View Full Version : Bulb List for LED Swaps
rez0nance
09-01-2010, 10:52 AM
I started this thread on the other board, and had forgotten to post it over here as well. Mods, if you want to sticky this list, I'd appreciate it. :)
Given that bulb numbers are requested constantly, and the Sylvania list is (or was) unreliable for our cars as they listed some incorrect or proprietary numbers, finding out what bulb numbers you need is a bit painful and currently requires a lot of searching around (I know from experience). Therefore, I figured I'd make a central list with all the numbers I have tracked down, as well as whether or not they are confirmed to work. I included a zipped Excel spreadsheet that I made for this which might be easier to read.
If anyone has numbers for any other bulbs I missed, or sees any mistakes in the list, let me know and I'll update the post.
Format:
[Bulb name]: [bulb number], [quantity needed (individual bulbs)], , [Confirmed to work?]
Starred (*) bulbs require a resistor (6 ohms on each bulb) to be installed in order to avoid hyperflash, brake release blinking, output degradation, and other unsavory side-effects.
Exterior Bulbs:
Backup/Reverse: 1156, 2, White, Confirmed
Brake: 7443/7440, 2, Red, Confirmed
License plate/Tag: 194, 2, White, Confirmed
Sidemarkers (under headlight on front bumper cover): 194, 2, Amber, Confirmed
Side repeaters/fender turn signals (behind front wheels): 194, 2, Amber, Confirmed
Front turn signal: 1157, 2, Amber, Confirmed , *
Rear turn signal: 1156, 2, Amber, Confirmed , *
Foglight LEDs: 5202/9009, 2, White, Confirmed
Interior Bulbs:
Dome lights: 194, 4(sunroof)/[COLOR="Red"]2?(no sunroof), White, Confirmed
Trunk (also Glovebox, Center console): 211, 1, White, Confirmed
PLEASE BE AWARE THAT MANY SITES (SUCH AS V-LEDS) SELL MANY BULBS IN PAIRS! DOUBLE CHECK HOW MANY BULBS YOU ARE BUYING SO YOU DON'T ORDER MORE THAN YOU NEED!
If you are going to add a glovebox light (or if your '08 G8 has it and you're going to swap it to LED), or a center console light, the same bulb type as the trunk light will work.
I've now confirmed all bulbs in this list (except for fogs), as I've swapped all my bulbs for LEDs.
I believe non-sunroof cars have 2 interior bulbs as they lack the map lights... If anyone that owns a car sans sunroof can confirm I'll update things.
I will update this OP as needed.
*Edit 9/2: Added fog bulbs, confirmed by 4GASEM.
mtolivecracker
09-01-2010, 03:47 PM
love you
screw991le
09-01-2010, 04:28 PM
nice
Chewy
09-02-2010, 06:31 AM
I have LED's in my fogs...
Led , Wattage: 5202 (9009) , Color: Cool White
rez0nance
09-02-2010, 07:03 AM
love you
LMAO don't think I've ever gotten that response for a thread...
You're welcome. :)
I have LED's in my fogs...
Led , Wattage: 5202 (9009) , Color: Cool White
Damn, never thought of adding those to the list, thanks! I'll edit the post.
Snakey
09-02-2010, 02:20 PM
I bought my back-ups from V-LEDS, where else do you guys get the LED's from or is that the best bet?
rez0nance
09-08-2010, 07:11 AM
I bought my back-ups from V-LEDS, where else do you guys get the LED's from or is that the best bet?
Sorry for late response. I went with V-LEDs for all my LEDs. No complaints. Their customer service is spectacular as well.
BATOYGIO
09-08-2010, 08:38 AM
With the LED lights for the turn signals and markers don't you need to use resisters or something so that they work properly? How exactly does that work because I definitely want to LED/HID the cars lights soon.
Seattle09GT
09-08-2010, 08:54 AM
Whatever the LED equivalent is for a 6814 bulb would be the replacement for the glovebox light. Just sayin'
rez0nance
09-08-2010, 10:22 AM
With the LED lights for the turn signals and markers don't you need to use resisters or something so that they work properly? How exactly does that work because I definitely want to LED/HID the cars lights soon.
