9psi 546 rwhp Yella Terra Whipple Supercharger VE G8 L98 LS3

[SpeedRacerX]

Interesting TB placement. It's intercooled but I'd like to see where the air filter is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E85tZvA-bGo

What do you guys think of this?

Is that "flappity-slap" sound at :30 supposed to sound like that?

[peterg22000]

the whole thing sounded "flappity-slappy" to me.. not sure I like the sound (other then the beautiful song of great supercharger whine)

[G8GT721]

i don't think the quality is all that good, so that is probably the sound(flappity-flap)

[TooManyHobbies]

I think they are going to rip that tensioner pulley right off.

[MaxPower]

Just bad sound.

I LOOOOVED my 2.3 Whipple on the old Lightning. Made tons of power and torque. It looks like an off-the-shelf Whipple, just modified to work with our setup. Must be a pretty think intercooler core sandwiched under the s/c. I know we don't have the deep valley like the modular motors do, since we're pushrod.

Cost of a Whipple kit for the Lightning was only ~$3k. Can't imagine the cost of one for our vehicles.

[Darkmanx]

wipple isnt interested in the g8 gt so me no care.

[GeorgeInNePa]

wipple isnt interested in the g8 gt so me no care.

This will be a kit produced by Yella Terra.


YELLATERRATEAM (http://www.youtube.com/user/YELLATERRATEAM) — May 27, 2010 — New Yella Terra Whipple Twin screw intercooled supercharger kit for the VE / G8 L98/LS3.

Will be offered in 2.4, 2.9 and 3.4 for the insane!!!

guys.......
the audio isnt that good due to the acousitcs in the factory and my recording ...the exhaust system is so load that its distorting the sound making it sound tinny...apologies

All under bonnet and driven from the front

Care now?

[Mier]

So they're building a kit that I can throw on my GT? My options are becoming overwhelming when it comes to some level of FI.

[wnt2gofst]

I wonder what pricing will be.

[Darkmanx]

This will be a kit produced by Yella Terra.



Care now?
Yeah I do since I'm trying to go fi soon :)

[shane]

very nice

[Darkmanx]

any details on what else the car has? besides a wipple

[Yella Terra]

any details on what else the car has? besides a wipple

All the mods are Bolt on to our 6.0L L98 ...

W-2.4Scharged/ intercooled
Standard ratio Yella Terra ultralights
Special Yella Terra Supercharged cam - we keep it close to our heart but fyi.... 232/238-113
Twin 3" stainless exhaust system
4-1 system will move to a 1 7/8" now that the scharge is on
Yella Terra LS steel flywheel
CI Clutch

Everything else is stock

The sound on the web is ordinary...we will post up a more accurate one once we release the product - July 10 (with pricing)

BJ

[Yella Terra]

I thought Id share this with the GR8 community .......

We also have a 3.4L version we will be releasing for the insane......

[wnt2gofst]

When will pricing be released or where can we go to find this info...



Just seen july 10th....

[fiveoh]

Uh we have L76 not L98 will this be a direct bolt on for our cars? Approximate price range?

[Darkmanx]

yeah a range would be nice , since im in the market for a kit right now.

[travis gore]

All the mods are Bolt on to our 6.0L L98 ...

W-2.4Scharged/ intercooled
Standard ratio Yella Terra ultralights
Special Yella Terra Supercharged cam - we keep it close to our heart but fyi.... 232/238-113
Twin 3" stainless exhaust system
4-1 system will move to a 1 7/8" now that the scharge is on
Yella Terra LS steel flywheel
CI Clutch

Everything else is stock

The sound on the web is ordinary...we will post up a more accurate one once we release the product - July 10 (with pricing)

BJ

thanks for the info, keep us updated

[99-LS1-SS]

All the mods are Bolt on to our 6.0L L98 ...

W-2.4Scharged/ intercooled
Standard ratio Yella Terra ultralights
Special Yella Terra Supercharged cam - we keep it close to our heart but fyi.... 232/238-113
Twin 3" stainless exhaust system
4-1 system will move to a 1 7/8" now that the scharge is on
Yella Terra LS steel flywheel
CI Clutch

Everything else is stock

The sound on the web is ordinary...we will post up a more accurate one once we release the product - July 10 (with pricing)

BJ

Nice!

[GeorgeInNePa]

Uh we have L76 not L98 will this be a direct bolt on for our cars? Approximate price range?

L98 doesn't have DoD, otherwise it's the same.

[Darkmanx]

so. basically the numbers will be almost identical to any other blower numbers without the cam
benifit of a wipple over a tvs?

