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norm8332
05-20-2010, 12:14 PM
I took my car to the dealer with the understanding that they were going to change all four front control arms (clunking) and they said no, they only do the bad one now. Is this right? I know some had them all replaced because of a defective material issue with the boots. so I get to keep some of the crappy booted ones untill after the warranty it looks like...Thanks GM!

After all this dealer crap, I'm seriously questioning weather I will even buy another GM.

Shredmo
05-20-2010, 12:19 PM
My car is making the clunk. I wonder if I should wait a while until I am sure they are all bad. One thing I loath is making (extra) trips to the service garage.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
05-20-2010, 02:52 PM
Don't wait too long, if one or more gets really bad they can break. I had mine replaced a year ago, but luckily they did both sides when only one was bad. So far it's still rattle free, and I have 33,000 miles on my car.

norm8332
05-20-2010, 03:26 PM
I forgot. This is a holden...

-Ray-
05-20-2010, 04:15 PM
It costs money from GM's bottom line when they replace good parts. I'm sure they weighed the costs of doing them all against multiple trips if another fails.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
05-20-2010, 05:25 PM
It amazes me how some of you have a few issues with your car and you say you'll never buy a GM again. Very rarely does anyone buy a car and it's totally trouble free, no matter who it's made by or what it costs. As Ray said, you can't expect them to replace a part that hasn't failed. I don't know any other car company that would do that, so why do you think GM should?

norm8332
05-20-2010, 05:27 PM
I know, some of them might outlast the warranty after all. Why should they care if their admittedly defective parts fail then. They just saved them self some $$ I wonder if it will compensate for the lost profits the next time I buy a car?:uhm: I know GM is loosing money on my car already, but it's not my fault it was built with so many shotty parts.

That said, and everything fixed. I am happy.

norm8332
05-20-2010, 05:36 PM
My car has been in a GM shop for a total of 85 days. I don't call that "a few" issues.

-Ray-
05-20-2010, 05:44 PM
My car has been in a GM shop for a total of 85 days. I don't call that "a few" issues.

I don't think you were being singled out. We know there have been more than a few problem G8's.

jaxredg8
05-20-2010, 05:48 PM
The only issue I have had is the wait on parts like the 30 days I waited for an alternator. I am going to go out on a limb and say that the first kangaroo they sent with my alternator in its pouch drowned.....

norm8332
05-20-2010, 05:52 PM
I don't think you were being singled out. We know there have been more than a few problem G8's.

I know Ray, Just a bit frustrated. hopefully I wont have any further issues with them. I wonder if something could be put on the boots to help. I'm going to look into it.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
05-20-2010, 05:55 PM
My car has been in a GM shop for a total of 85 days. I don't call that "a few" issues.
Now that's something to complain about. I just might think about buying a non-GM car if that happened to me.

GeoffA
05-20-2010, 07:29 PM
What dealer did you go to? hope it wasn't Mike Smith, cause they wont do shit.

Blackrider
05-20-2010, 07:37 PM
I had all of my LCA's replaced just last week. I guess I was lucky. Now if I can only get them to fix the sunroof creek and vibration i'll be golden!

Seattle09GT
05-20-2010, 07:48 PM
I'm just amazed at all the trouble you guys are having with your cars. Admittedly I'm at a low 10.5K miles but I have no clunk, thunk, vibration, noise, pull, parts falling off, axles breaking, seals leaking, etc. etc. etc.

Guess I'm just lucky and got the one good one those Aussies built, even if they did forget the Bluetooth.

peterg22000
05-21-2010, 06:54 AM
*not reading the whole thread*

her's what I was told yesterday, if you Havent had the Boot recall thing done then they will replave all four arms with the redesigned ones (tighter boots is the only difference) if you HAVE had the boot recall done then swapping arms that havent gone bad would be redundent.


I have been waiting about 5 weeks for the lower passenger arm. and finally had them swap the other 3 yesterday as the clunk and squeek was so bad that it sounded like the car was coming apart.. I felt the left lower arms ball joint after it was odd the car, and it was loose as a 3 cent hooker!

Shredmo
05-21-2010, 07:02 AM
My car has ~7k miles on it and the clunk is not bad... yet, it is noticeable however. I use the car primarily for road trips, joy rides and beer runs. I do not really DD the car as I am a commuter cyclist.

