludge that came out of there, it had been sitting for a long time and the build up was amazing. I was surprised it still ran with all of that gunk in it. No blow by either, now that was amazing. I would have thought the rings would have been worn down to nothing.

[hazer396]

no sound clip lol..
i fail at life man.. :( my sister stole my camera.. my cousin's been busy.. and ive just been driving at WOT

[G8GT721]

:threadjacked:


Copper is a sign of the connecting rod & cam bearings wearing. How long are you running your oil and what kind do you use?

i use Mobil 1; 0w-40, and change between 3 and 4k miles. Below is what the said this time

KEVIN: This is the third analysis on your 6.0L and copper is still reading higher than average. While it isn't
and hasn't been a problem, at this point we suspect it will be a regular occurrence in the wear pattern for this
specific engine. From here on out unless it dramatically increases, we aren’t going to give it much more
thought. The oil was in good shape physically, containing no moisture, fuel, or signs of coolant. Insolubles,
which are oxidized solids caused by heat, use, and blow-by, improved to 0.1%, showing excellent oil
filtration. Nice report at 24,000 miles

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

You have higher than average copper content so that's not too good. Maybe it's because you're running the wrong weight of oil, you should be using 5w-30 not 0w-40.

[66cat389]

Wait, isn't 5w 30 what the owners manual recommends? I don't get it, are you saying the advertised weights aren't always the true oil weight? I am confused..... help a brother out.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Thats not what my car takes... mainly because most brands 5w-30 don't meet GM spec (some do you just have to double check, the handful I picked up on the shelf did not). Some of the 10w-30's do and some 0w-40 do as thats a Euro blend that meets a lot of specs. I would rather run what meets the spec then run whatever weight is on the label since that varies.
Your car uses 5w-30 and that's what GM recommends, nothing else. Just because the oil you buy has the GM spec doesn't mean it's the right oil if it's the wrong weight. It seems to me most of the popular oils that everyone uses has the GM spec, according to the ones you listed. I use Valvoline SynPower and Pennzoil Platinum Full Synthetic in 5w-30 weight, plus many club members use Mobil 1 in 5w-30 and they are all on your list. Some of you guys really don't know much about cars and read too much incorrect information and think it's true. Then you post the info in the club here for people to read, and now you have one member confused.

This is in the owners manual. Note the part I highlighted in bold lettering!

SAE 5W-30
As shown in the viscosity chart,
SAE 5W-30 is best for your
vehicle.
These numbers on an oil
container show its viscosity, or
thickness. Do not use other
viscosity oils such as
SAE 20W-50.

[-Ray-]

After removing the DOD hardware I'm running 10-30 Mobil 1.
My engine doesn't see Winter service. If you write it out completely it would be 5W-30. The "W" means "Winter".
If you live in an area that rarely see's below freezing temps, 5W isn't really needed. IMHO

[WickedMom]

But the way I understood it, the 10 vs 5 weight means that the oil is thicker at start up which increases wear and tear on the engine regardless of ambient temp.


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[-Ray-]

When you see a W on a viscosity rating it means that this oil viscosity has been tested at a Colder temperature. The numbers without the W are all tested at 210° F or 100° C which is considered an approximation of engine operating temperature. In other words, a SAE 30 motor oil is the same viscosity as a 10w-30 or 5W-30 at 210° (100° C). The difference is when the viscosity is tested at a much colder temperature. For example, a 5W-30 motor oil performs like a SAE 5 motor oil would perform at the cold temperature specified, but still has the SAE 30 viscosity at 210° F (100° C) which is engine operating temperature. This allows the engine to get quick oil flow when it is started cold verses dry running until lubricant either warms up sufficiently or is finally forced through the engine oil system. The advantages of a low W viscosity number is obvious. The quicker the oil flows cold, the less dry running. Less dry running means much less engine wear.

Taken from: http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

After removing the DOD hardware I'm running 10-30 Mobil 1.
My engine doesn't see Winter service. If you write it out completely it would be 5W-30. The "W" means "Winter".
If you live in an area that rarely see's below freezing temps, 5W isn't really needed. IMHO
It doesn't have to be below freezing for motor oil to thicken up. The W means that is was tested to flow like a 5 weight oil at colder temps, which can occur in the spring and fall in Indiana. As Mom stated, a 10 weight oil doesn't flow well at startup compared to a 5 weight oil, and that can lead to premature engine wear.

[-Ray-]

I'm aware of oil viscosity. I've been driving since 1969 and have not had any premature engine wear on any vehicle I've owned.
I'm not running 5W in my G8, and don't plan on doing it. If you feel you are going to have premature engine wear, then don't do it. I have enough driving history that I'm no longer concerned with a 5W oil for my driving conditions.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

They didn't produce engines years ago that had the tight tolerances that today's motors have, so there was no need for 5w weight multigrade oils. In fact they didn't even make a 5w-XX multigrade oil until recently. The LS motor is MUCH different than an older small block motor.

