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BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:02 PM
I am starting this thread to feature the install of the MP1900 Supercharger System on my 2008 G8 GT. I will be posting up before and after Dyno Runs, Before and during install pictures with technical data as we go along. The install will Start on Wednesday and the dyno baseline is tomorrow.

I think the blower will be a nice addition to the plates
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/BZG8/LPadded.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/G8/G8Kit.jpg

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:02 PM
289 RWHP....and so it begins:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/BZG8/Picture004.jpg
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BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:03 PM
OK here we go, please excuse the photos....I am still learning the new camera. This is a slightly abridged step by step process, detailed instructions can be found @ www.magnacharger.com. And remember to contact your favorite board sponsor on the left for your Magna Charger purchase.

Drain your coolant:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture020.jpg

Remove the stock air intake
Unclip your injectors:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture026.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture026.jpg
Unplug your Brake booster check valve:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture029.jpg
Unbolt your Throttle Body:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture032.jpg
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Unplug the EVAP Solenoid:
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Unplug the fuel feed ling using the supplied tool. BE SURE TO DO THIS WHEN THE VEHICLE IS COOL:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture045.jpg

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:03 PM
I suggest capping off the fuel line on the rails before removal:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture047.jpg
Unbolt the intake manifold:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture054.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture055.jpg
Remove Intake Manifold:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture061.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture062.jpg
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Tape off intake ports on the heads:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture064.jpg
Remove the stock belt and tensioner:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture065.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture067.jpg
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BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:04 PM
Unplug MAF
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture070.jpg
Remove airbox:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture071.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture073.jpg
Remove front bumper cover:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture089.jpg
Remove Fans:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture091.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture092.jpg
Remove radiator mounts:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture093.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture095.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture096.jpg
Tilt back Radiator assembly and install Heat Exchanger (I painted my black):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture105.jpg

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:05 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture106.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture108.jpg
Pinning the crank pulley( we provide an awesome tool to do this with):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture111.jpg
Remove the stock crank bolt:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture112.jpg
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Install supplied tool/guide:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture117.jpg
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Using supplied steeped drill bit drill the holes:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture119.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture121.jpg

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:05 PM
Install the intercooler pump bracket:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture132.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture134.jpg
Reinstall the fans:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture136.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture137.jpg
Extend your Throttle body wires (these are automotive grade heat shrink connectors):
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture138.jpg
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BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:06 PM
Remove the stock steam crossover:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture144.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture146.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture147.jpg
Install supplied steam crossover:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture148.jpg
Install new tensioner:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture152.jpg
Remove protective tape and spray silicone spray on the heads:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture153.jpg
Time for the fun part, get your supercharger!:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture154.jpg
With an assisant install the supercharger on the heads:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture155.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture158.jpg

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:06 PM
Torque the manifold to 18 inch pounds:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture164.jpg
Reinstall your coils:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture169.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture170.jpg
Install supplied heater hoses:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture172.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture181.jpg
Install Throttle Body:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture185.jpg
Install vacuum lines:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture200.jpg
Install supplied belt:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture201.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture202.jpg
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BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 12:07 PM
Coolant reservoir:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture230.jpg
Supplied belt routing and EO sticker:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture232.jpg
New air inlet:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture233.jpg
FIRE IT UP:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture238.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y252/blownchevy/Picture242.jpg

R.Penguin
11-14-2008, 12:23 PM
Very nice work. Pics & sound of course when ready.


I think I'll stick with my Pinto 4 cylinder drop-in mod tho. :p

:p

confused2much
11-14-2008, 01:13 PM
Looks fantastic....wish I had the funds to install that setup.