[ulakovic22]

I'm not super familiar with PD blowers, but that seems to be on par with what the TVS guys are seeing with similar mods. I know the whole Roots v Twin Screw debate, so what's the real world advantage? How high do I have to turn the wick up to notice the effeciency advantage over a Heaton? Is pricing going to be lower, more potential, easier install, etc.?

[ulakovic22]

so. basically the numbers will be almost identical to any other blower numbers without the cam
benifit of a wipple over a tvs?

Most of the numbers I've seen you need a cam to get around 550. Stock Procharger is just below 500 as is a TVS, APS and that's what Kirk from Vector is shooting for. All of them running between 7-9 psi.

[Darkmanx]

Most of the numbers I've seen you need a cam to get around 550. Stock Procharger is just below 500 as is a TVS, APS and that's what Kirk from Vector is shooting for. All of them running between 7-9 psi.

yeah, i guess @ this point price is probally gonna be the only determing factor for most.

[ulakovic22]

yeah, i guess @ this point price is probally gonna be the only determing factor for most.

Price and looks. I like the way the TVS sits under the hood, but there isn't a lot of potential. PC looks like crap even though it's a good system. I was excited about the Vector kit even with the heat related issues, but losing interest. APS is cancelled and to recreate it would cost $$.

[Darkmanx]

Price and looks. I like the way the TVS sits under the hood, but there isn't a lot of potential. PC looks like crap even though it's a good system. I was excited about the Vector kit even with the heat related issues, but losing interest. APS is cancelled and to recreate it would cost $$.

what you mean there isnt alot of potential , theres people making 900 whp on 2300's for me its the heat the sc create im in fl and it gets really hot i had a tvs on another car before i got the g8 and the heat was a real big deal.

[vic2186]

Whipple sounds bad ass..better Build ad cools easier than a Maggie..

[ulakovic22]

what you mean there isnt alot of potential , theres people making 900 whp on 2300's for me its the heat the sc create im in fl and it gets really hot i had a tvs on another car before i got the g8 and the heat was a real big deal.

I've seen some Vette's making big numbers with a TVS, but they are few and far between. The TVS has a sweet spot and you have to figure out what it is for your application and then pulley it accordingly. To make 900 I bet that they had to overdrive the heck out of it so it would be more effecient in the upper RPM range to make that power. It makes for a lazy blower.

[ulakovic22]

For the 6.0L trucks kits are going for $4,600 black and $5,200 polished. I'll have to double check to see if that's a Tuner kit or not.

[Tempest2000]

you really have two options...

spend 7-8k and be happy with 500-550rwhp. whether it be tvs, kb, whipple, turbo, pro charger, etc...

OR

spend 25k+ for more than that because then you are into custom fuel setup, HD axles, driveshaft, full suspension, built trans, built bottom end for the engine, etc.

Maybe it won't break all at once, but as you beef up certain parts another part will fail.

I'm really leaning to hitting 500-550rwhp and stopping. I can't see dumping another 20k into this car when I could put it towards a z06... I like the idea of a 2300 or kb/whipple for possibilities down the road, but I'm afraid my desire for more hp wouldn't stop at 500-550 if the option was available LOL

[MaxPower]

I thought Id share this with the GR8 community .......

We also have a 3.4L version we will be releasing for the insane......

I see the 3.4 suffers from the same inlet bend restriction they had on the Lightnings. Vendors came up with some modified elbows that required "massaging" the firewall to make em fit. Ugly, but freed up another 20 or so HP.

If the full kit is under $5000 (unpolished) - sign me up next year! I miss my Whipple in a BIG way. I'll have to also spec out a decent non-DoD cam to go with it!

[Mier]

you really have two options...

spend 7-8k and be happy with 500-550rwhp. whether it be tvs, kb, whipple, turbo, pro charder, etc...

OR

spend 25k+ for more than that because then you are into custom fuel setup, HD axles, driveshaft, full suspension, built trans, built bottom end for the engine, etc.

Maybe it won't break all at once, but as you beef up certain parts another part will fail.

I'm really leaning to hitting 500-550rwhp and stopping. I can't see dumping another 20k into this car when I could put it towards a z06... I like the idea of a 2300 or kb/whipple for possibilities down the road, but I'm afraid my desire for more hp wouldn't stop at 500-550 if the option was available LOL

That's where I'm going to stop, 500-550. I never had a car with any level of performance till this one and damned if this one didn't put the fear in me. (later turned to sheer joy) I can only imagine that 500+ HP would put that healthy level of fear back again. When I get the cash and gumption together I'll probably storm the boards for help putting together a package to get me there.