[HLDNG8]

sound clip yet ?

[-Ray-]

They didn't produce engines years ago that had the tight tolerances that today's motors have, so there was no need for 5w weight multigrade oils. In fact they didn't even make a 5w-XX multigrade oil until recently. The LS motor is MUCH different than an older small block motor.

I agree, but the problem with a lower viscosity oil is that it breaks down quickly from heat. A lot of G8's on this forum get used pretty hard. I think at 34k miles, my G8 has reached most of it's fast wear points. Remember, I no longer have any DOD valve train.
Like I said before, this is just my opinion. If I get concerned, I'll prime the engine before I start it next March.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

That's not true because it performs like a 30 weight oil at operating temperature, which is the reason they are called multigrade oils. Besides the viscosity of the oil has nothing to do with it breaking down, that is determined by the molecule structure of the oil. If you're concerned about the oil breaking down synthetic would be a better choice than a higher weight oil.

[66cat389]

sound clip yet ?

Nope not yet, Hazer will get it when he has a chance. I would dig hearing it too.

On the oil discussion, there are some very interesting points on both sides of the isle with this one. There is a good amount of food for thought here, but I think for now I will just play the safe bet and stick with Mobil1 Synthetic 5w-30.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Mobil 1 isn't what it used to be, they went from a POA based stock to a hydro-cracked base stock like most of the other popular synthetic oils.


I agree, but the problem with a lower viscosity oil is that it breaks down quickly from heat. A lot of G8's on this forum get used pretty hard. I think at 34k miles, my G8 has reached most of it's fast wear points. Remember, I no longer have any DOD valve train.
Like I said before, this is just my opinion. If I get concerned, I'll prime the engine before I start it next March.
The valve train has nothing to do with the lower end parts wearing, which is where most of the wear occurs. Your motor is always wearing away until the day it dies no matter how many miles are on it.

[schwartz]

Wow,look what i started.All i can say is if you ever have engine problems and the dealer finds any other different weight of oil in your engine other than whats recommended,they will void your warranty.Unless you could care less about warranty.

[66cat389]

Warranty? Hey, I'm with you. If I want warranty work done, I have to drive 54 miles west to the nearest dealership in Greeley, CO. If sticking with what GM recommends keeps me from having to drive that distance, I'm all for it. It's kind of a kick in the ass for me since the GM dealership in Fort Morgan used to be right across the street from me before GM's "great dealership purge".

[-Ray-]

Wow,look what i started.All i can say is if you ever have engine problems and the dealer finds any other different weight of oil in your engine other than whats recommended,they will void your warranty.Unless you could care less about warranty.

LOL, yes, this is all your fault!

[-Ray-]

That's not true because it performs like a 30 weight oil at operating temperature, which is the reason they are called multigrade oils. Besides the viscosity of the oil has nothing to do with it breaking down, that is determined by the molecule structure of the oil. If you're concerned about the oil breaking down synthetic would be a better choice than a higher weight oil.

At what temp does a 5W-30 become a 30 weight oil?

[66cat389]

At what temp does a 5W-30 become a 30 weight oil?

Not sure, but I did find this interesting web page (http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/)

From the page:

"When you see a W on a viscosity rating it means that this oil viscosity has been tested at a Colder temperature. The numbers without the W are all tested at 210° F or 100° C which is considered an approximation of engine operating temperature. In other words, a SAE 30 motor oil is the same viscosity as a 10w-30 or 5W-30 at 210° (100° C). The difference is when the viscosity is tested at a much colder temperature. For example, a 5W-30 motor oil performs like a SAE 5 motor oil would perform at the cold temperature specified, but still has the SAE 30 viscosity at 210° F (100° C) which is engine operating temperature. This allows the engine to get quick oil flow when it is started cold verses dry running until lubricant either warms up sufficiently or is finally forced through the engine oil system. The advantages of a low W viscosity number is obvious. The quicker the oil flows cold, the less dry running. Less dry running means much less engine wear."

[hazer396]

so no royal purple 5w-30?

and sound clip as soon as i get my hands on a video recording camera..
soon by this week.. maybe 2nite..

[66cat389]

I think 5w-30 Royal Purple is ok. GM just recommends 5w-30 in the owners manual. I think brand preferences and weights are probably best left to the individual owner.

[schwartz]

I'm using 5w30 royale purple synthetic right now.Like i originally stated,royal purple is a dark oil to begin with due to it being purple.I just put that oil in not to long ago and when i check the level when it's cold the oil is so dark i can't even see the readings on the stick.Nothing against royal purple,it's good synthetic oil,just want something lighter in color so i'm switching to mobil 1.The main reason i bought the RP is because...well....it's purple.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

At what temp does a 5W-30 become a 30 weight oil?
It becomes a 30 weight oil when it reaches operating temp, and it's a 5w oil when it's cold. And cold doesn't mean below freezing, it can be any temp below operating temp which is between 180-200 degrees. Here's some good info about multigrade oil.