SRG963
11-14-2008, 01:21 PM
Great pictures, how do you like the drive? I would love to get one of these bad boys....maybe on my next one:)

Steve
11-14-2008, 01:46 PM
Awesome writeup- makes me want to install it myself!
Question though - if people already have an aftermarket underdrive pulley how does this affect the install/performance of the supercharger?

wreckwriter
11-14-2008, 01:54 PM
Awesome writeup- makes me want to install it myself!
Question though - if people already have an aftermarket underdrive pulley how does this affect the install/performance of the supercharger?

I think we have to use their pulley, sell the UD. Not positive though.

norm8332
11-14-2008, 03:21 PM
I think we have to use their pulley, sell the UD. Not positive though.

Nice write up.

According to the manual its the stock pully.

Pinning the pulley is the only part I'm a little hesitant about, First you need a drill small enough to fit in there, and second me and drills have a bad history.

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 03:29 PM
you must use the stock crank pulley. The UD pulley will only spin the blower SLOWER!

As for the crank pinning process, it is easier that you think....EVERY part and detailed instructions are included. Even a caveman could do it!

Steve
11-14-2008, 03:35 PM
Guess it's a good thing I kept the original then! Thanks for the info!

norm8332
11-14-2008, 03:41 PM
BlownG8GT, could that drill bit be ground shorter (shank) a little bit if I need to fit the drill in between there?

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 03:57 PM
BlownG8GT, could that drill bit be ground shorter (shank) a little bit if I need to fit the drill in between there?

We fit a dewalt 12v drill in there during the development stage. The bit can be cut if needed, I hope you have a VERY good grinder.

It's A G8!
11-14-2008, 04:35 PM
you must use the stock crank pulley. The UD pulley will only spin the blower SLOWER!

Just install the 9lb. blower pulley to make up for the slowness of the UD pulley. I would think magnuson could preinstall it on the blower if told too for a fee.

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 04:54 PM
Just install the 9lb. blower pulley to make up for the slowness of the UD pulley. I would think magnuson could preinstall it on the blower if told too for a fee.

why would you bother? Sell the UD pulley that is not going to do you any good with the blower. I would give up 5 HP to gain 130 ;)

GRRRR8
11-14-2008, 06:06 PM
Really GRRRR8 write up and pics! :clap:

Andy@Livernois
11-14-2008, 06:53 PM
Even better yet throw an innovators west OD pulley and kick the boost up ;)

Steve
11-14-2008, 07:57 PM
Even better yet throw an innovators west OD pulley and kick the boost up ;)

details? :)

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 08:33 PM
Even better yet throw an innovators west OD pulley and kick the boost up ;)

and add a 8rib ;) you would be rockin then!

It's A G8!
11-14-2008, 09:24 PM
why would you bother? Sell the UD pulley that is not going to do you any good with the blower. I would give up 5 HP to gain 130 ;)

It may be 5hp on a NA motor,but who know it could be 15hp on a FI motor. Every HP counts.

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 09:26 PM
It may be 5hp on a NA motor,but who know it could be 15hp on a FI motor. Every HP counts.

I would give up 15 to make 130 ;) Using an UD pulley with a blower is not exactly the correct use of the UD pulley.

It's A G8!
11-14-2008, 09:35 PM
What I am saying is instead of you having 130hp you will get 145hp. But oh well just my two cents. I know I will not convince you.

BlownG8GT
11-14-2008, 09:43 PM
What I am saying is instead of you having 130hp you will get 145hp. But oh well just my two cents. I know I will not convince you.

what I am trying to say is it will not work. No need to convince me, I have seen it and tried it. It will not work, some mods just do not stack up.

djchubbs
11-14-2008, 10:02 PM
were is the video of the test drive

Andy@Livernois
11-15-2008, 06:15 AM
so what is this blower max capable of??? I could definately do an 8-rib setup for it :D

BlownG8GT
11-15-2008, 02:08 PM
so what is this blower max capable of??? I could definately do an 8-rib setup for it :D

the supercharger will flow enough air to make 700 rwhp....if you have the motor and FEAD to back it up.

Andy@Livernois
11-15-2008, 06:15 PM
aw come on, we have done 651 on a stock LS2 shortblock with more compression for almost 40k miles now... I am certain we could do the same with that...