-Ray-
05-21-2010, 01:09 PM
I went to Skillman Buick today and they said the LCA package they receive has all 4 control arms. Mine wernt bad BTW.

Shredmo
05-21-2010, 01:15 PM
I went to Skillman Buick today and they said the LCA package they receive has all 4 control arms. Mine wernt bad BTW.

This is good to know. Right now I have my stock axle backs installed. Probably should drop in the stock ECU, then take the car in on Monday. I'll find out if the dealer has a problem w/the rotofab because I'm not changing that out.

-Ray-
05-21-2010, 01:18 PM
I took my G8 as is. Tune, headers, torque converter, flowmasters, the whole thing baby!

DRCUSTOMPARTS
05-21-2010, 01:23 PM
I went to Skillman Buick today and they said the LCA package they receive has all 4 control arms. Mine wernt bad BTW.
It is possible some dealers split up the the package if all the LCA's don't need to be replaced.

Shredmo
05-21-2010, 01:29 PM
I took my G8 as is. Tune, headers, torque converter, flowmasters, the whole thing baby!

At some point, you can't hide certain mods. If you have headers, I assume it isn't practical to remove them for a standard dealer visit.

Wife needed a 5 passenger car to take colleagues to school 100 miles away (Iowa State). I figured they would not appreciate the Pypes like I do. So long as the bolts are clean, replacing them takes 10-15 minutes (+ beer time). I can't believe how quiet the car is now. I probably don't need to worry about my mods, as the tune isn't visible and the rest are pretty simple. My biggest fear with the tune is they will write over it somehow. That is my luck!

norm8332
05-21-2010, 01:39 PM
I'm taking it to another dealer. My suspension is 100% stock including stock tires, and the car has never been to a track (yet). It's not a warranty issue. I think I just found an even more inept dealer than the last one. I think I'll just take it back to the last one. at least they eventually fixed it correctly.

GeoffA
05-21-2010, 01:45 PM
Give Heinrich a call, talk to Paul Collins the service Mgr.

norm8332
05-21-2010, 03:24 PM
Will do..Thanks, I bought my car before the G8 from them. Even sent me a nice thank you gift. It's a bit far, I'll have to recruit a driver.

GeoffA
05-21-2010, 03:43 PM
I'm a good driver, especially if it has a maggie :devil:

peterg22000
05-21-2010, 03:54 PM
This is good to know. Right now I have my stock axle backs installed. Probably should drop in the stock ECU, then take the car in on Monday. I'll find out if the dealer has a problem w/the rotofab because I'm not changing that out.



they wont care about any of those mods for suspention work.. now if you blow your motor, then they might say something about the ECU..

08jbelt
05-21-2010, 04:00 PM
I currently have 38,000 miles on my g8 and i cant seem to to find any auto parts stores that carry the lower control arms. Does anybody have an idea were to get them other than the dealer?

Panzer Leader
05-21-2010, 04:21 PM
So again I ask the question, wasn't Pedders and BMR developing LCAs? And BTW, if the stock LCAs go out and cause accidents, then class action lawsuits are the result. Anything to save a buck.

Snakey
05-21-2010, 04:30 PM
I had mine in a couple weeks ago and they told me the parts were on national backorder and wouldn't be in until Aug. 16th. Just got called two days ago that said the part numbers had changed and that all 4 were in along with my door striker. Does this mean they did something different with the LCA's and does anyone know what the latest and greatest part number is?! I want to make sure they get this right as this is going to be the third set!

GeoffA
05-21-2010, 04:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcjPSPsWLAQ


OK I suspected this might be what was going on based on the new part numbers and current availability.
I've just confirmed it.
The new part numbers you have are off 2010 model year VE.
I do not know what changes were made such that new part numbers were issued.
Hopefully revised balljoints.


2010 Front Suspension Lower Control Arms.

Front "dogleg" Lower Control Arm #7 LH = 92244047
Front "dogleg" Lower Control Arm #7 RH = 92244046

Rear "straight" Lower Control Arm #5 LH = 92244051
Rear "straight" Lower Control Arm #5 RH = 92244050

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/R1010023_01.jpg

http://Forum.grrrr8.net/showthread.php?t=9554&highlight=lower+control+arm

zepcom
05-21-2010, 05:05 PM
Great thread. Next month my car will be going in for the LCA's, among a few other warrantee issues, to be addressed. I've never had them replaced yet. GeoffA, thanks for that diagram, I think I will bring that in to hopefully help my case.