[It's A G8!]

I am willing to bet that it wont cost less than 6 g's only because all other superchargers for the G8 cost it. And people still pay the price.

[1ChargedG8]

I want one!!! I will sell my procharger to get a whipple!!

[Kaos]

Looks cool...except they need GRRRR8's heater hose relocation kit. :zing:

[ulakovic22]

I just noticed that Whipple already offers a 2.9L front inlet kit for the 2010 Camaro. What's the deal with running a 2.4L rear entry?

Edit: Base tuner kit is $6,500 and complete is $7,000. Polished casing is a $500 option.

[irnwkrkev]

• Optional 4.5 liter supercharger for race applications

that's from the Camaro listing for the 2.9L!

[ss 6.0]

why to get whilpple not pc or maggie ???

whats more ?

[Darkmanx]

It's June 10th where's the price

[mi04se1]

I think he said July 10.

[Darkmanx]

I think he said July 10.

EWWWWW. reading pwns me

[ulakovic22]

why to get whilpple not pc or maggie ???

whats more ?

Maggie is good and so is the Procharger. It all comes down to what you want and are comfortable with. I don't like the way a PC looks under the hood and I've heard of some fitment problems with larger head units. Maggie is known for having heat issues and not being as effecient up top. Look up the differences between a twin screw design and a roots design.

[BlownPoncho]

I've seen some Vette's making big numbers with a TVS, but they are few and far between. The TVS has a sweet spot and you have to figure out what it is for your application and then pulley it accordingly. To make 900 I bet that they had to overdrive the heck out of it so it would be more effecient in the upper RPM range to make that power. It makes for a lazy blower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZEBwyTGs9s

A Magna Charger MP 2300 does some serious work and produces 950 HP out of a LSX! At 2500 RPM the engine is making 410 HP 855 TQ!

for all you guys thinking that the 2300 doesnt make power... and this is on 15 lbs of boost... and with that much torque downlow i wouldnt call it lazy

[Tempest2000]

a local GTO guy is running a 427 2300 tvs putting out 790rwhp through a 4l80e. That should be real close to 1000fwhp. How much more do you reall need? LOL It is more hp than you can put down even in 4th gear. It'll put it sideways at 100 if you punch it on they highway with M/T's out back

[ulakovic22]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZEBwyTGs9s

A Magna Charger MP 2300 does some serious work and produces 950 HP out of a LSX! At 2500 RPM the engine is making 410 HP 855 TQ!

for all you guys thinking that the 2300 doesnt make power... and this is on 15 lbs of boost... and with that much torque downlow i wouldnt call it lazy

You tube is slow as shit at work so I'll watch later, but I bet he would have made more with a Whipple or KB. Stock LS3 with cam, headers and KB made 700rwhp at 8-8.5psi with only 17* timing on 100 octane. I believe the pump gas tune was 662 with the same boost and only 14* timing on 91.

They say that the gas they get out in NV isn't really good and probably could have made more on E-85, but didn't want to push the stock motor any farther than 700rwhp. In any case with a little over half the boost as a Heaton they are making some serious numbers. Imagine if they had a built motor and turned it up to 15psi like in the link you posted.

[BlownPoncho]

You tube is slow as shit at work so I'll watch later, but I bet he would have made more with a Whipple or KB. Stock LS3 with cam, headers and KB made 700rwhp at 8-8.5psi with only 17* timing on 100 octane. I believe the pump gas tune was 662 with the same boost and only 14* timing on 91.

They say that the gas they get out in NV isn't really good and probably could have made more on E-85, but didn't want to push the stock motor any farther than 700rwhp. In any case with a little over half the boost as a Heaton they are making some serious numbers. Imagine if they had a built motor and turned it up to 15psi like in the link you posted.

im willing to bet that the KB was a 3.2 or the 2.8 significantly larger than 2.3.... more air more power with less boost because boost isnt a measure of how much air the blower is moving

[Tempest2000]

I believe it was a 2.8, but I believe boost is boost regardless of the size of the blower providing it. It just means a bigger blower doesn't spin as hard to get to the same boost. i.e. 1900 tvs runs smaller pulleys to achieve the same boost as a 2300 with larger pullies. I could be wrong though...

A lot of people like to make comparisons between kb's and supra's. They make really good numbers, but they don't run as good as the numbers should indicate at the track.

I'm still waiting to see results from TPE. They are working on a G8 conversion for the 2.8 kb.