Multi-grade

The temperature range the oil is exposed to in most vehicles can be wide, ranging from cold temperatures in the winter before the vehicle is started up to hot operating temperatures when the vehicle is fully warmed up in hot summer weather. A specific oil will have high viscosity when cold and a lower viscosity at the engine's operating temperature. The difference in viscosities for most single-grade oil is too large between the extremes of temperature. To bring the difference in viscosities closer together, special polymer additives called viscosity index improvers, or VIIs are added to the oil. These additives are used to make the oil a multi-grade motor oil, though it is possible to have a multi-grade oil without the use of VIIs. The idea is to cause the multi-grade oil to have the viscosity of the base grade when cold and the viscosity of the second grade when hot. This enables one type of oil to be generally used all year. In fact, when multi-grades were initially developed, they were frequently described as all-season oil. The viscosity of a multi-grade oil still varies logarithmically with temperature, but the slope representing the change is lessened. This slope representing the change with temperature depends on the nature and amount of the additives to the base oil.

The SAE designation for multi-grade oils includes two viscosity grades; for example, 10W-30 designates a common multi-grade oil. The two numbers used are individually defined by SAE J300 for single-grade oils. Therefore, an oil labeled as 10W-30 must pass the SAE J300 viscosity grade requirement for both 10W and 30, and all limitations placed on the viscosity grades (for example, a 10W-30 oil must fail the J300 requirements at 5W). Also, if an oil does not contain any VIIs, and can pass as a multi-grade, that oil can be labeled with either of the two SAE viscosity grades. For example, a very simple multi-grade oil that can be easily made with modern base oils without any VII is a 20W-20. This oil can be labeled as 20W-20, 20W, or 20. Note, if any VIIs are used however, then that oil cannot be labeled as a single grade.

The real-world ability of an oil to crank or pump when cold is potentially diminished soon after it is put into service. The motor oil grade and viscosity to be used in a given vehicle is specified by the manufacturer of the vehicle (although some modern European cars now have no viscosity requirement), but can vary from country to country when climatic or fuel efficiency constraints come into play

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

lolzzz your right... I know nothing about my car! bahahahaha

I'm glad G8 Ray chimed in and its just not me... hahaha

DRC's comments are like the kid that took one shop class in high school... can't think outside the box.

Just FYI DRC your owners manual said no SuperChips or axlebacks too, hahaha better take those off! Owners manual is always correct, hahaha
Well it's evident you don't know much about oil since you're running the wrong weight in your motor. There's nothing wrong with using a 0w oil but the 40w is way too heavy when for when the motor reaches operating temp.

My dealer doesn't have a problem doing warranty work on my car with a CAI and axle backs. I can reload the stock tune with my Superchips tuner for warranty repairs and they have never found any evidence that my car has ever been tuned. I've been around cars & motorcycles for 40 years, so I know a lot more than you think I do.

[-Ray-]

It becomes a 30 weight oil when it reaches operating temp, and it's a 5w oil when it's cold.
So it flashes to a 30 weight at 100c?
Multi-grade

<cut>

The real-world ability of an oil to crank or pump when cold is potentially diminished soon after it is put into service.

This above was my point on 5W-30. Read that line again. Heat destroys the properties that allows the oil to flow at cold temps. Unless you have your used oil tested to see how it flows at cold temps after you change it, you have no idea how long it responds to cold temps.
To say I don't know anything about cars because I chose a 10W oil is being extremely obtuse.

[66cat389]

Damn, just noticed this thread is now 12 Pages long. Way to go Hazer, you started the longest thread in the LY7 section.

[-Ray-]

Damn, just noticed this thread is now 12 Pages long. Way to go Hazer, you started the longest thread in the LY7 section.

It's only 3 pages for me. Adjust your settings. :)

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

This above was my point on 5W-30. Read that line again. Heat destroys the properties that allows the oil to flow at cold temps. Unless you have your used oil tested to see how it flows at cold temps after you change it, you have no idea how long it responds to cold temps.
To say I don't know anything about cars because I chose a 10W oil is being extremely obtuse.
It says it's POTENTIONALLY diminished, that means there's a possibility that that it can lose it's cold flowing ability. Yet you choose to run a thicker 10w oil which already is thicker than 5w oil that has been in service. Plus synthetic oil stays thinner at lower temps than conventional oil, so that decreases the possibility of it's ability to flow in colder temps.

Ray I never said you don't know anything about cars, I was referring to MGM GT. I have seen many occasions where you guys twist around what I say. Some of you really need to comprehend what you read and pay attention to what's said and who says it.

[-Ray-]

It says it's POTENTIONALLY diminished, that means there's a possibility that that it can lose it's cold flowing ability. Yet you choose to run a thicker 10w oil which already is thicker than 5w oil that has been in service. Plus synthetic oil stays thinner at lower temps than conventional oil, so that decreases the possibility of it's ability to flow in colder temps.

