Injectors for Procharger

[wreckwriter]

Prochargers comes in 2 versions, the full kit and the "tuner kit" which is without tune and injectors. Their tune isn't going to work for me, I'll need Kirk to do a custom tune due to other mods anyway so that part is pretty much useless. The injectors I'll need, but what size is needed? Where, and for how much, can I source the needed injectors?

[Andy@Livernois]

The kit lists it coming with 50 lb/hr injectors, but let me check into something a little bigger like 57's. Also let me know if you need a price on the kits ;)

[wreckwriter]

The kit lists it coming with 50 lb/hr injectors, but let me check into something a little bigger like 57's. Also let me know if you need a price on the kits ;)

Well I've got a couple seriously good options on the Charger itself...

[Crazy Paul]

Check the details on what they are trying to sell you also.

LS7/L76 Injector
Stock 39lb/hr
GM # 12576341
USCar connector
48 mm O-ring to O-ring
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/DSCF1896_03.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/P1010149-1.jpg


LS2 style Injector
Stock 33lb/hr
USCar connector
52 mm O-ring to O-ring

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/ev62.jpg
Bosch 52lb/hr pictured here
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/52lb-Bosch.jpg
Bosch 47lb/hr pictured here
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/8741wb.jpg



LS1 style Injector
Jetronic Plug
65 mm O ring to O ring
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/EV6-LS1injector.jpg


LS2 v Blue Giant(LS1 style)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/bluegiant.jpg

Stock LS2 v Stock LS1
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/LS2LS1.jpg



If you got sold a set of LS1 style injectors then you'd need a set of injector harness adapters ~$80
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/203739-LS1toGen4I.jpg

and a set of custom fat O rings, fuel rail height spacers, and longer fuel rail mounting bolts ~$25
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/0b4f_1.jpg

[wreckwriter]

The kit lists it coming with 50 lb/hr injectors, but let me check into something a little bigger like 57's. Also let me know if you need a price on the kits ;)

Any further info on injector options?

[GRRRR8]

What info do you need? Where to get or how big. I think 50s with a stock motor will be fine, 57s with a cam and charger, but I think I would put a better pump in it at the same time. Procharger pumps leave a lot to be desired.

[wreckwriter]

I'm still trying to decide if I need the full kit or the tuner kit. Tuner kit is minus injectors and tune. My assumption is that since I have a few bolt-ons the tune they supply isn't going to cut it so Kirk is going to have to tweak it fairly heavily no matter what. Maybe better to just let him go from jump (obviously I need his thoughts too) rather than flashing my VMS ECM back to stock, getting it tuned by PC and then having him tweak from there.

If I go with that method I'll need to supply my own injectors too so need to know what's out there. Would prefer not to have to use all the adapters if possible.

What pump would you suggest?

[GRRRR8]

I will do some research and get back with you on whats available.

[wreckwriter]

Thanks Charlie.

[99-LS1-SS]

I'll be interested to see too.

[Kirk@VectorMotorsports]

Any further info on injector options?


We use 62lb injectors on all of our LS3 ProCharger kits.

These are direct fit injectors for the G8. No wiring adapters needed.

Idle quality is excellent due to the great spray pattern at a low pulse-width.

[wreckwriter]

We use 62lb injectors on all of our LS3 ProCharger kits.

These are direct fit injectors for the G8. No wiring adapters needed.

Idle quality is excellent due to the great spray pattern at a low pulse-width.

Excellent. I'll be calling you before long to discuss this I think.

[MANOFSTEEL69]

Is there a difference in cost between the procharger and the magnacharger?

[Andy@Livernois]

Any further info on injector options?

I am sorry, I followed up with our injector guy, but Never posted (dummy me) Here is the pic on the 65 lb/hr injector we use for all of these (this would be for high boost applications when used in concert with head/cam as we have done over 750 rwhp with the 65)

http://www.compperformancegroupstores.com/store/graphics/00000002/30397-1_600.jpg


What info do you need? Where to get or how big. I think 50s with a stock motor will be fine, 57s with a cam and charger, but I think I would put a better pump in it at the same time. Procharger pumps leave a lot to be desired.

The stock pump is a good quality piece, We haven't pushed a G8 that hard yet, but the pump comes from the same supplier as the Corvette pump, and only the basket is different. On a vette we have done 650 rwhp for over 20k on the stock pump and a boost-a-pump and it's still got some left :D


I'm still trying to decide if I need the full kit or the tuner kit. Tuner kit is minus injectors and tune. My assumption is that since I have a few bolt-ons the tune they supply isn't going to cut it so Kirk is going to have to tweak it fairly heavily no matter what. Maybe better to just let him go from jump (obviously I need his thoughts too) rather than flashing my VMS ECM back to stock, getting it tuned by PC and then having him tweak from there.

If I go with that method I'll need to supply my own injectors too so need to know what's out there. Would prefer not to have to use all the adapters if possible.

What pump would you suggest?

If you are going to stay in the 550-600 rwhp the stock pump should be ok, I would get the tuner kit, as they full kit will not compensate for headers, and they make you send your pcm and have it flashed, leaving the tcm unchanged...



Is there a difference in cost between the procharger and the magnacharger?

The cost is probably similar when installed, the kit itself is cheaper, but it takes about twice the labor to install...

[Crazy Paul]

Ford Racing M-9593-G302
Bosch 0280158117
47 lb/hr @ All injector flow rates are quoted at a delta pressure of 39.15 psi.
= 56 lb/hr @ 58 psi

EV14
12 Ohm
USCAR electrical connector.
Length 2-1/2"

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/FordRacingG302.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/P1010521_02.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/P1010522_03.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/P1010525_02.jpg


Perfect
:)

[G8GT721]

is there a problem running oversized injectors?

[Crazy Paul]

is there a problem running oversized injectors?

They're only necessary if you are putting down that much power that you are maxing out the duty cycle of your stock LS7 injectors.
Upgrading the injectors alone on a stock or near stock engine does nothing.
The tune needs to be modded to compensate fuel tables etc whenever you change to a different size injector.

[zosoboogie]

haddad is recommending 60 lbs injectors for an upgrade on my magnacharger would this be bad for the engine or would it have a negative outcome?
they are recommended the following:
Magnavolt -
Shorty 60# Injectors -
Injector Harness Adapters -
3.0" Pulley -
Kooks 1 7/8" Long Tubes -

Kooks 3" Catted X-Pipe -
or
Kooks 3" Off Road X-Pipe -

This would bump the hp to over 500!!
However I also was interested in the new corsa system that is coming out soon and with the kooks 1 7/8" headers!
I love love any input!

[Kirk@VectorMotorsports]

haddad is recommending 60 lbs injectors for an upgrade on my magnacharger would this be bad for the engine or would it have a negative outcome?


We have used more than 30 sets of 60-70lb injectors in LSX engines.

We tested them for a large name injector company and have a set in a STOCK LS1 Camaro engine with no problems for the last 2 years.

No issues.

[Panther 2]

Did you call procharger to see what they reccommend ?