BlownG8GT
11-15-2008, 06:18 PM
aw come on, we have done 651 on a stock LS2 shortblock with more compression for almost 40k miles now... I am certain we could do the same with that...

as I stated....we do not take the risk...YOU can ;)

Andy@Livernois
11-15-2008, 06:44 PM
trust me... I'm working on it :D

BlownG8GT
11-15-2008, 07:33 PM
trust me... I'm working on it :D

LOL DOIT! Then I will know the limit:woohoo:

MtbDoc
11-15-2008, 07:47 PM
Andy, I appreciate your posts! This is what I've been trying to get discussed on this and 'the other' board. I'm looking for around 500 rwhp, and don't want to do cam and other parts. Simply dial up the boost and go....

We may need to talk. I'm >700 miles from y'all in Michigan...and trying to figure out how to make this happen.

BlownG8GT
11-15-2008, 10:31 PM
Andy, I appreciate your posts! This is what I've been trying to get discussed on this and 'the other' board. I'm looking for around 500 rwhp, and don't want to do cam and other parts. Simply dial up the boost and go....

We may need to talk. I'm >700 miles from y'all in Michigan...and trying to figure out how to make this happen.

and as I stated on the "other board" the power is obtainable if you are willing to take the risk on a stock motor.

I suggest you visit Livernois, they are a quality shop that will get you what you are looking for.

Thanks for the challenge this weekend, I needed it:nah:

Andy@Livernois
11-16-2008, 06:38 AM
No problem... I knew the 1900 had some serious potential, which is why I always question peoples want to move to a KB or a Whipple. I would be more concerned about the trans then the engine at that power level. Unless of course there is "tuner error" involved.

But if you want to push it hard We have the Rossler option on the trans as well...

MtbDoc
11-16-2008, 11:47 AM
Thanks for the challenge this weekend, I needed it:nah:

Challenge? Wow...your public relations skills are really something. So this is the kind of image that Magnuson is after? Ventura County people have changed since I was there as a kid...

Obviously you don't like being questioned about someone expecting a $6k blower to do more than 130rwhp. Expected more both from the blower as well as a company rep.

And again, thank you Andy. The reality is that this is a very simple install, although your experience doing the tune would be great.

Andy@Livernois
11-16-2008, 02:22 PM
It definately is a straightforward install that, while it will consume some time, is not too high up on the "difficulty" level. Which is why we chose to run the install special at cheaper then it was even retailing for. Plus this came with a custom tune, oil, filter, plugs, and coolant...

BlownG8GT
11-16-2008, 03:44 PM
Challenge? Wow...your public relations skills are really something. So this is the kind of image that Magnuson is after? Ventura County people have changed since I was there as a kid...

Obviously you don't like being questioned about someone expecting a $6k blower to do more than 130rwhp. Expected more both from the blower as well as a company rep.

And again, thank you Andy. The reality is that this is a very simple install, although your experience doing the tune would be great.

As I stated before you are impossible to please. I have answered your questions time and time again, and feel that I have done everything I can to help you. I am sorry you find the 130 rwhp gain to be below your expectations, we and certainly others are more than pleased the outcome of the kit.

If you have a problem with me, feel free to call up and speak to the owner Jerry Magnuson. I left his number in your PM box. FYI, please be sure to get my name right when you speak to him< Brian Zacuto.

Thanks

G8GT594
11-16-2008, 04:33 PM
Challenge? Wow...your public relations skills are really something. So this is the kind of image that Magnuson is after? Ventura County people have changed since I was there as a kid...

Obviously you don't like being questioned about someone expecting a $6k blower to do more than 130rwhp. Expected more both from the blower as well as a company rep.

And again, thank you Andy. The reality is that this is a very simple install, although your experience doing the tune would be great.

Honestly dude just STFU! I have read your post on the other board also, seriously if your not happy with it develop your own S/C for the damn car. Until then drop it.

