View Full Version : Which Stall should I get? SUGGESTIONS NE1
1sicg8
01-16-2010, 10:38 AM
Well with the tax season coming around I am going to have a couple of coins to spend, besides the headers, I'm looking at getting a 3600rpm stall my question is who has the best price for a very reliable converter.
MANOFSTEEL69
01-16-2010, 10:43 AM
3600 in my opinion is way to high for your mods. I would go with a 2800 if I were you. My 3200 Yank, for my car is perfect. I originally went with a 3600, but after seeing how it performed in a car with similar mods to mine I changed my mind. Circle D, Precision and Yank are your best bets.
1sicg8
01-16-2010, 10:48 AM
In the near future I will also in addition be camming the car it is the only reason why I want the 3600 stall, possibly performing some headwork, porting the intake as well.
GRRRR8
01-16-2010, 10:52 AM
If its a true daily driver I would keep it close to 3000. If its a weekend toy like mine, 3600 is the shit! Regardless, put a trans cooler when you have a stall.
vic2186
01-16-2010, 11:22 AM
I have a FTI 3600 stall..my first ever car with a stall and it drives great..I don't know what loose or tight is but if I'm guessing how much pedal to get it going a little more than stock..but let me tell you my car rips ..I also have a heads/cam full bolt on g8 also..it's all on the tuner also ..getting shifts points match with the rpm is critical so is DD with lock up unlocking this thing is a science..this is not a simple one day tune your out ordeal..you need to tune for every aspect of driving..part thorttle lock up ..blah blah..if you going big listen to king Charles if DD and you want a better 60 foot tight circle d 2800 258mm
is your key!!!!
vic2186
01-16-2010, 11:24 AM
I can tolerate my 3600 because my cam needed it badly I swear this has change my driving experience ..it is so much better with a converter.. All g8s need converters I swear by it
Devilish34
01-16-2010, 11:44 AM
I have a Circle D 2800-3000 it stalls around 3k with my cam. I'd call Chris at Circle D and talk to him yourself but IMO this is a good stall for a DD. A cooler is not required but I'd put one in if you DD just my opinion
Horn09
01-16-2010, 11:45 AM
I'm probably going to go with a 3K torque converter for my bolt on car that is (mostly) a DD.
Mike P
01-16-2010, 12:04 PM
Well with the tax season coming around I am going to have a couple of coins to spend, besides the headers, I'm looking at getting a 3600rpm stall my question is who has the best price for a very reliable converter.
I would go with a 2800 stall, but you might want to stay away from Yank. With the recent problems that Paul had with them.
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GeorgeInNePa
01-16-2010, 12:32 PM
In the near future I will also in addition be camming the car it is the only reason why I want the 3600 stall, possibly performing some headwork, porting the intake as well.
3600 is perfect, IMHO.
I'll be having my 3200 re-stalled to a 3600 in the near future.
I like my Yank, but there are people (one in particular) who hate them. He seems to have a good reason to.
Circle-D is a good brand it seems also.
vic2186
01-16-2010, 12:54 PM
3600 is perfect, IMHO.
I'll be having my 3200 re-stalled to a 3600 in the near future.
I like my Yank, but there are people (one in particular) who hate them. He seems to have a good reason to.
Circle-D is a good brand it seems also.
3600 stall rocks!!! It's in George I'm comin for ya!!!
GeorgeInNePa
01-16-2010, 02:41 PM
3600 stall rocks!!! It's in George I'm comin for ya!!!
You need to set your sights a bit higher.
I'm a bolt-on car, you've got heads/cam.
You should be faster. You're expected to be faster.
;)
vic2186
01-16-2010, 08:15 PM
You need to set your sights a bit higher.
I'm a bolt-on car, you've got heads/cam.
You should be faster. You're expected to be faster.
;)
hey i just did a 1/4 nile on the dashawk and 11.57 t at 119mph..on the mustand dyno i did 11.50 at 118.6mph
hummm do i smell rollcage!!!
Mike@NewEra
01-17-2010, 09:00 AM
Stall speed is best determined when you know the RPM powerband that your set up entails. The company that supplies you the cam you purchase will probably be the best bet to reccomend what rpm stall speed to go with.
vic2186
01-17-2010, 09:26 AM
if you want some improvement in the 1/4 with killing you DD get a tight 2800!!
