Livernois DOD delete kit now available!!! [Archive] - GRRRR8.net

Andy@Livernois

11-05-2008, 11:20 AM

Ok guys, I have put together the Parts in a kit for the G8.

This kit will include the following:

Livernois Motorsports Stage 1 Camshaft Specifically engineered for 6.0 engines using L92 heads
GMPP LS7 Lifters
GMPP Balancer Bolt
GMPP LS2 Valley Cover
GMPP Valve Cover Breather Block-Off
GMPP LS7 Camshaft Sprocket
GMPP Timing Chain Dampner
GMPP PCV hose for non-DOD applications
GMPP LS2 Lifter guide kit
GMPP MLS Header Gaskets
ARP Camshaft Retainer plate bolts
ARP Timing Chain Bolts
ARP Head Bolts
Cometic MLS Head Gaskets
Livernois Motorsports Exclusive Dual valve springs good to .690" lift
Livernois Titanium Retainers
Livernois Motorsports Super 7 locks
Livernois Spring Cups
Livernois High-temp Viton Valve Seals
Trend Performance .080 Chrome Moly Pushrods

This package includes everything you should need to delete the DOD system on your G8 and pick up a good amount of power as well :D

$1239.00

breakinparts

11-05-2008, 11:54 AM

Who is the manufacturer of the valve springs?

Andy@Livernois

11-05-2008, 12:03 PM

pm sent

GXPaycheck

11-05-2008, 01:22 PM

It doesn't come with a sticker??

Ok guys, I have put together the Parts in a kit for the G8.

This kit will include the following:

Livernois Motorsports Stage 1 L92 Camshaft
GMPP LS7 Lifters
GMPP Balancer Bolt
GMPP LS2 Valley Cover
GMPP Valve Cover Breather Block-Off
GMPP LS7 Camshaft Sprocket
GMPP Timing Chain Dampner
GMPP PCV hose for non-DOD applications
GMPP LS2 Lifter guide kit
GMPP MLS Header Gaskets
ARP Camshaft Retainer plate bolts
ARP Timing Chain Bolts
ARP Head Bolts
Cometic MLS Head Gaskets
Livernois Motorsports Exclusive Dual valve springs good to .690" lift
Livernois Titanium Retainers
Livernois Motorsports Super 7 locks
Livernois Spring Cups
Livernois High-temp Viton Valve Seals
Trend Performance .080 Chrome Moly Pushrods

This package includes everything you should need to delete the DOD system on your G8 and pick up a good amount of power as well :D

$1239.00

Andy@Livernois

11-05-2008, 01:29 PM

nope, it comes with 2!!! :D

wreckwriter

11-05-2008, 01:30 PM

What's the "Valve Cover Breather Block-Off"? I wasn't aware we had a breather....

Andy@Livernois

11-05-2008, 01:32 PM

It's technically a little red cap that plugs the pcv/breather pipe...

-Ray-

11-05-2008, 01:36 PM

What's the "Valve Cover Breather Block-Off"? I wasn't aware we had a breather....

It's that thread that got bumped today, that EC Ryder started.

wreckwriter

11-05-2008, 01:37 PM

It's technically a little red cap that plugs the pcv/breather pipe...

Hmmmmm..... At the back end on the driver's side i assume. So what happens to the PCV system? Is it removed and plugged on both ends? That doesn't make sense, all cars have PCV, its not part of AFM. I'm confused I guess.

-Ray-

11-05-2008, 01:40 PM

You do get another breather hose, so it must plug in somewhere.

Andy@Livernois

11-05-2008, 01:54 PM

that breather hose runs from the valley cover to the intake manifold...

wreckwriter

11-05-2008, 01:56 PM

So you're saying the PCV system is deleted?

Andy@Livernois

11-05-2008, 02:00 PM

no, it just runs straight into the manifold now from the valley if memory serves. It doesn't use the long plastic lines any more. Just like on an LS2 application. This setup pulls far less oil into the intake then the valve cover system does...

wreckwriter

11-05-2008, 02:12 PM

Cool. thanks!

GeorgeInNePa

11-05-2008, 02:22 PM

10)
12570471 LS2 Valley Cover

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/LS2valleycover1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/valleycoverunder.jpg

Those 8x O rings underneath block off the previous oil supply from the L76 Lifter Oil Manifold Assembly to the Collapsible DOD Lifters. Some engine builders additionally like to tap threads into these galleries and plug them with (Qty 8) 1/8"NPT allen plugs.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/Plugs202839020x2029229.jpg

11) PCV Hose - Dirty Air (as per LS2)
Part# for the LS2 dirty air hose is 12594779
It goes from the LS2 valley cover to the side of the intake manifold.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/214ac0a3-34be-4c8a-98e7-3d63.jpg

12) Plug (as per LS2)
*Part# for the LS2 Plug is 12579145*
The existing L76 PCV outlet on the drivers side rear valve cover needs to be plugged.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/LS2-600.jpg

Plug....Bottom left in this pic.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/P1010015.jpg

This should explain it , wreck. From Crazy Pauls thread on DoD Delete.

wreckwriter

11-05-2008, 02:24 PM

Yea, that helps. Thanks George.

jbradsh1

11-05-2008, 03:13 PM

Ok guys, I have put together the Parts in a kit for the G8.