Ray I never said you don't know anything about cars, I was referring to MGM GT. I have seen many occasions where you guys twist around what I say. Some of you really need to comprehend what you read and pay attention to what's said and who says it.

You actually posted some of you guys. However, we were having the discussion. Then you again say "some of you", and you are quoting me. Perhaps you could be a little more specific when you are mentioning members.
I agree it says potential. There is a lot of data that shows that the material that prevents the oil from "sticking" together at colder temps loses it's properties quickly. This is caused by heat. My G8 tends to see quite a bit of WOT and warmer temps than a DD hiway cruiser. For me, selecting a 10W-30 weight oil to run in my engine with 34k miles on it will not cause any additional wear if I was running a 5W-30.
Understand also, a 5W-30 oil can test at close to 10W-30 and still be acceptable to sell as a 5W-30.
Does that make anyone feel a need to test their oil before they dump it in their performance sedan. Hell no, we take what they give us.

[schwartz]

Wow, you guys just don't stop.Anyways,i think 5w30 looks like beer...glug glug glug.

[schwartz]

Hey Cat! I got my OBD2/USB wire and disk yesterday,it arrived pretty fast.Just have to find the time to play with it.Thanks again.

[-Ray-]

Wow, you guys just don't stop.Anyways,i think 5w30 looks like beer...glug glug glug.

Sorry big guy, we have an important internet discussion going on. :charlie3:

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

You actually posted some of you guys. However, we were having the discussion. Then you again say "some of you", and you are quoting me. Perhaps you could be a little more specific when you are mentioning members.
I agree it says potential. There is a lot of data that shows that the material that prevents the oil from "sticking" together at colder temps loses it's properties quickly. This is caused by heat. My G8 tends to see quite a bit of WOT and warmer temps than a DD hiway cruiser. For me, selecting a 10W-30 weight oil to run in my engine with 34k miles on it will not cause any additional wear if I was running a 5W-30.
Understand also, a 5W-30 oil can test at close to 10W-30 and still be acceptable to sell as a 5W-30.
Does that make anyone feel a need to test their oil before they dump it in their performance sedan. Hell no, we take what they give us.

I hardly ever drive my car on the highway and drive it hard most of the time, so I doubt that your car is driven much harder than mine. If there's open road in front of me I'm WOT throttle and making the tires chirp when it shifts. I run synthetic oil and change it every 5000 miles since I do MOSTLY stop & go driving and drive my car like it was meant to be driven. Sometimes I do talk about others even though I quote a specific person so I can see how you misunderstood me.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Actually you don't know what's in my engine because I never said, but its on GM's HP Approved Oil list which I trust a lot more then your judgment.
As I told you earlier but evidently you missed it, just because you use a GM spec oil doesn't mean it's ok to use it in your engine if it's the wrong weight. It really doesn't matter to me what you run in your motor, but I don't want others to make the same mistake as you just because you think it's ok to do so.

[-Ray-]

I hardly ever drive my car on the highway and drive it hard most of the time, so I doubt that your car is driven much harder than mine. If there's open road in front of me I'm WOT throttle and making the tires chirp when it shifts. I run synthetic oil and change it every 5000 miles since I do MOSTLY stop & go driving and drive my car like it was meant to be driven. Sometimes I do talk about others even though I quote a specific person so I can see how you misunderstood me.

Yeah, I'm sure I don't. LOL
piO69RSUlY0
Mines been on Hot Rod Power Tour. Twice. Holley LS Fest.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Wait seriously? You just lost all hope... You really think you put more stress on your stock engine then I do on mine? REALLY? Your officially out of your mind!
I was talking to Ray, you read my reply before I went back and quoted him. And the amount of power a motor produces doesn't stress the oil as much as the heat from running it at high RPM's does. Unless you're running 800 hp which I know you're not.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

I'm not recommending it, GM recommends those oils for OUR engine, can you read?? Sometimes I wonder... hahahahaha
GM recommends 5w-30 with the GM spec, what part of that don't you understand? They don't recommend running the wrong weight oil, which they state in the owners manual. Maybe you should read it some time, page 9-9 covers the type of oil you should use.

[-Ray-]

LOL, I was waiting for that.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Yeah, I'm sure I don't. LOL

Mines been on Hot Rod Power Tour. Twice. Holley LS Fest.
So you ran it hard for 12 seconds then shut it down. I drive mine like that for a lot longer time span on the street. The oil is barely getting up to operating temp and you're worried about the 5w spec? lol I suppose you think a car that's run on the drag strip stresses the oil more than a NASCAR motor that runs hard for a couple hours straight on the same oil.

[-Ray-]

So you ran it hard for 12 seconds then shut it down. I drive mine like that for a lot longer time span on the street.

Actually it was 9.3 seconds. I had to slam on the breaks to keep from hitting the cones. :)

[-Ray-]

Anyway.....I'm done with this thread. Thanks guys for being patient while this oil stuff got spilled. ;)

[schwartz]

Anyway.....I'm done with this thread. Thanks guys for being patient while this oil stuff got spilled. ;)

Does this mean we can all drink beer now?