Blackdevil77
01-17-2010, 10:28 AM
3600 stall rocks!!! It's in George I'm comin for ya!!!
You got it installed??? How is it? I want a right up lol
jakesg8
01-18-2010, 04:51 AM
3600 is perfect!!!! FTI makes a great convertor IMO
Rich@pm-fl.com
01-18-2010, 11:41 AM
If you want a quality converter, that performs at the top of the game, go with FTI. Drives tight on the street, but is a monster when you open it up.
http://www.pm-fl.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=584_600_625&products_id=777&osCsid=9fmc0c906mqbb8ttjc594bcsm7
Circle-D
01-18-2010, 03:02 PM
A lot of good advice in here, and it really depends on your goals. We offer 2 diameters for the G8. 258mm is the most popular and is great for DD looking for better performance but not loose street manors. The other option is the 245mm option. This will give you the best performance possible, but does get a little loose on the street. Nothing that will cause a problem, just looser than the 258mm. You mentioned a 3600 stall, that would be in our 245mm. We still have numerous choices for pump and stator combinations once we select diameter, so we really need to talk it over so we can build the perfect converter for you.
Chris
Devilish34
01-18-2010, 03:45 PM
A lot of good advice in here, and it really depends on your goals. We offer 2 diameters for the G8. 258mm is the most popular and is great for DD looking for better performance but not loose street manors. The other option is the 245mm option. This will give you the best performance possible, but does get a little loose on the street. Nothing that will cause a problem, just looser than the 258mm. You mentioned a 3600 stall, that would be in our 245mm. We still have numerous choices for pump and stator combinations once we select diameter, so we really need to talk it over so we can build the perfect converter for you.
Chris
Call this guy and he'll give you all the information you need. I have their 258mm and it stalls right where Chris told me it would.
G8GT721
01-18-2010, 04:27 PM
A lot of good advice in here, and it really depends on your goals. We offer 2 diameters for the G8. 258mm is the most popular and is great for DD looking for better performance but not loose street manors. The other option is the 245mm option. This will give you the best performance possible, but does get a little loose on the street. Nothing that will cause a problem, just looser than the 258mm. You mentioned a 3600 stall, that would be in our 245mm. We still have numerous choices for pump and stator combinations once we select diameter, so we really need to talk it over so we can build the perfect converter for you.
Chris
Whats the difference the Pro Stage I single disk & Pro Stage III multi disk?
Circle-D
01-19-2010, 07:42 AM
Single disk is what most NA card use. The multi is suggested on boosted applications. By getting the multi disk, you gain the ability to lock up at WOT at the track. But there is a tuning/computer issue on the 6L80 that causes an on/off situation at low speeds. There have been a few new Beta releases in HPT, but not sure if anybody has figured it out yet.
Chris
Not to hi-jack this thread.....but.....
Of all the converter threads I've read, it was never mentioned.
What is the factory converters stall RPM?
I'd just love to not let off the brake at a traffic light and it lurch forward w/o hitting the gas pedal like it does stock.
familycaronROIDS!
01-19-2010, 07:42 PM
Looks like you are into mods and I see you have LT's on your to do list. I would go with the SS3600 Yank converter. You will notice most of the drive ability difference on street driving not to much on the highway when driving normal.
WOT will put a smile on your face...
1sicg8
01-21-2010, 04:11 PM
If you want a quality converter, that performs at the top of the game, go with FTI. Drives tight on the street, but is a monster when you open it up.
http://www.pm-fl.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=584_600_625&products_id=777&osCsid=9fmc0c906mqbb8ttjc594bcsm7
Out of the price range!
GeorgeInNePa
01-21-2010, 05:34 PM
Out of the price range!
What's your limit?
That's only a little more expensive than the Yank I have.
There are no $399 converters for the G8...
Yanks are 775, Circle-Ds are 765, Precisions are $734 from NEP.
MGMG8GT
01-21-2010, 06:08 PM
I have a Circle D 258mm 2800-3000 stall coming. Chris was really helpful.
youngrushhour
01-21-2010, 09:43 PM
What's your limit?
That's only a little more expensive than the Yank I have.