GeorgeInNePa
11-16-2008, 07:27 PM
Challenge? Wow...your public relations skills are really something. So this is the kind of image that Magnuson is after? Ventura County people have changed since I was there as a kid...

Obviously you don't like being questioned about someone expecting a $6k blower to do more than 130rwhp. Expected more both from the blower as well as a company rep.

And again, thank you Andy. The reality is that this is a very simple install, although your experience doing the tune would be great.

Unless there's something I've missed, he told you several times you can change pullies, you can make more power, the 1900 is more than capable of what you want, BUT

They. Don't. Recommend. It.


Now, obviously they feel that above their recommended power levels, the STOCK ENGINE, STOCK TRANS, and STOCK REAR are at risk.

You may feel differently.

But it remains that they CANNOT tell you it's ok to do. Both because the Kit is CARB accepted as is and for possible damage to your trans and rear. You will have to make that decision on your own and accept any negative results, again on your own.

Steve
11-16-2008, 09:59 PM
Challenge? Wow...your public relations skills are really something. So this is the kind of image that Magnuson is after? Ventura County people have changed since I was there as a kid...

Obviously you don't like being questioned about someone expecting a $6k blower to do more than 130rwhp. Expected more both from the blower as well as a company rep.

And again, thank you Andy. The reality is that this is a very simple install, although your experience doing the tune would be great.

Here's my take on this 'drama'...

They're saying you get 130 RWHP SAFELY on a stock system - that's not taking into account any other mods you may do yourself (CAI/Headers etc). That's a 130hp without issues. Most Blowers make 40-50% of original engine HP so that's right in line with those numbers. You can always crank up the boost etc. Heck look at a certain other company and what they're doing with a dual turbo setup.. HUGE numbers, but can you say 'frag grenade'? ;).

It's all about the balancing act and at the specified 130 Magnuson feels they can basically guarantee no issues on stock internals. If you push it beyond that (which i'm sure you can) then it basically becomes 'user beware'. I'm looking at getting near 500 RWHP in the future too, but since I Have a Cai, will get headers etc I don't see any problem getting there or very close to it with the magnuson blower and if I ever choose to go with stronger internals i'll be cranking up the boost a bit ;)

-Ray-
11-17-2008, 02:02 AM
Gentlemen,
Easy does it. Everyone has had their say. If you have issues take it up with the person by PM.

GeorgeInNePa
11-17-2008, 05:35 AM
No problem... I knew the 1900 had some serious potential, which is why I always question peoples want to move to a KB or a Whipple. I would be more concerned about the trans then the engine at that power level. Unless of course there is "tuner error" involved.

But if you want to push it hard We have the Rossler option on the trans as well...

You've mentioned that before, can you expand on that?

Andy@Livernois
11-17-2008, 08:35 AM
Well, Basically we take your stock transmission, send it out to Carl Rossler, he does his magic to it (i think its about 3500 to do) and it's the only 6L80e we have never seen an issue with... The "test" vehicle makes 730 rwhp and is soon to make more then that...

I will be upfront, this is still in the learning/development stages. But it was an impressive upgrade in the consistency of the transmission.

BlownG8GT
11-17-2008, 09:13 AM
Good to know there is an option out there for the 6L80-E if I choose to go any further. I know FLT has been the king of GM transmissions for a long time, I wonder if they have done any work on one.

MtbDoc
11-17-2008, 06:30 PM
Unless there's something I've missed, he told you several times you can change pullies, you can make more power, the 1900 is more than capable of what you want, BUT

They. Don't. Recommend. It.


Now, obviously they feel that above their recommended power levels, the STOCK ENGINE, STOCK TRANS, and STOCK REAR are at risk.

You may feel differently.

But it remains that they CANNOT tell you it's ok to do. Both because the Kit is CARB accepted as is and for possible damage to your trans and rear. You will have to make that decision on your own and accept any negative results, again on your own.