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

So me revving it to 7800 means what to you?
You have an LS motor not a Ferrari motor, so it doesn't rev to 7800 rpms. lol

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Here's the GM High Performance Approved Oil list and it says NOTHING about 40w oil. You really don't have a clue what's going on when it comes to cars and oil!

Product Name SAE Viscosity Grades
76 Super Synthetic Motor Oil 5W-30, 10W-30
AC Delco Full Synthetic 5W-30
Castrol Edge 5W-30, 10W-30
Castrol SLX Professional 4718 5W-30
Chevron Supreme Synthetic 5W-30, 10W-30
Coastal High Performance Full Synthetic 5W-30
Kendall GT-1 Ultimate Synthetic Motor Oil 5W-30, 10W-30
Mobil 1
0W-20, 0W-30, 5W-30,
10W-30
Northland, Synergy Synthetic 5W-30
Pennzoil Platinum Full Synthetic 5W-30, 10W-30
Pinnacle National Synthetic 5W-30
Q HorsePower 5W-30, 10W-30
Service Pro Full Synthetic 5W-30
Texaco Havoline Synthetic 5W-30, 10W-30
Valvoline SynPower 5W-30, 10W-30
Warren Full Synthetic 5W-30, 10W-30

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Then show me a video of the tach in a G8 revving to 7800 rpm. I've never seen one rev that high, and most guys here talk about spinning it up to 6800 or so with an aftermarket cam with standard lifters.

[-Ray-]

Does this mean we can all drink beer now?

You can. I don't drink so I'll just have a coke.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

You realize it wasn't me that brought up 40w oil right?

I thought you were the one running 40w oil since you replied to this statement I made, but now I see I was mistaken.

Originally Posted by DRCUSTOMPARTS
You have higher than average copper content so that's not too good. Maybe it's because you're running the wrong weight of oil, you should be using 5w-30 not 0w-40.


Thats not what my car takes... mainly because most brands 5w-30 don't meet GM spec (some do you just have to double check, the handful I picked up on the shelf did not). Some of the 10w-30's do and some 0w-40 do as thats a Euro blend that meets a lot of specs. I would rather run what meets the spec then run whatever weight is on the label since that varies.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

You haven't seen a lot of things. Yes most small cam cars rev to about 7k and shift at 6800 or so because that's where they make peak power. But to say an LS engine can't rev to 7800 is nuts! I know what my and many other cars can do. I don't do it often but it happens, I asked about the limits of the engine when up at RPM and they have revved stock LS2's bottom ends to 7800 for years with no problems. Some last years some last a pass, just luck of the draw.
If the motor makes peak power around 6800 I don't see why you would want to rev it to 7800 then.

[hazer396]

so is there anything i have to do before switching to synthetic?
or do i just do it like a regular oil change except add synthetic instead of regular..

[Panzer Leader]

Sounds like I am readind a blood test report. I run 5W30 Mobil 1. NO carbon or deposits out the tail pipes after 30K miles. Don't really understand that some oils don't meet GM specs. What exactly are these specs that some oils (either synthetic or dino oil) don't meet? So RP does or does not? Mobil 1 does or does not? Castrol does or does not? Amsol does or does not? Damn I am getting another headache. Guess I won't use the Dollar General Premium $1.50 a quart refined from recycled waste oil afterall.

[-Ray-]

so is there anything i have to do before switching to synthetic?
or do i just do it like a regular oil change except add synthetic instead of regular..

You can just switch. Just like a regular oil change.
Lots of lurkers in this thread now. LOL

[polo]

Lol... I've been lurking!

[schwartz]

I mentioned i was just switching from royal purple to mobil 1 at post #80,and now it's at post #153 still discussing engine oil.Damn i'm good! I think you all should buy me a MOD.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Sounds like I am readind a blood test report. I run 5W30 Mobil 1. NO carbon or deposits out the tail pipes after 30K miles. Don't really understand that some oils don't meet GM specs. What exactly are these specs that some oils (either synthetic or dino oil) don't meet? So RP does or does not? Mobil 1 does or does not? Castrol does or does not? Amsol does or does not? Damn I am getting another headache. Guess I won't use the Dollar General Premium $1.50 a quart refined from recycled waste oil afterall.
Amsoil, Royal Purple and Castrol Syntex don't meet the GM spec, but Castrol Edge & Mobil 1 does. If a motor oil has the GM spec it means they tested and approved it for use in their motors. The oils that don't have the spec either failed their testing or they never tested it. You will find the oils that meet the GM spec in post #139.

[schwartz]

Hey DRCUMSHOT!...I mean CUSTOMPARTS!....JK bro,dont be flippin'.I'm to lazy and drunk to go back and read.Just looking for a yes/no answer from you.Is Mobil 1 5w30 okay for my V6?:cheers:

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Yes it is! :thumbsup:

[schwartz]

Yes it is! :thumbsup:

Thanks buddy! Always appreciate your input.I'm out..............