There are no $399 converters for the G8...
Yanks are 775, Circle-Ds are 765, Precisions are $734 from NEP.
And they would likely be pieces of shit if they existed.
For half a second off your time, the stall converter is easily the best mod for the money for an automatic. No ifs ands or buts.
Though if you can't spend the money for a stall, you probably shouldn't buy one in case you damage your car playing around with it due to the fun factor ;)
God did I love my stalled Goat. Cannot wait to stall this bad boy.
1sicg8
01-22-2010, 11:50 AM
What makes the $8**.00 converter any more special than the one from Circle-D I'd rather pay less money and have just as good of a converter for less money.:uhm:
youngrushhour
01-22-2010, 11:14 PM
What makes the $8**.00 converter any more special than the one from Circle-D I'd rather pay less money and have just as good of a converter for less money.:uhm:
Circle D makes great shit. I had one on my GTO and it was a great stall.
Really, any of the stalls mentioned in the thread are going to be good. FTI, Circle D, Yank, Vig, Precision, and a number of others make quality products. But I'd always be wary of a stall less than $600 or 700.
Circle-D
01-23-2010, 07:14 AM
Circle D makes great shit. I had one on my GTO and it was a great stall.
Really, any of the stalls mentioned in the thread are going to be good. FTI, Circle D, Yank, Vig, Precision, and a number of others make quality products. But I'd always be wary of a stall less than $600 or 700.
Thanks, glad you like my shit...:cool2:
Chris
youngrushhour
01-23-2010, 11:13 AM
Thanks, glad you like my shit...:cool2:
Chris
Haha, no problem, Chris ;)
I wish I could've gotten that stall off the goat before the insurance company claimed what was left of it. :(
It's A G8!
01-24-2010, 08:45 PM
Not to high jack this tread but my wife drives the car more than I do and wouldnt want her to have a hard time with the converter. Should I get a tight 2800 converter?
Blackrider
01-24-2010, 09:09 PM
Loose? Tight? I'm still not 100% sure what this means. Anyone?
GeorgeInNePa
01-24-2010, 09:37 PM
Not to high jack this tread but my wife drives the car more than I do and wouldnt want her to have a hard time with the converter. Should I get a tight 2800 converter?
My wife has driven my car with the 3200 in it. She had no problem. I told her to go easy on it, because it will just spin the tires if you stomp it.
I told my father about it too. He had it for a few days last year. He drives a low 10 second NHRA Stock Eliminator car and gave me the , "Don't tell me shit" look and did a little laugh.
I heard from one of his buddies that he had the car sideways leaving his store one day because he's not used to a street car that does 12s. It got away from him a bit.
LOL
GeorgeInNePa
01-24-2010, 09:40 PM
Loose? Tight? I'm still not 100% sure what this means. Anyone?
A loose converter, with sticky tires, will get the car into the power quicker. But it will drive worse on the street. You need more RPM than you did before to get moving. Also, since you are into the meat of the torque curve, it is more apt to spin the tires.
A tight converter will drive more like stock.
The 3200 Yank I have has good street manners, but is loose enough to get the revs up quick. I plan on having it re-stalled to 3600.
Blackrider
01-24-2010, 09:57 PM
A loose converter, with sticky tires, will get the car into the power quicker. But it will drive worse on the street. You need more RPM than you did before to get moving. Also, since you are into the meat of the torque curve, it is more apt to spin the tires.
A tight converter will drive more like stock.
The 3200 Yank I have has good street manners, but is loose enough to get the revs up quick. I plan on having it re-stalled to 3600.
Thanks!
desertg8
09-26-2010, 07:36 AM
We are putting in my 3600 fti stall in two weeks with a transmission cooler. All I have is the superchips tune right now. I have my shift points set to stock. 6000 rpm with the raised rev limiter of 6300. Theoretically it should not bounce off the limiter with this setup. Also I will be setting the superchips tuner to zero torque management. I heard that on the gear shifts the stall convertors do not hit as hard since they are slipping some. I sure hope it drives ok on the street.
My best times have come with stock shift points. No cam or fi. Best time has been 12.88 @ 108.47 at firebird raceway with a da of 3500 feet.
This is with the hoosier drag radials. I am wondering what et improvement I should expect.
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