If you go back 3+ yrs, there were a number of people w/ GTO's that were underwhelmed w/ the performance obtained by simply bolting on the maggie. To get where they wanted to be, there were cam swaps, LT's, etc. Pullies WERE an issue. Then they came out w/ the HH Eaton blower, with the implication that it was the blower that was holding back the power. Eaton has now released the TVS blowers (and Magnuson has prepared manifolds, etc so they'll work on these cars), but we're back at a level of power which is closer to 400rwhp than 500rwhp.

I have been vocal about this, but you will see others who have concerns. I realize that CARB is an issue...but then again, it's not all that tricky to have a CARB approved setup, and one that isn't. It's been done by other companies from what I understand.

I have NO concern about this tranny at 500rwhp. The LS2 bottom end proved to be quite stout on the GTO's. The rear end of this car is supposed to be stronger than the VZ cars (GTO). Hence my lack of concern about this power level. And ANYONE who blows up their driveline due to a boosted application is going to pick up the tab on it, not a blower manufacturer.

Perhaps it is a bit naive, but I was actually thinking that we'd see some dyno charts w/ a couple of different pulley sizes, boost levels, etc. We are shown an efficiency chart offering a reported comparison to other forced induction systems...and it has fairly wide parameters. So why not demonstrate what this CAN actually do.

- - - - - - - -

If I'm wasting your electrons activating pixels on your monitor, please forgive me. If you're wasting time reading this...well, that is your choice.

BlownG8GT
11-17-2008, 07:34 PM
If you go back 3+ yrs, there were a number of people w/ GTO's that were underwhelmed w/ the performance obtained by simply bolting on the maggie. To get where they wanted to be, there were cam swaps, LT's, etc. Pullies WERE an issue. Then they came out w/ the HH Eaton blower, with the implication that it was the blower that was holding back the power. Eaton has now released the TVS blowers (and Magnuson has prepared manifolds, etc so they'll work on these cars), but we're back at a level of power which is closer to 400rwhp than 500rwhp.

I have been vocal about this, but you will see others who have concerns. I realize that CARB is an issue...but then again, it's not all that tricky to have a CARB approved setup, and one that isn't. It's been done by other companies from what I understand.

I have NO concern about this tranny at 500rwhp. The LS2 bottom end proved to be quite stout on the GTO's. The rear end of this car is supposed to be stronger than the VZ cars (GTO). Hence my lack of concern about this power level. And ANYONE who blows up their driveline due to a boosted application is going to pick up the tab on it, not a blower manufacturer.

Perhaps it is a bit naive, but I was actually thinking that we'd see some dyno charts w/ a couple of different pulley sizes, boost levels, etc. We are shown an efficiency chart offering a reported comparison to other forced induction systems...and it has fairly wide parameters. So why not demonstrate what this CAN actually do.

- - - - - - - -

If I'm wasting your electrons activating pixels on your monitor, please forgive me. If you're wasting time reading this...well, that is your choice.

It is a bit naive of you to think that every company can and would go through the EO process. This is a VERY time consuming and costly process that is not for the weak hearted and light pocket book. That being said, you will be seeing more shops taking the supercharger system to its limit, we are bound by the CARB to set this system up and leave it alone.

We engineer and manufacture supercharger systems that will bolt on in 8-10 hours, and give the customer years and miles of performance pleasure. We are not in the business of making maximum HP on a showroom vehicle, it is just not in our best interest or the customers.

The issues in the beginning of the GTO program were brought on by a missed IAT table in the tuning. Once this issue was found, the power and performance came around. Last I checked there are some GTO's running in the 10s and 9s....one of them on a hefty shot of NOS.

As I stated on the other forum, feel free to pick up the phone and give me a call to discuss this further. I would me more than happy to go through it all in person if you would like.

G8GTlawride
11-17-2008, 08:48 PM
What is the cost of this supercharger?

GeorgeInNePa
11-17-2008, 10:30 PM
If you go back 3+ yrs, there were a number of people w/ GTO's that were underwhelmed w/ the performance obtained by simply bolting on the maggie. To get where they wanted to be, there were cam swaps, LT's, etc. Pullies WERE an issue. Then they came out w/ the HH Eaton blower, with the implication that it was the blower that was holding back the power. Eaton has now released the TVS blowers (and Magnuson has prepared manifolds, etc so they'll work on these cars), but we're back at a level of power which is closer to 400rwhp than 500rwhp.