Good luck, Norm. Hope going to Heindrich works out. Geoff has had good luck with them so far.

-Ray-
05-21-2010, 05:16 PM
It is possible some dealers split up the the package if all the LCA's don't need to be replaced.

I'm sure there are dealers out there trying to make a buck.

jeppsG8
05-22-2010, 08:37 AM
I'm not sure if this was a recall or a TSB? Or is it just a known problem?

I'm going in next week for an elusive rattle that 2 dealers cannot replicate but my wife and I cannot stand because it does it all the time. I'm also still waiting for motor mounts replacements to fix the drive line TSB. They also can't duplicate the 2-3 flare. Of course none of the techs have driven another G8 before. So road trip to another dealer far far away. I will ask about the clunk noise we get on the passenger side front end too.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
05-22-2010, 08:53 AM
#09-03-08-008: Knock Clunk Or Click Noise From Front Suspension Over Small Bumps (Replace Front Lower Control And Caster Arms) - (Oct 5, 2009)

Subject: Knock, Clunk or Click Noise from Front Suspension Over Small Bumps (Replace Front Lower Control and Caster Arms)

Models: 2008-2009 Pontiac G8

Panzer Leader
05-22-2010, 08:59 AM
#09-03-08-008: Knock Clunk Or Click Noise From Front Suspension Over Small Bumps (Replace Front Lower Control And Caster Arms) - (Oct 5, 2009)

Subject: Knock, Clunk or Click Noise from Front Suspension Over Small Bumps (Replace Front Lower Control and Caster Arms)

Models: 2008-2009 Pontiac G8

Good Doctor you are totally correct. But sometimes even if you have the prescription, the pharmacy will not fill it. I just found out that the dealer is backing out on the new driveshaft on mine. At this point, I think the TSBs are only good for letting me know that I need to look for aftermarket parts and service.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
05-22-2010, 09:12 AM
You might have to find a different dealer, mine always checks out any TSB's and performs the work if it's needed.

Dustin
05-22-2010, 02:35 PM
I wish you were in Central Illinois. I work at a former Pontiac dealer/current Buick GMC, being on this forum has helped quite a few customers. It helps that I love the G8, but sometimes the techs get annoyed with me poking around their area when there is a G8 in the shop rofl.

CanadianEh
05-22-2010, 04:50 PM
I am getting mine done under warranty, they were ordered this week. They are replacing 3 of them I guess

Panzer Leader
05-22-2010, 06:18 PM
Does anyone know if Pedders and/or BMR are still developing either the LCA or replacement ball joints ofhigher OEM quality. This issue is never going away and yet we hear that hese two companies are going to do it.

zepcom
06-15-2010, 10:52 AM
Today I got my car evaluated for the LCA TSB at the local Pontiac dealership, and they ordered a full set of 4 of them. Now begins the waiting game until they come in and can be installed.

I guess that I'm happy that they were approved to replace all 4... :thumbsup:

norm8332
06-15-2010, 12:00 PM
Which dealer please, because mine still aren't installed!! I'm looking to take it elsewhere.

Snakey
06-15-2010, 04:47 PM
I just got mine done a week ago and there is a new part number out that is for all 4 LCA's that caused some confusion. Double check their part numbers with what Crazy Paul listed here as the newest LCA's.

HOPEFULLY these will last for a longer period of time than the others. I'm on my third set.

Panzer Leader
06-15-2010, 06:53 PM
Glad I got the extended warranty. Still love the car and hopefully it will last. Plan on having the entire checked out when the BMR Parts go on. And still I asked the question, BMR and Pedders what are you doing? Are you still developing improved parts? Thanks.

ashaal
06-15-2010, 07:53 PM
I have ~24000 miles on my G8 GT...I have not noticed any issues with noises when driving...should I just schedule an appointment and get them replaced or wait for some signs of failure.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
06-15-2010, 08:10 PM
The dealer won't replace them unless they are bad, so if your car is rattle free you don't have to worry about it.

zepcom
06-16-2010, 04:26 AM
Which dealer please, because mine still aren't installed!! I'm looking to take it elsewhere.