This kit will include the following:

Livernois Motorsports Stage 1 L92 Camshaft
GMPP LS7 Lifters
GMPP Balancer Bolt
GMPP LS2 Valley Cover
GMPP Valve Cover Breather Block-Off
GMPP LS7 Camshaft Sprocket
GMPP Timing Chain Dampner
GMPP PCV hose for non-DOD applications
GMPP LS2 Lifter guide kit
GMPP MLS Header Gaskets
ARP Camshaft Retainer plate bolts
ARP Timing Chain Bolts
ARP Head Bolts
Cometic MLS Head Gaskets
Livernois Motorsports Exclusive Dual valve springs good to .690" lift
Livernois Titanium Retainers
Livernois Motorsports Super 7 locks
Livernois Spring Cups
Livernois High-temp Viton Valve Seals
Trend Performance .080 Chrome Moly Pushrods

This package includes everything you should need to delete the DOD system on your G8 and pick up a good amount of power as well :D

$1239.00

I know it's been somewhat posted somewhere before but what's a good ballpark labor cost for the install Andy?

wreckwriter

11-05-2008, 03:17 PM

pm sent

Send me the same please.

Andy@Livernois

11-05-2008, 03:22 PM

I know it's been somewhat posted somewhere before but what's a good ballpark labor cost for the install Andy?

off the top of my head its probably +2540 w/ a tune if you bought the parts, and then had them installed later. But I think I figured out a package that would be around 3500-3600 if everything was bought and done at the same time...

Andy@Livernois

11-05-2008, 03:23 PM

Send me the same please.

sent

wreckwriter

11-05-2008, 03:24 PM

sent

Thanks Andy. Good answer too :)

jbradsh1

11-05-2008, 03:47 PM

Thanks Andy. Good answer too :)

Same here.

-Ray-

11-05-2008, 03:50 PM

I'm pretty sure I'm going to do this, but it will be at the end of Feb., after I get my next commission check. I need to build my shop now.

GeorgeInNePa

11-05-2008, 03:56 PM

I'm pretty sure I'm going to do this, but it will be at the end of Feb., after I get my next commission check. I need to build my shop now.

I'm thinking tax rebate.

-Ray-

11-05-2008, 04:00 PM

Yeah, we better use those, we may get another one. LOL
I have a project I'm starting in Jan.

Mike@NewEra

11-05-2008, 08:09 PM

The breather cap comes with the valley cover when you order it from GM .

Andy@Livernois

11-06-2008, 05:01 AM

hmm, I have never seen the black one in that valley cover kit, only the red when we have ordered it. I will have to double check. Either way it wouldnt really effect the price on it...

norm8332

11-06-2008, 09:09 AM

Unless I missed it, Any Idea on HP/TQ gain?

Andy@Livernois

11-06-2008, 09:19 AM

I am guesstimating about 410+RWHP, and about 390RWTQ with supporting mods like Headers and a CAI... Until we get a G8 in here it will be difficult to know 100% for certain, but we just did a TBSS with this package and it made 410/394. The G8 should do more since it doesnt have the crappy truck intake holding it back...

Art708

11-06-2008, 11:56 AM

Ok....so if we eliminate all the DOD junk can we then use a sensible amount of oil in the engine? I ask this assuming that the need for the extra 4 quarts of oil is to supply the DOD lifters,etc.

wreckwriter

11-06-2008, 11:59 AM

Ok....so if we eliminate all the DOD junk can we then use a sensible amount of oil in the engine? I ask this assuming that the need for the extra 4 quarts of oil is to supply the DOD lifters,etc.

I would say not. The oil capacity is a function of the pan and pickup even if the reason for that design was the lifters. If you reduce the oil you'll get codes and high oil temps.

jbradsh1

11-06-2008, 12:07 PM

Ok....so if we eliminate all the DOD junk can we then use a sensible amount of oil in the engine? I ask this assuming that the need for the extra 4 quarts of oil is to supply the DOD lifters,etc.

Art708; I've heard mentioned that the G8 has a higher output oil pump that is needed for the DOD system. But when you disconnect the DOD, oil is now being pumped through the engine at a faster rate because oil is not being pumped through the DOD system (as the oil passages are blocked off when you eliminate it), so you could pump the oil pan dry if you didn't have the excess oil available. That's the way I understand it but I'm sure the experts will correct this if I'm mistaken.

Crazy Paul

11-06-2008, 12:33 PM

Art708; I've heard mentioned that the G8 has a higher output oil pump that is needed for the DOD system. But when you disconnect the DOD, oil is now being pumped through the engine at a faster rate because oil is not being pumped through the DOD system (as the oil passages are blocked off when you eliminate it), so you could pump the oil pan dry if you didn't have the excess oil available. That's the way I understand it but I'm sure the experts will correct this if I'm mistaken.