[G8GT721]

Lmao, train wreck after I thread jacked. I'm the one who runs 0w40 and it was recommended by a few people since I have the twins


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[66cat389]

Yeah, I feel like a kid that's been pushed out of the kiddie pool by the bigger kids.

Schwartz, glad to hear you got your scanner. I saw that you said you got it a few pages back, I was gone for a few hours. Came back and saw this.....

http://hustream.com/images/uploads/trainwreck.jpg

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

It amazes me how some people have to make negative comments about a good discussion just because it's not what you want to hear.

[travis gore]

the oil debate continues.

oil is oil right
^^sarcasm ;)

[-Ray-]

That's ok, I'm going to ask Chris to move all the oil discussion posts to the Stickied thread, all about oil.

[66cat389]

That's ok, I'm going to ask Chris to move all the oil discussion posts to the Stickied thread, all about oil.

Well you know what they say, oils well that ends well.

I know, lame joke. I'll just go and stand in the corner now.........

[G8GT721]

^i chuckled


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[zepcom]

But what I really want to know, is:

how many miles do I need to go before I should change my oil?

1000?
3000?
5000?
OLM dinging on startup for 2 months?
Once a year?
























Just kidding guys. :brock:

Good discussions, :popo:derailed the thread a bit :popo:, but still interesting to read. :cheers:

[Panzer Leader]

Up from the ground came a bubbling crude, oil that is, black gold, Texas Tea.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

I'm at work all day and this thread dies. :uhm: I just checked my oil life with 5000 miles on it and it's at 30%. I guess I've been driving her pretty hard. :brock: I just bought some Penzoil full synthetic and a NAPA gold filter, so I'll have to change it in the next week or so.

[66cat389]

I gotta admit, I do enjoy seeing some life in the V6 section of the board.

[polo]

I gotta admit, I do enjoy seeing some life in the V6 section of the board.

We're in the V6 section? Oh crap, gotta go...

only kidding :)

[hazer396]

So in about 100 miles im going to be getting a K&N Oil filter with 7 qts of Royal Purple

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Royal Purple isn't GM approved oil, and I have heard many people say it gets thin quickly. There's much better synthetic oils out there for a lot less money.

[hazer396]

so mobil 1 synthetic?

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Yes that's a much better choice.

[66cat389]

Yeah, I think Mobil1 is probably the way to go. In the article I referenced a few pages back, I found this...

"As more and more large oil companies switched their "synthetic" motor oils to the less expensive/more profitable Group III (3) base stocks it has become much easier to identify which are PAO based true synthetic. Of the large oil companies, only Mobil 1, as of this writing (12-15-2007), is still a PAO based true synthetic. The rest, including Castrol Syntec, have switched to the cheaper/more profitable Group III (3) petroleum based "synthetic" motor oil."

Which probably explains why Mobil1 is a bit more pricey than it's competitors.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Mobil 1 in 5w-30 is not a PAO based true synthetic, it has a hydro-cracked dino base stock. Only 0w-30 and 0w-40 Mobil 1 are a PAO based true synthetic oil.

The new Mobil 1 SuperSyn oils are full PAO syns. Their older TriSyns are not.

[66cat389]

You know way more about oil than any human being should know. Seriously, I am impressed. And it again shows why this board is better than any others I've been on.

[-Ray-]

Royal Purple isn't GM approved oil, and I have heard many people say it gets thin quickly. There's much better synthetic oils out there for a lot less money.

Actually, RP surpasses GM's spec.
However, you are correct, it's not GM approved.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Oil is so important to allow the motor to last for many miles. Since cars cost so much to buy and repair these days, it pays to know what's good and what's not, so I do a lot of reading about motor oil. I have 2 cars and 2 motorcycles and I want them to last for a long time. I bought a new Yamaha YZ250 motocrosser in 1983 and it still has the original piston and rings. I pound the daylights out it, and after 27 years it still runs great.

[Panzer Leader]

Actually, RP surpasses GM's spec.
However, you are correct, it's not GM approved.
Does that mean if it exceedes GM specs., it is not approved?:uhm: Is there some sinister reason GM does not want us to use RP:secret:Because I ran RP in all my Hondas and Infinities with no problems at all.:thumbsup: The G8 has been on Mobil 1 since the first oil change :first: The only thing that I was ever told, was that Mobile 1 has better cleaning properties than RP. :hmm:

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Ray if Royal Purple exceeds GM's spec then why isn't it recommended? That to me makes no sense at all. Panzer maybe he can answer your questions because I'm a bit confused also.

[WickedMom]

Actually, RP surpasses GM's spec.
However, you are correct, it's not GM approved.

Why does the RP bottle Label say it's for engines 2004 and older?


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[-Ray-]

Why does the RP bottle Label say it's for engines 2004 and older?


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I talked to Royal Purple when I was on the Power Tour. I'll get their official response to that question. Actually, I was thinking of you when I asked.