You only need resistors for the main turn signals, the ones in the corners (in the headlights and taillights). The sidemarker on the fender does not need a resistor, it can be swapped for LED without issue.
The resistors are just installed with wire splices onto the proper wires on the harness and then stuck onto some metal part somewhere (I chose the frame rails in the hood, and the sheet metal next to the tail lights). You want to avoid sticking them to anything plastic because they get very hot and will melt plastic. As for which specific wires in the front harnesses, there's other threads that say which if you search for them. The ones in the rear are already separated and not in a harness so it's a no-brainer.
Whatever the LED equivalent is for a 6814 bulb would be the replacement for the glovebox light. Just sayin'
I'm not sure what a 6814 bulb looks like, but as I listed a 211 LED (same one as the trunk light) will work. Maybe that's the equivalent.
To clarify: I'm going by what would be plug & play. You could always (as other members have done) get yourself some LED strips and solder/splice them into the wires, but obviously that's not plug & play. A 211 type LED is a festoon bulb replacement and will fit in the stock connector.
TxNessie84
09-08-2010, 01:46 PM
Nice list. Thanks!
rez0nance
09-09-2010, 10:07 AM
Nice list. Thanks!
Glad it helps. :)
BATOYGIO
09-09-2010, 10:32 AM
Thanks for the info on the resistors.
incon3037r
09-15-2010, 10:42 PM
Anyone know how to remove the cover to replace the bulb in the side markers?
incon3037r
09-15-2010, 10:44 PM
Nevermind.
rez0nance
09-16-2010, 07:05 AM
Anyone know how to remove the cover to replace the bulb in the side markers?
Nevermind.
I'm guessing you found that other thread. :)
Nickj
09-26-2010, 06:34 PM
So, first off, Thanks for the list! Second, for idea's sake, what did you all use as your replacements? Such as the actual product... I checked superbright and vleds and see sooooo many different options that it makes me feel like its not as easy as I hoped. I am absolutely not an electrician or super experienced at changing the lights in a car, but, some of these bases I see on these bulbs look unfamiliar in total.
Hell, typically I buy mods and sit on them for 3-4 weeks before I even have time to put them on hehe, so I'd like to make sure I get the right crap the first time lol.
Also, for fog light replacements, I have 5k HID headlights and HATE the color difference in the fogs. I dont care if the light output isnt as good, can someone recommend an actual foglight replacement that isnt a zillion bucks?
Thanks in advance!
Eidolon
12-07-2010, 12:39 PM
The resistors are just installed with wire splices onto the proper wires on the harness and then stuck onto some metal part somewhere (I chose the frame rails in the hood, and the sheet metal next to the tail lights).
What did you use to do your sticking? Two-sided automotive tape? I want to use something that can stand up to the temperature of the resistors.
I12XLR8
03-05-2011, 04:48 PM
[QUOTE=rez0nance;290841][COLOR="red"]I believe non-sunroof cars have 2 interior bulbs as they lack the map lights... If anyone that owns a car sans sunroof can confirm I'll update things.
I don't have a sunroof in mine (was a hard one to find!) and there are two dome lights requiring 1 194 in each. No map lights.
TurboMike
03-07-2011, 09:42 AM
I mounted my resistors (all four) on a metal plate (help absorb heat) and the metal plate is suspended by zipties under the dash. Its suspended so its not near anything or can swing into anything, to keep the heat from getting near anything.
I have all four resistors tied into the wires coming out the BCM, so I dont have to mess with any wiring at each bulb location.
texn884
03-07-2011, 06:27 PM
Great List.
DZG8GT
04-16-2011, 10:37 AM
Need some help here, I tried an LED bulb for the trunk, its an 4410-xHP12DI. It similar to the glove box bulb except it has 12 LEDs for a 360 degree pattern. When I plug it in it just flashes dimly. Would a resister help or is it just a wrong application for this spot? I thought I read on some other post that this was a optional choice for the trunk.