Norm,

Yesterday I went to Cappellino's. Pat was my service advisor. He insisted that the tech get it 'up on the lift' to inspect it, but about 25 minutes later the car was pulled around and I was told that they ordered all 4, even though only one or two were bad.

For my "ammo", I had printed out the TSB with the VIN breakpoints (I think SRG963 posted two JPG images of the actual TSB, and my car fell into that "VIN Breakpoint" so I brought that along) ... and I was also armed with the general description of the TSB about the 'clunking in the front end due to bad rubber cracking in harsh temperatures'.

I wasn't going to leave that dealership without closure. :boxing:

Best of luck to you.

'02 ws6
06-16-2010, 04:47 AM
At least you guy's rides are getting fixed....and not being told "We couldn't replicate the clunk you're referring to so our guess it's road/tire noise." Gimme a fookin break...going to diffferent dealer tomorrow or Friday. For the time being I'm going to be saving all the links to the TSB's and all associated threads to this lol. Push comes to shove I'll have WickedMom on standby with the pimp hand ready and willing to offer any evidence of such TSBs, recalls, etc, if they choose not to believe my claim like the last dealersip did!

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13 QTR
06-16-2010, 04:14 PM
I've been waiting since October for mine to be fixed. I just checked last friday and the 'estimated' delievery of a shipment is August 13th.....so a 8 month backorder... Only thing is....the dealership doesn't know if that shipment has a set allocated for them(mine).

Snakey
06-16-2010, 05:17 PM
I've been waiting since October for mine to be fixed. I just checked last friday and the 'estimated' delievery of a shipment is August 13th.....so a 8 month backorder... Only thing is....the dealership doesn't know if that shipment has a set allocated for them(mine).

I was originally told this date too, but my dealership found out there was another part number that was the correct ones to order and they showed up within weeks. Look on here for the diagram and part numbers Crazy Paul has posted and have them check the status of them.

texn884
06-16-2010, 06:55 PM
How do we get all the TSB's that have been issued for our G8 GT's?
I have a great relationship with my Chevy Service writer and he has done things on my Colorado and Suburban to get things done under warranty.

I guess they can punch in the VIN and any and all will show up.

Let me know.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
06-16-2010, 07:34 PM
Here's a lot of TSB's for the G8:

http://forum.grrrr8.net/forumdisplay.php?f=74

Identity Crisis
06-17-2010, 03:23 PM
Hey now all you haters. LOL Don't get down on your G8 just cause of a clunk or bad customer service. These cars are great.

I myself have been waiting two weeks for all four of my control arms to come in. And I irritated? YES! Do I hate my car? NO!

nonexistent
06-18-2010, 01:51 PM
For the problems with the dealers not being able to replicate, remind them that the car probably has to be warm or hot for the sound to appear. I told mine to let the car run for at least half an hour, because I dropped it off at 8 AM and they called me to tell me that they were looking at it around 4 PM. So, 8 hour waiting period means no noise.

Basically, symptoms appear after the car has completely warmed up and has been driven a little bit. At least that's how it is for me, so give it a shot guys. Good luck.

Oh and BTW, I brought my car in over a month ago, dealer still has not received the LCA. So, eh.

krewsman
06-18-2010, 09:52 PM
My dealer has been nothing less than perfect with the niggling bits that they've fixed for me--all 4 LCA's were changed out after the initial boot replacement proved to be futile, but the rattle still remained. In the end it took patience and talking directly to the techs, taking them for a ride so they could hear the noise, even when they "could not duplicate" (mine went away when the car was warm, and they always had it inside the warm shop before a test ride). In the end, my rattle and clunk turned out to be a bad LF strut which was also replaced quickly with no waiting. If you guys are not getting satisfaction from your current dealer, try another if at all possible. I wouldn't trade my G8, or my dealer, for anything!

GregC63
06-20-2010, 06:44 AM
I have had LCA's replaced on both sides and I am about to have the left one replaced again this week. I've had the car for 1 1/2 years and it has 22,000 miles on it.
Normally, I am happy with the dealer I have been taking it to, but the last time I asked the service rep what I was going to do when it went out of warranty and they continue to do this, he told me to buy an extended warranty. My response to him was, "If you paid 30K for a car, would you expect that the bushings in the LCA would last more than a year and then have to listen to that God awful clunk everytime you went over any sort of bump? I really don't think I should need to buy and extended warranty for that."