[BlownPoncho]

not trying to hijack or put kb down because i would love to have a kb on my g8 but the tvs is just as good as a kb or whipple. any way a 2.8 vs a 3.2 with the same boost on the same motor would make more power because its moving more air. boost is not a measure of air flow as much as it is a measure of back pressure. say you add headers to a blown car you will usually lose about 1 lb of boost but you will make more power because you are moving more air. a tvs 2300 is no match for a 2.8 twin screw but if the displacement was the same it would be very close.... anyway i need money for this kit lol

[ulakovic22]

im willing to bet that the KB was a 3.2 or the 2.8 significantly larger than 2.3.... more air more power with less boost because boost isnt a measure of how much air the blower is moving

I'm not sure how to reply to your post because you already made my point. Boost is the resistance of the air moving through the motor. Just because you have a bigger blower moving more air doesn't mean it will make more power. That's why manufactures always tell customers to buy a blower that matches their needs/wants. That's why you look at compressor maps and such. A twin screw design it just more effecient than a roots design.

[BlownPoncho]

im just saying that if you have a bigger blower it is easier to make close to the same power with less boost because your moving more air which requires more fuel and in the same amount of space would equal more power... and im pretty sure that the twin screw isnt much more efficient than the tvs

[BlownPoncho]

check it out i know its not a kb or whipple but twin screw none the less... this shows tvs being better... i will not argue ts better at high boost though

[ulakovic22]

I can't read that so I can't comment, but it did say Lyshom, which is the father of PD blowers basically. Most TS designs still use lysholm products I believe as well. BTW, I can show you some graphs showing a twin screw is better :) Ask some friends of yours that are big into Fords which one is better, their stock Maggie or a Kenne Bell/Whipple, maybe they can give you more real world data you can relate to.

[Darkmanx]

bump wtf

[ulakovic22]

1 week left and counting. Hopefully this kit doesn't disappoint.

[christiancoach]

July 12th now. Update???

[ulakovic22]

I keep hoping that one day I'll log in and get an update.

[ss 6.0]

nothing new !!!

[Darkmanx]

BUllshit thread for a imaginary kit

[Mier]

In other news I saw a Kenne Bell supercharger on a Camaro. I don't think it'd take too much to get that onto a G8, at least I hope it wouldn't take too much.

I think that's the only thing that sucks for us G8 owners is that we're so few that the performance houses don't see much profit in our market.

[It's A G8!]

?

[Blown396]

Bueller, Bueller.....anyone

[Darkmanx]

lock this thread

[SpeedRacerX]

lock this thread

I agree. Sorry I ever found that video and started this thread.

[hulkss]

Available in November: Yella Terra Whipple (http://v8tvshow.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,108/topic,10497.msg13881/#msg13881)

http://s3.amazonaws.com/ng.digitalmonkey.com.au/release_files/5475/yt_ve_sc-4.jpg

[BATOYGIO]

any other info?

[hulkss]

any other info?

Click the link above the pic

[XXFire]

Oh how I wish this was CARB approved...

[WickedMom]

The magnacharger is carb approved... Even the 2300 on the GT as of last week :)




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[hulkss]

Why you want a Whipple: Why Whipple (http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/content.asp?PageID=67)

Chevy High Performance (http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/tech/engines_drivetrain/shortblock/0901chp_whipple_supercharger_383_small_block_chevy _engine_build/index.html)

http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/images/pages/whyawhipple/morepower.gif

[TooManyHobbies]

Only $12.5K? You can be in a Maggie for half that. Nice to have another option, but not for that amount.

[Darkmanx]

well the tvs in aus is like 13k so its at a competitive price

[MoonPie]

Sounded like someone ran over a small dog at ~30s in

[WickedMom]

well the tvs in aus is like 13k so its at a competitive price

No it isn't... Look up CAPA in Australia. They buy containers at a time...
$10k for a 2300... I bet that's negotiable too

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[Mier]

I love the sound the whipple makes but I can't see spending 12k for that sound. If that price comes down or maybe if I can just get the manifold, I dunno

[Darkmanx]

No it isn't... Look up CAPA in Australia. They buy containers at a time...
$10k for a 2300... I bet that's negotiable too

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Still competive

[XplicitPerformance]

I sure wish Whipple made one for hte G8

[Daniel Linnett]

they should sponsor me and I would throw 3.4 on my 418 and run mid 9s

[XplicitPerformance]

I wonder if this kit is still 12k. Anyone have some contact information? I want to inquire about this kit.