Eidolon
04-16-2011, 11:27 AM
Need some help here, I tried an LED bulb for the trunk, its an 4410-xHP12DI. It similar to the glove box bulb except it has 12 LEDs for a 360 degree pattern. When I plug it in it just flashes dimly. Would a resister help or is it just a wrong application for this spot? I thought I read on some other post that this was a optional choice for the trunk.
The resistor mod for turn signals is not to fix something wrong with the LEDs, but rather to emulate the load of a filament bulb to prevent hyperflash. LEDs use so little current relative to a filament bulb that, without the resistor, your car thinks that there's nothing there and hyperflashes to alert you.
So a resistor won't help you here.
One of three things is up.
1) The voltage that the car is providing is not correct. Filament bulbs aren't sensitive to voltage. LEDs are. If you have a multimeter or know someone who does, make sure you're getting 12 volts.
2) A bad or loose connection either in the bulb holder or in the LED contacts.
3) Simply a defective LED bulb.
Try to nail down 1 and 2, and if those aren't it, you're left with #3!
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DZG8GT
04-17-2011, 02:57 PM
Well now the bulb will not even light so the no brainier answer is its the bulb. Now to see if I can get it replaced for free since it was $12. Might go with a different kind. Just was worried about the degree of illumination with LEDs
JonnyG2132
09-22-2011, 06:20 PM
I recently tinted my tail lights and I already got pulled over. The trooper said I should get brighter bulbs or replace the whole tail lights with stock. Would these LED bulbs be a lot brighter then stock bulbs for my tail lights?
Thanks
MoonPie
09-23-2011, 05:19 AM
Hey, anyone know what the requirements are in terms of bulb color or can I have all bulbs the same color? I'm thinking nope but would like same color all around if I can.
piecesparts
10-13-2011, 06:51 AM
Anyone changed out the 194 bulbs in the dome lights, yet. What size in lumens did you go with? Did you use a light that is designed like a tower or a flat plate design OR-----? After doing my new GMC truck the car has to have new dome light bulbs.
nifong08iom
04-02-2012, 03:47 PM
I would like to know this as well. Best ones used for tails and turns and backup, exact description on V-LEDs, so we know why to order. Best 194 for dome and map lights?
incon3037r
04-02-2012, 04:30 PM
this is good to have around
MIEngineer
05-27-2012, 11:35 AM
So what are some good interior LED choices for the dome etc? I have bought some LEDs before and they were extremely dim / not as advertised. I'd rather not waste my money again on poor product.
XXFire
05-27-2012, 11:49 AM
So what are some good interior LED choices for the dome etc? I have bought some LEDs before and they were extremely dim / not as advertised. I'd rather not waste my money again on poor product.
http://autolumination.com/194.htm
#194 5 led SMT IS AWESOME ! ! !
MIEngineer
05-27-2012, 11:53 AM
I will take a look. VLEDs irritates me as quite often some of their stuff just happens to be out of stock conveniently around sales. Wonder why.
piecesparts
05-27-2012, 03:18 PM
I replaced both of my dome lights with PUTCO # 280003 "T" type stick bulbs. They are bright and they work great.
MeanGreenZ71
05-28-2012, 10:30 AM
Thinking about getting some white SMD 1156 bulbs for the backup lights. Any idea how big of a buld I can fit? I see some 50 and some 120 diode bulbs for sale....what will be brightest?
MeanGreenZ71
05-30-2012, 11:09 AM
Thinking about getting some white SMD 1156 bulbs for the backup lights. Any idea how big of a buld I can fit? I see some 50 and some 120 diode bulbs for sale....what will be brightest?
Bump.
DZG8GT
09-02-2012, 02:09 PM
Well here are my findings for the interior. I have converted to the sunroof dome package so I have map light too. I figure for the dome you need wide angle of 90 to 135 degree illumination. For the maplights you want the narrow 35 to 60 degree spread. Looking for max brightness in white light (6000k) I am going with WLED-NW6 from super bright lights for the map. 9300 luminouss at 35 degrees. For dome I will go with WLED-W4 which has 90 degree beam and 7500 luminous (6500K) of white light.