Is there an actual recall for this issue or is it just a service bulletin?

I love the car, best car I have every owned. Hopefully GM can come up with a permanent solution to this issue.

GL3
06-25-2010, 04:01 PM
In California, there is the law of merchantability. This means that they must warrant what would be a reasonable expectation of merchantability or a product should perform properly for the reasonable period of time unless abused (purchasers use beyond intended use) which would be for example, hitting curbs, roads that should only be used for 4 wheel drive etc.. Thus the reasonable expectation that a warranty issue should fix the problem permanently and not be repeatedly required because it is a design defect. It would also go to the lemon law of 4 times it can't be repaired properly they must repurchase the automobile. Don't let them call it a motor vehicle as it is not! Different rules would apply. Federal definiiton of Motor Vehicle is found in Title 18 USC section 31. (United States Code) BTW.

BLKG8
07-02-2010, 03:14 PM
Just had all four LCA's replaced. And they werent even bad. Took my car in for another thing and remembered this problem. So it was in for 3 days. not bad.

norm8332
07-02-2010, 03:31 PM
Today, they finally replaced only the bad one. wow.

rez0nance
07-09-2010, 11:40 AM
I'm dealing with this now too. Started hearing the clunk from the driver side front wheel a week or two ago, took it in today. Told my service writer (who I've gone to for a few visits before) that there was a TSB, and to check the LCAs.

He called me around noon, said the car was ready, and that he ordered one LCA. I told him I was under the impression that GM was replacing all of them for a new design. When I went to pick the car up, I noticed there were fingerprints on the wheel, and he said they tried moving the wheel and it was in fact loose. He said the bulletin specified to only repair the bad one. I just rechecked the TSB now and it only says that if the car has had the suspension recall done, which my car (in a warm state) has not.

I'm going to try to get back in touch with him today and specify that the TSB says to replace all 4 if they have not had the recall. I'm hoping I can resolve this easily, but just in case, does anyone have the Pontiac/GM customer satisfaction (or whatever it's called) number available?

I'm sure you all feel the same way, but if this is a known design flaw on the original arms (as the new part numbers involved seem to suggest), then I'd rather they all get replaced while I still have warranty.

norm8332
07-09-2010, 11:55 AM
Yeah I think GM realized that this problem is becoming a cash drain bigger than they expected so they are trying to get people out of the 3/36 warranty by running the clock.

Oh, and BTW, I have the clunking already from another one, It's only been two weeks since the last was changed.

rez0nance
07-09-2010, 11:58 AM
Yeah I think GM realized that this problem is becoming a cash drain bigger than they expected so they are trying to get people out of the 3/36 warranty by running the clock.

I don't think you can blame this on GM, if their own TSB states to replace all 4 arms for the new design. I think it's a dealer issue.

rez0nance
07-09-2010, 12:55 PM
Unreal. Just spoke to the service manager, and it seems like actually looking at a TSB might steal his soul. He gave me crap about "getting this from the internet" (when I didn't say anything other than "this is a GM TSB"), there not being any safety recalls on my car ("it's not a recall, I'm talking about a TSB"), and finally claiming the TSB wasn't showing up for him. Really.

It's unreal that I have to jump through so many hoops for this shit. It's not like he's paying for the parts out of his own or his dealer's pocket. If it's a TSB, then GM is paying.

Time to escalate this to the Pontiac Customer Assistance number. I really wish I didn't have to go through this hassle.

rez0nance
07-09-2010, 01:28 PM
Update: I spoke to Pontiac Customer Assistance - for those wondering, the number is in your warranty booklet: (800)762-2737. I explained the issue and my concern that I didn't want a part known to be a defective design - and replaced with a new part number because of it - to fail on my car after the warranty was out. He stated that he totally understood, and put me on hold for a bit to call the dealership. When he came back he said he was escalating it to a Pontiac District Specialist, who would be contacting me within 1-2 business days. It seems they're serious about solving this.

I'll update this as it develops. Until then, it seems like anyone who's been getting resistance about replacing all four LCAs as TSB #09-03-08-008 explicitly states to do (unless you've had Campaign 09203A performed) should escalate this to GM.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
07-09-2010, 01:35 PM
That's unreal alright, when I told the dealer I had a rattle in the front end traveling over bumps at low speed, they ordered 4 new lower control arms. I didn't have to tell them about a TSB and they didn't even look it up, they just took care of the problem. It sounds like the people at your dealer are idiots.

rez0nance
07-09-2010, 01:39 PM
I am LMAO right now.