[hazer396]

SO ROYAL PURPLE 5W30 or MOBIL 1 5W30?
or K-Y SUPERLUBE?

[66cat389]

Always go with K-Y! If it's good enough for Porn stars, it's good enough for our cars! Besides, high amounts of friction are never good! You could blow out an O ring!

[hazer396]

K-Y Hot and Spicy Sensations? how many quarts and should i use a trojan magnum for a catch can?

[66cat389]

We can't let this thread die! It's the longest in our section, use the magnum!

Ray, any word back from RP? Is it just some sort of licensing thing to be listed as "GM approved"?

[zepcom]

Good redirect 66cat ... this thread was going downhill (again?) with the personal lube references... looking forward to hearing if Ray has any updates on Royal Purple.

[hazer396]

lol im about to install my pedders strut tower brace.. i got one side on.. man is it a PITA!!

[66cat389]

I'm still waiting on the SPOHN LCA's, that rattle is starting to drive me up the wall..... Thought about going with the factory replacements, but I like spending money. Plus there is no guarantee the problem will stay fixed with the stock arms.

[Panzer Leader]

I'm still waiting on the SPOHN LCA's, that rattle is starting to drive me up the wall..... Thought about going with the factory replacements, but I like spending money. Plus there is no guarantee the problem will stay fixed with the stock arms.

Quite right.

[schwartz]

So guys,

I got another oil question.Anybody using synthetic gear oil in their differential? I have no idea what's in there from the factory,don't have my manual handy.

[hazer396]

I'm still waiting on the SPOHN LCA's, that rattle is starting to drive me up the wall..... Thought about going with the factory replacements, but I like spending money. Plus there is no guarantee the problem will stay fixed with the stock arms.


Quite right.

that sucks.. i had that too.. i went in and got em replaced then after winter went again to get em replaced... not too good
but now theyre fine
but i did screw up the threads on my sway bar link but i put some RED loctite and that shit was impossible to take off

[66cat389]

Yeah, the only thing that can really get red loctite off is lots and lots of swearing. And you have to string the swear words together in incomprehensible sentences, otherwise it just won't come off. My wife thought I had tourette's syndrome the last time I used that stuff.

[hazer396]

^lolol

[schwartz]

Somebody stole 1 of my red valve stem caps.Are people really that fucking pathetic in life to do something like this???I know it's just a valve stem cap but if i ever caught somebody stealing anything off my ride i would beat his ass to a fucking pulp!!! Stupid no good for nothin' pieces of shit!Sorry,just lettin' off some steam.

[LowCal]

yeah man it's pretty f'n sad what people steel. In Winnipeg here it's pretty bad, i've atleast 5 sets of chrome valve stems jacked, my buddies had two center caps off his 09 dodge deisel jacked

[schwartz]

The thing that really pisses me off is it happened in my underground parking lot so it's gotta be some fool in my building,plus they just took 1 of them.
I just polished my car and cleaned up the mags and tires so i know they were all there,and my car is parked right now with no insurance since i'm driving my other car.I went down today to wipe the dust off and noticed it immediately.Probably some jealous dick who drives a piece of shit.
I can't believe you lost 5 sets,thats just wrong.

[hazer396]

LOL sorry to hear schwartz,
i remember someone stole my "tire flys" (the light up valve stem caps)
some fat 12 year old wanted to shoot him with a bean bag gun watching him run @ 1.59 mph

[VE CALAIS V]

someone stole my stock rims and tires out of my carpark. they were taken out of the tray of my mates ute, and left on the groung for 2hrs while he did a job. he come back and they were gone.
whats even worse is i live on an Army base and it was a sunday, so there were no civvies around.

[schwartz]

someone stole my stock rims and tires out of my carpark. they were taken out of the tray of my mates ute, and left on the groung for 2hrs while he did a job. he come back and they were gone.
whats even worse is i live on an Army base and it was a sunday, so there were no civvies around.

Wow,that would make my blood boil.

I'm sticking with just the black plastic caps for now on,i'll just put nice caps on for car shows.I guess this is why we should all have wheel locks on now.Stupid thiefs!

[hazer396]

wheel locks add an extra 30 Seconds for the theif to steal the rims!

[travis gore]

wheel locks add an extra 30 Seconds for the thief to steal the rims!

like my dad used to say "locks just keep honest people honest,a thief will get it no matter what you do"

[hazer396]

like my dad used to say "locks just keep honest people honest,a thief will get it no matter what you do"

your father speaks the truth!

but anyhoo
i love this thread!

[LowCal]

well i think i'm gonna order a few things for the G8. Forsure getting a intake, possibly a throttle body spacer that airaid just released for the 3.6 engine. Now i'm also seriously thinking about ordering the bbk chrome longtube headers and hi flo cats from the v-6 camaro to see what is needed to make them fit. if it is indeed too much then i'll just sell them and recoupe my money. I also want the solo axle backs, and on the fence how i wanna lower my car. I was ready to get the H&R springs, but now am considering the bc coilovers. WHAT TO DOOOO WHAT TO DO

oh yeah and the headers are a 3 - 6 wait from my supplier on thier regular order.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Wow,that would make my blood boil.