Speaking of LEDs and replacement lights, here's another good thread (that I just started!):High Mount Brake Light Replacement LEDs (http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=33388)
A resource for replacing the LEDs in the High-Mount Brake light. The actual OEM LED strip and is just too darned expensive (as many of you know), and I hadn't seen this information available anywhere else yet... Hope this helps someone!
MoonPie
09-16-2012, 02:09 PM
I know 5202 LED fogs work for the high beam lamp, not a perfect fit but are snug and can be tapped down. I've ordered a set of H9 LED bulbs. If someone hasn't already done this and it works for me, I'd add it to the list. With HID low beams, you really don't need high beams IMO so why not replace with LED's for when/if you do flash the high beams?
Blk.drgn@hotmail.com
12-06-2012, 09:10 PM
Anyone find a replacement for the visor lights? The stock lights are useless!
TurboMike
12-07-2012, 09:17 AM
Anyone find a replacement for the visor lights? The stock lights are useless!
http://forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=14103
Blk.drgn@hotmail.com
12-07-2012, 01:21 PM
Thank you, I never thought of calling it a vanity...
WoodburyMan
01-02-2013, 04:37 PM
Has anyone found good 1157 Bulbs for front turn signal / running lights?
I found a nice pair of 1156 "Error Free" ones with built in load resisters. Ones I got that are "Error Free" built in resister 1157 works weird. With Lights off, the blinker works fine no hyper flash. If lights are on (IE just orange running light) it works fine, but when I do blinker I will then get hyperflash. I have tried one other brand to with the same results. Links would help if you have them. Thanks!
Michaelnelson
01-27-2013, 01:50 AM
I bought my back-ups from V-LEDS, where else do you guys get the led bulb (http://www.niceledlights.com) from or is that the best bet?
Hey very nice useful list thanks for sharing it.
768MPH
01-27-2013, 07:48 AM
So, first off, Thanks for the list! Second, for idea's sake, what did you all use as your replacements? Such as the actual product... I checked superbright and vleds and see sooooo many different options that it makes me feel like its not as easy as I hoped. I am absolutely not an electrician or super experienced at changing the lights in a car, but, some of these bases I see on these bulbs look unfamiliar in total.
Thanks in advance!
I was informed of this website and they give you how to videos on installation of resistors. They also break it down to which bulbs we need; although not every bulb is available through this website, we can purchase the bulbs we need through other websites.
http://www.diodedynamics.com/store/index.php/led-bulbs/listed-by-vehicle/pontiac/g8.html
Yes, Im aware his post was from 2010. :D
Tulsa GT
03-08-2013, 09:03 AM
Getting closer to having this done.
Done: backup (like a lot), brake/parking (pretty nice), fender (pretty nice) interior (did red like a lot!, but see below), license plates (like a lot)
To do:
bumper light - got neondials, waiting on white bulb
Turn signals f/r - waiting on resistors
Fogs - waiting on led's
Trunk and glove - waiting on led's
Issue with front dome light: had webatso sunroof installed when first got the car. See pics below. Now I can't get that overhead console piece down.
Any suggestions?
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/09/e8uzyrum.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/03/09/a3are9y5.jpg
Eidolon
03-08-2013, 09:15 AM
Don't pry from the Webasto control module they installed. That's not part of the OEM fixture, so it's not a physical part of the build of the car, nor does it contain anything that should be holding the OEM module in place.
Instead, open the sunglasses holder in front of the control. You might need to remove the sunglasses drawer or a blanking piece behind, but there should be two screws in there that hold that entire module to the roof. Remove those, then pull down and toward the back of the car to remove the entire dome light/button/sunglasses holder plastic unit all as one.
Tulsa GT
03-08-2013, 09:22 AM
Ya I knew not to pry on the switch. Also not to pry the lens cover off as the installers told me to.