I just got a call from my adviser. After that call from GM, he was suddenly able to find the TSB, and said that I was right, all 4 need to be replaced. He also checked with the parts manager, and the part they ordered is a kit, that comes with all 4.

Issue resolved. Anyone that's having issues, escalate it to GM and you will magically have the planets align for you.

LMAO. Oh man.

ETA: Oh and in case my amusement gives anyone the wrong idea, I was completely cordial during the call and at no points were any "I told you so-s" ever said or even slightly hinted at. I was just laughing inside.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
07-09-2010, 01:42 PM
It seems you made a fool out of your service adviser, maybe from now on he'll believe the customer.

rez0nance
07-09-2010, 01:46 PM
It seems you made a fool out of your service adviser, maybe from now on he'll believe the customer.

It's sad Don: like I told a buddy, it's because of this attitude from dealers that GM keeps bleeding. Guys like us know enough to separate the dealers from the company when it comes to who to blame, but as we've seen on this very forum, not everyone does. GM is making some great cars, but their service departments are sabotaging their efforts.

Oh well, at the very least, this reminds me why I do all non-warranty work myself anyway.

DRCUSTOMPARTS
07-09-2010, 01:53 PM
I do all my own non-warranty work too, then I know it's done right. I still haven't used the free oil change coupon they sent me.

zepcom
07-09-2010, 05:27 PM
Update to my situation:

Today I picked up the car and verified that the dealership replaced all 4 front LCA's as per the TSB notes, and I got a free 4-wheel alignment out of the deal as well!

Glad this is behind me!

yield2ten
08-03-2010, 06:29 PM
I believe I have the same problem with my 08 GT. I bought it used from a private sale so I don't think the 36,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty will cover this. Will I have to pay for this to be fixed? If so, any idea how much it will probably run me?

DRCUSTOMPARTS
08-03-2010, 07:11 PM
If your car has less than 36K miles the warranty will cover the LCA's. You still have a full factory bumper to bumper warranty even though you bought it used, plus you also have a 5 yr 100K mile powertrain warranty.

yield2ten
08-04-2010, 08:47 AM
If your car has less than 36K miles the warranty will cover the LCA's. You still have a full factory bumper to bumper warranty even though you bought it used, plus you also have a 5 yr 100K mile powertrain warranty.

Sweet, for some reason I think the dealer told me the bumper to bumper was NOT transferrable, but that may have been because he wanted me to buy the one he had.
This wouldn't be covered under the powertrain warranty, would it?

yield2ten
08-17-2010, 04:18 PM
So I just had my car at the dealer, dropped it off this morning, and picked it up this evening. They said one of the control arms was loose, but they replaced all 4 of them. He said it is a slightly revised part. I told him I was surprised that they had the control arms in stock because I had heard about some people having to wait a long time to get them in. He told me that they had stocked up on them when they heard what was going on. They also machined the rotors for free and lubed the steering shaft (not sure what it was exactly called) because of the moaning noise when turning. Hopefully this does the trick, at least for a long time. Just wanted to share my positive experience. I was a little worried after reading some of the stories on here about this issue.

texn884
08-17-2010, 04:34 PM
How can you tell the LCA's are bad?

At about 30-45mph when I hit the brake peddle the steering wheel shakes back and forth. Could this from from the LCA's or the rotors?

yield2ten
08-17-2010, 05:03 PM
I noticed clunking noises when going over large bumps, and there was significant vibration in the steering wheel under heavy braking. I'm not sure if the LCAs had anything to do with the steering wheel vibration or not, but it seemed to start at the same time as the clunking. I also started getting a moaning noise when I turned the steering wheel at the same time. It just seems strange that everything started happening at once.

Panzer Leader
08-17-2010, 06:23 PM
Read the Pedders write up on the FOR SALE Thread regarding the Pedders GT for sale.

zepcom
08-18-2010, 05:12 AM
Read the Pedders write up on the FOR SALE Thread regarding the Pedders GT for sale.

Huh? What does this have to do with LCA's?