I have been vocal about this, but you will see others who have concerns. I realize that CARB is an issue...but then again, it's not all that tricky to have a CARB approved setup, and one that isn't. It's been done by other companies from what I understand.

I have NO concern about this tranny at 500rwhp. The LS2 bottom end proved to be quite stout on the GTO's. The rear end of this car is supposed to be stronger than the VZ cars (GTO). Hence my lack of concern about this power level. And ANYONE who blows up their driveline due to a boosted application is going to pick up the tab on it, not a blower manufacturer.

Perhaps it is a bit naive, but I was actually thinking that we'd see some dyno charts w/ a couple of different pulley sizes, boost levels, etc. We are shown an efficiency chart offering a reported comparison to other forced induction systems...and it has fairly wide parameters. So why not demonstrate what this CAN actually do.

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If I'm wasting your electrons activating pixels on your monitor, please forgive me. If you're wasting time reading this...well, that is your choice.

I understand completely.

You want what you can not have.

Sorry.

Andy@Livernois
11-18-2008, 04:39 AM
What is the cost of this supercharger?

we do them installed/tuned for 6500 with plugs and all fluids. I think most places sell them for 6850 outright...

It's A G8!
11-18-2008, 03:28 PM
we do them installed/tuned for 6500 with plugs and all fluids. I think most places sell them for 6850 outright...

I thought it already came with a tune?

G8GTlawride
11-18-2008, 05:13 PM
we do them installed/tuned for 6500 with plugs and all fluids. I think most places sell them for 6850 outright...

What is the un-installed cost? Doesn't look to be too terribly difficult to install.

99-LS1-SS
11-18-2008, 05:43 PM
What is the un-installed cost? Doesn't look to be too terribly difficult to install.
$6499 lol

G8GT594
11-18-2008, 06:52 PM
we do them installed/tuned for 6500 with plugs and all fluids. I think most places sell them for 6850 outright...

Nice... So i wonder if i should come to you next year for my cam and this supercharger.

Looks like everyone will be getting a shitty present from me this Christmas LOL

Andy@Livernois
11-18-2008, 07:52 PM
I thought it already came with a tune?

It does, we take it one step further by doing our custom tune with it...


What is the un-installed cost? Doesn't look to be too terribly difficult to install.

Hmm, I will have to check, but probably VERY close to the installed price...


Nice... So i wonder if i should come to you next year for my cam and this supercharger.

Looks like everyone will be getting a shitty present from me this Christmas LOL

do it... you know you want to :D

G8GTlawride
11-18-2008, 07:57 PM
$6499 lol

Haha. Would you do it for a dollar?

G8GT594
11-18-2008, 08:25 PM
do it... you know you want to :D


Of course.

Ive been thinking about this for a while now. Purchase everything all at once and just be done with it.

BlownG8GT
11-18-2008, 08:42 PM
Of course.

Ive been thinking about this for a while now. Purchase everything all at once and just be done with it.

Step closer to the light:headbang:

bwooten492
11-18-2008, 09:48 PM
It looks like there are going to be some CRAZY fast G8's around pretty soon!

BlownG8GT
11-19-2008, 12:01 PM
Update: After 800 miles of average daily driving with quite a few WOT runs I am averaging 24.6 MPG according to the on board computer.....and 23.9 according to my math and record keeping.

Steve
11-19-2008, 12:27 PM
let's slap one in my car.. i'll get that avg down ;) haha i'm LUCKY if i avg 20mpg right now!

BlownG8GT
11-20-2008, 09:40 AM
let's slap one in my car.. i'll get that avg down ;) haha i'm LUCKY if i avg 20mpg right now!

OK:woohoo:

BlownG8GT
12-10-2010, 10:06 PM
Sure do miss this car :(