But oem instructions of remove the 1 screw then pull down and back are not working.
How do I remove tray/backing?
Tulsa GT
03-08-2013, 09:24 AM
So the two screws u refer to are from sunroof install? Or factory?
Eidolon
03-08-2013, 10:06 AM
So the two screws u refer to are from sunroof install? Or factory?
Factory, but I have the OEM sunroof. So my module has a blanking plate with the control, though I would assume the rest of it would be the same. There should be two silver screws in the console on the leading edge facing the sunroof. After that, there are metal clips that hold it in place.
Tulsa GT
03-08-2013, 10:09 PM
U see the 2nd pic I posted? The chip? Is there any chance that behind that chip there are screws holding the sunroof switch hardware in place?
Eidolon
03-09-2013, 03:56 PM
U see the 2nd pic I posted? The chip? Is there any chance that behind that chip there are screws holding the sunroof switch hardware in place?
That I don't know. If there are, that means the installers added them. But I don't believe there's anything behind that to hold the module in place except for the sunroof motor itself, and the sunroof motor should be affixed to the frame for the sunroof, not to the control unit on the headliner. At least that's how the OEM setup is.
screaminChick-n
03-20-2013, 08:47 AM
Can someone be kind enough to backcheck my LED shopping list from superbrightleds.com . Main concern is bulb size for fitment in stock housing and practical brightness. Thanks
18159
screaminChick-n
03-20-2013, 03:22 PM
bump I would like to order them today if possible !!
Phil@PnP Tech
03-20-2013, 06:38 PM
Pretty sure you need the 9 led festoon for trunk. 4 is too short.
Here was my shopping list to do the front markers, license, interior, and reverse
QtyProduct/OptionsPrice/Ea
21156-xLX3: 1156 LED Bulb - Single Intensity 1 x 3 Watt High Power LED 1156-WLX3: 1156 Cool White$9.95
6WLED-x-x: 194 LED Bulb - 1 LED Wedge Base WLED-W-120: Cool White 120 Degree$1.39
4WLED-x-x: 194 LED Bulb - 1 LED Wedge Base WLED-A-120: Amber 120 Degree
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screaminChick-n
03-20-2013, 07:40 PM
Pretty sure you need the 9 led festoon for trunk. 4 is too short.
Here was my shopping list to do the front markers, license, interior, and reverse
Qty Product/Options Price/Ea
6 WLED-x-x: 194 LED Bulb - 1 LED Wedge Base WLED-W-120: Cool White 120 Degree $1.39
4WLED-x-x: 194 LED Bulb - 1 LED Wedge Base WLED-A-120: Amber 120 Degree
got the reverse right. thanks
assuming the six 194 LED Bulb 1LED Wedge Base WLED-W-120: Cool White 120 Degree is for the 4 dome/map lights and the 2 liscense plate lights ?
also two 194 LED Bulb - 1 LED Wedge Base WLED-A-120: Amber 120 Degree for the front markers...what are the other 2 for ? spares
Phil@PnP Tech
03-21-2013, 10:51 AM
assuming the six 194 LED Bulb 1LED Wedge Base WLED-W-120: Cool White 120 Degree is for the 4 dome/map lights and the 2 liscense plate lights ?
Yes
also two 194 LED Bulb - 1 LED Wedge Base WLED-A-120: Amber 120 Degree for the front markers...what are the other 2 for ? spares
2 for the repeaters in the fenders and 2 for the markers in the side of the front bumper.
Napalm
04-10-2014, 08:31 AM
anyone have issues getting a 7443 LED tail light/brake light bulb to fit the housing.
I've bought 2 devices both labeled 7443, as the incandescent bulb is labeled. both are 360 devices with LEDs on the end cap which I thought for the way the fixture is designed would light well and thoroughly.
neither will fit in the housing. fits the holder fine - lights great - but when I go to place into the lamp housing - won't clear the opening.
compared to a incandescent 7443 - they are both slightly larger in diameter. even the SMD version.
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