I'm sticking with just the black plastic caps for now on,i'll just put nice caps on for car shows.I guess this is why we should all have wheel locks on now.Stupid thiefs!
I have chrome valve caps with a hex on them. I tighten them with a small wrench and nobody has stolen them in over a year now. They also make locking valve caps, I saw them on Ebay. They come with a special tool that you hang on your key chain.

[schwartz]

They also make locking valve caps, I saw them on Ebay. They come with a special tool that you hang on your key chain.

Funny you should say that,I just ordered the pontiac stainless steel ones.Stay away from the other ones,they're not stainless steel.

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

Stainless steel is the way to go, then they won't rust. Mine are chrome plated brass so they won't rust either.

[hazer396]

on my ruff racing rims.. the valve stems are actually on the other side.. as in towards the inside of the car

[DRCUSTOMPARTS]

That's odd, I wonder why they did that. It must be difficult to access the valve stems on the back of the wheels.

[hazer396]

it is! these wheels are mostly for show..
form > function

[66cat389]

Sometimes you just gotta pay the price to look good!

[hazer396]

yes

http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=20684

[hazer396]

so just an update..
my accident was Dec 4th
and its been 2 months since the car has been home.. i got the parts on 02/04 and they should be going in this week..
along with some LSD :D

[66cat389]

You got lucky getting the GXP front end before GM jacked up the price...

[zepcom]

And still no updates from Ray on the Royal Purple part of this thread from way up there? ^^^^

I did find this extensive thread on a well respected site bobistheoilguy.com regarding royal purple... interesting read:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1506926

Awesome that you're getting the LSD installed, Hazer. Gotta christen the car with a dual tire "test" when you get it back!

[jaxredg8]

Should be a fun "test"!! Congrats Hazer!

[hazer396]

lol haha thanks.. yeah man this shop is dragging ass... i just cant wait to get my hands on the car.. gonna do a burnout leaving the shop

[Crazy Paul]

hmm ive been trying to look for a cam for our cars..
where the hell could i get one?

One will be of no use to you V6 guys.....U need 4.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/V6/36-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/V6/36-2.jpg

[hazer396]

lol i meant 4...
any idea?

[hazer396]

here are some updates:

new exhaust (cherry bomb xpipe, actual 12" cherry bombs, straight pipes, and quad 4" tips"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjmG1i-gHD0

drilled/slotted rotors
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/217689_10150554721520650_801365649_18401100_236430 9_n.jpg

GXP Diffuser with tips + Calais Trunk Trim (painted black)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207926_10150498343725650_801365649_18223817_343319 2_n.jpg


i also sold my white and black wheels, and got MRR GT-7s in Matte Black (Not Installed Yet)
heres a general pic
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3931/36420staggered1.jpg

LSD still hasnt been installed, waiting for my car to come back from the body shop, but ordered all the parts needed to do the swap, well just a pinion seal is needed..

i got Bathurst S stripes, and

and last but not least, my car is in the bodyshop getting its GXP Bumper installed and getting some recovery from the accident! so she will be back this saturday!

stay tuned, thanks for looking!

[Eidolon]

new exhaust (cherry bomb xpipe, actual 12" cherry bombs, straight pipes, and quad 4" tips"
That's a V6? That sounds pretty darn mean! Nice job! :thumbsup:

[hazer396]

thanks buddy! :brock:

[66cat389]

Did you ever end up getting your GXP fascia on?

[Panzer Leader]

Love the No Ricer Sound!!!!

[hazer396]

Did you ever end up getting your GXP fascia on?


its at the body shop will be back on saturday.. and wheels are being mounted 2moro :)

[hazer396]

tires mounted today

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/230137_10150576458040650_801365649_18658705_108399 4_n.jpg

[hazer396]

teasers

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224912_10150578577145650_801365649_18681136_382148 3_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/222182_10150578577495650_801365649_18681141_263926 0_n.jpg

[peterg22000]

Very nice!

[HLDNG8]

Very nice man

[66cat389]

Kick ass!

[hazer396]

moar pics :D

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/222041_10150583611185650_801365649_18748059_789019 4_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/228762_10150583611315650_801365649_18748061_175616 6_n.jpg

[CntryClub007]

K your car looks decent now.

When are you going to just drop in a new motor and be done?

[hazer396]

lol as soon as you donate some money to me! lol

[christiancoach]

Looks great, except for those dirty exhaust tips!!

[hazer396]

ill start taking care of them as soon as i get them staggered and re-aligned lol

[hazer396]

its been awhile.. heres my new dyno video @ 230 RWHP


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQdgru1Bp5w&feature=player_embedded

[Slizzo]

Hey, you get a tune figured out man? Thought you were getting headers on it too? I'd like to see the V6 guys' market expand too!