Yes and it has been done.
L76 with original L76 high volume oil pump + earlier 5.5 litre oil pan (it had a front sump) + guy doing a very long burnout up a steep hill = kaboom.

p71

11-06-2008, 03:54 PM

why are you worried about a big oil pan? that makes the opposite of sense... oil is cheap and the more you have of it the slower it gunges up (and the further you can get before doig engine damage when a semi's secondary drive shaft punches a hole in your freaking oil pan)....

Andy@Livernois

11-07-2008, 01:36 PM

I agree with everyone in here, even if you could put a "normal" amount of oil, there are too many advantages to the high capacity system...

bigwillys58

01-12-2009, 02:58 PM

I agree with everyone in here, even if you could put a "normal" amount of oil, there are too many advantages to the high capacity system...
X2
btw andy, what would be the approx hp gain with the stage 2 L92 cam? obviously a converter, Lts and a CAI would be next to mandatory with it... also how would the street driveablity be and would there be any price difference?

Andy@Livernois

01-12-2009, 03:07 PM

well on LS3 cars the stage 2 cam makes approx 20 rwhp more then stage 1, so I sould guess 17rwhp more on the G8 :D it would need about a 3000-3200 converter with that cam, and headers really should be used with even the stage 1 setup... there wouldn't be any difference in cost (well the converter would be needed, so I guess the cost of that) bot no difference in the "package" cost for the cam and related items...

jbradsh1

01-12-2009, 03:18 PM

Andy@Livernois

01-12-2009, 06:13 PM

lol, no you can still use it if you want :D

Crazy Paul

01-12-2009, 06:50 PM

Crazy Paul

01-12-2009, 06:51 PM

So then I can send my catch can back to crazy paul?

Sure I'll have it.
You might have got it from James ?

Andy@Livernois

01-12-2009, 06:59 PM

No need to flycut pistons with Stage 2 ?

well at least on LS3's you don't have to :D

racerxdetroit

01-13-2009, 02:53 AM

How much installed?

r33pwrd

01-13-2009, 07:23 AM

How much installed?

see post #19.

jbradsh1

01-13-2009, 08:56 AM

Sure I'll have it.
You might have got it from James ?

Thanks, I was having a senior moment, would be my guess.

Ed Curtis

01-13-2009, 12:09 PM

Andy,

Have you guys built one of these combinations yet?

Ed

r33pwrd

01-13-2009, 01:14 PM

I have been thinking about this pretty hard and I guess Im a no as for basiccly 4K I would ratter spend 2K more and have a maggie.

G8GT594

01-13-2009, 06:34 PM

Andy,

Have you guys built one of these combinations yet?

Ed

If your talking about the same combo as in the first post on this thread yes they have. I believe my car was the first. No problems as of yet and i beat the crap out of it everytime i drive it :woohoo:

Andy@Livernois

01-13-2009, 06:53 PM

and back from the dead comes paul... where the hell have you been :D? you didn't land in jail did ya???

G8GT594

01-13-2009, 07:05 PM

and back from the dead comes paul... where the hell have you been :D? you didn't land in jail did ya???

Not yet, they need something faster :nah: I need new tires though LOL. To many burnouts and not enough rubber on those tires :devil:

It's A G8!

01-13-2009, 08:11 PM

^^^ Whats your 1/4 mile times?

G8GT594

01-13-2009, 08:52 PM

^^^ Whats your 1/4 mile times?

Couldn't tell you yet. In the spring time though, and hopefully by then ill have a set of drag radials.

Blackdevil77

01-13-2009, 08:54 PM

what was that other cam package i saw on your site for the G8 that was 5 grand?

GeorgeInNePa

01-13-2009, 09:07 PM

what was that other cam package i saw on your site for the G8 that was 5 grand?
That looks like the same thing Paul got, with the addition of the Kooks headers and catted x-pipe.

Andy@Livernois

01-14-2009, 06:27 AM

That looks like the same thing Paul got, with the addition of the Kooks headers and catted x-pipe.

correct, that "package" is for people who do not have headers yet, I put the 2899 one on here simply because so many of you already have headers and CAI...

Andy@Livernois

01-27-2009, 10:43 AM

Thought I would give this a bump, We should have another few G8's coming in for this package soon :D And hopefully a GXP for our stage 2 cam :D

G8GT594

01-27-2009, 04:38 PM

Thought I would give this a bump, We should have another few G8's coming in for this package soon :D And hopefully a GXP for our stage 2 cam :D

Hmmm a GXP for a stage 2??? Looks like ill be back for more mods... i need to stay ahead of the GXP crowd!

The Commodore

01-30-2009, 01:31 PM

Hmmm a GXP for a stage 2??? Looks like ill be back for more mods... i need to stay ahead of the GXP crowd!

TQ converter?

I think you might need it with all that power your pushing.

BTW I envy you lol. I just took a good look at my finacials and the Vararam and tune are going to be my only mods for at least 6 months:bm: