3.70s it is!

[GRRRR8]

Well after making multiple test passes I have decided I needed more gear. 6800rpm shifts were too much for 3rd gear and would be trapping in the 5000 rpm range in 4th.

After deliberating with the resident wizard (George) last night, we agreed that I would end up somewhere between 6200-6600 rpms with a 28 inch tall slick.

This should be a wild ride on the launch now!


As always thanks to Greg @ Pace Performance for answering questions and putting in the special order for me.

Is it here yet...Is it here yet...Is it here yet. LOL!

[Devilish34]

Bets on how much dust will collect on it before it's installed!!!!

.25"

[99-LS1-SS]

Admit it! You want to be just like me! :nah:

[GRRRR8]

It will be in the weekend of the week I get it.

It will only take me about 2 hours with putting the Pedders diff bushings in it. This time I am putting steel pins in the diff bushings to control squish.

[99-LS1-SS]

It will be in the weekend of the week I get it.

It will only take me about 2 hours with putting the Pedders diff bushings in it. This time I am putting steel pins in the diff bushings to control squish.

I'll be very interested in your opinion of the effect of this. I have strongly considered it. I think it would help my wheel hopping.

[GRRRR8]

"I wanna be I wanna be like Brandon" Run 13s and have a unique accent. :nah: LMAO!


This wheel hop thing has me a bit lost. ONE time my car wheel hopped on a wet road when it was stop. It has never done it with the BMR or Pedders, BUT in all fairness, you do have a M6 and might be launching it at a higher rpm. I have been trying out 2700 with the ETs and let off the brake, let it move and mat it. It will flash close to 4k and is gone. If I try to get any friskier then that, it is all over the road.

[99-LS1-SS]

"I wanna be I wanna be like Brandon" Run 13s and have a unique accent. :nah: LMAO!



I haven't run 13s....yet

[GRRRR8]

But you do have a unique accent. The funny thing is, Aden and you almost sound identical on the phone.

[99-LS1-SS]

Yeah, but he's a foot taller and 100 lbs heavier!

[edmanet]

"I wanna be I wanna be like Brandon" Run 13s and have a unique accent. :nah: LMAO!


This wheel hop thing has me a bit lost. ONE time my car wheel hopped on a wet road when it was stop. It has never done it with the BMR or Pedders, BUT in all fairness, you do have a M6 and might be launching it at a higher rpm. I have been trying out 2700 with the ETs and let off the brake, let it move and mat it. It will flash close to 4k and is gone. If I try to get any friskier then that, it is all over the road.


Hell I thought you wanted to be like me and run 11s and have a crater on the
top of your head !!! LMFAO!!!!


Hey we need a smilie with a little crater on the top so he'll look like me.

[GRRRR8]

Yeah, but he's a foot taller and 100 lbs heavier!

Yeah, I have got in the habit of calling him sir. :)

[99-LS1-SS]

I missed the crater incident. Care to explain?

[GRRRR8]

Hell I thought you wanted to be like me and run 11s and have a crater on the
top of your head !!! LMFAO!!!!


Hey we need a smilie with a little crater on the top so he'll look like me.


I think its GRRRR8 how you have kept your spirits up through all this.

I am just getting ready for you is all. :boxing:

[GRRRR8]

I missed the crater incident. Care to explain?

Where have you been B? Well you have had a bit going on but I am sure Roy will explain.

[Devilish34]

I missed the crater incident. Care to explain?

Ask him to send you a pic. I saw two of the scars IRL but opted for the pic of the crater over the real deal. My wife said the scar on his abdomen was bigger than her C-sec scar

[G8GT721]

Bets on how much dust will collect on it before it's installed!!!!

.25"

lol everyone ignored tis comment

"I wanna be I wanna be like Brandon" Run 13s and have a unique accent. :nah: LMAO!


gonna give it a Reevvv

[Devilish34]

Yeah, I have got in the habit of calling him sir. :)

He is an old fart

[99-LS1-SS]

gonna give it a Reevvv

I think there was a jab in there somewhere. :boxing: :nah:

[edmanet]

I missed the crater incident. Care to explain?

I went for a physical and I had the doc look at a small brown dot on my
head....two weeks later I got a 3 inch circular crater on my head, a 4 inch cut on my neck, and a 12 inch cut on my stomach.

They cut the cancer off head and took skin from my stomach to replace the
skin they cut off my head. Then sliced my neck and took out 4 lymph nodes and tested them for cancer. Good news is the nodes were negative.......bad news is a have a crater on my head. If you want pics I got them and its not pretty.

But the real bad news is that I can't wear a helmet for about 4-6 more weeks so that means....NO TRACK FOR ME. :mad: :mad:

[Blackrider]

I went for a physical and I had the doc look at a small brown dot on my
head....two weeks later I got a 3 inch circular crater on my head, a 4 inch cut on my neck, and a 12 inch cut on my stomach.

They cut the cancer off head and took skin from my stomach to replace the
skin they cut off my head. Then sliced my neck and took out 4 lymph nodes and tested them for cancer. Good news is the nodes were negative.......bad news is a have a crater on my head. If you want pics I got them and its not pretty.

But the real bad news is that I can't wear a helmet for about 4-6 more weeks so that means....NO TRACK FOR ME. :mad: :mad:

Wow, glad to hear they got it in time.

[Devilish34]

I went for a physical and I had the doc look at a small brown dot on my
head....two weeks later I got a 3 inch circular crater on my head, a 4 inch cut on my neck, and a 12 inch cut on my stomach.

They cut the cancer off head and took skin from my stomach to replace the
skin they cut off my head. Then sliced my neck and took out 4 lymph nodes and tested them for cancer. Good news is the nodes were negative.......bad news is a have a crater on my head. If you want pics I got them and its not pretty.

But the real bad news is that I can't wear a helmet for about 4-6 more weeks so that means....NO TRACK FOR ME. :mad: :mad:

Don't worry we can find drivers :)

[99-LS1-SS]

I want to see pictures!

[Devilish34]

I want to see pictures!

Get yourself a nice bowl of corn flakes w/strawberries before you look at it

[edmanet]

I want to see pictures!

Quality isn't that great because they were taken with a cell phone.

Slice-n-dice on neck
http://mystudios.com/g8/neck.jpg

Cut from below the belly button to my side
http://mystudios.com/g8/stomach.jpg

Crater head [that's lotion for the skin graft]
http://mystudios.com/g8/head.jpg


Links
http://mystudios.com/g8/neck.jpg
http://mystudios.com/g8/stomach.jpg
http://mystudios.com/g8/head.jpg

[99-LS1-SS]

Dang! The head looks like a bad repair on a Kurt Cobain stunt. The gut looks like it might hurt a little! You ok?

The head is easily the worst looking one. Does it hurt the most or the gut?

[GeorgeInNePa]

It will be in the weekend of the week I get it.

It will only take me about 2 hours with putting the Pedders diff bushings in it. This time I am putting steel pins in the diff bushings to control squish.

Copy-cat!

:nah:

[Devilish34]

Dang! The head looks like a bad repair on a Kurt Cobain stunt. The gut looks like it might hurt a little! You ok?

The head is easily the worst looking one. Does it hurt the most or the gut?

I can say this he looked queasy and uncomfortable on Sunday.

[99-LS1-SS]

Copy-cat!

:nah:

Did you notice a difference or are you going to do that at some point?

[G8GT721]

Wow, glad to hear they got it in time.

+1

[GeorgeInNePa]

Did you notice a difference or are you going to do that at some point?

I put the rods in when I installed the bushings last winter.

It's a huge difference over stock.

[99-LS1-SS]

Where did you get the rods?

[Cobra]

Those scars look like you went to a special effects company :"

[GeorgeInNePa]

Where did you get the rods?

Home Depot or Lowes, don't remember which. They both have a "metal rack" with rods, threaded rods, flat plate, etc.

[G8-4-Speed]

I have 3.45's and it's more than enough gear. I don't think you will like or pickup with 3.70's. 3.27/3.45 are a pivot point for gears. I only picked up a .10 or so with gears. The trans gears are so steep that I think you might loose a little trying to spin/accellerate all that rotating weight any faster. If anything, I would like to see a side by side comparison between 3.27's and 3.45's. This video is a jump from 12 mph, and watch how fast it gets to 3rd.
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[GRRRR8]

Well considering I ran 12.70 with a RotoFab, MagnaFlow cat back and a ecm/tcm tune on the factory 19s and now it shifts at 6800 and will have a 28inch tall tire, do the math.

In order to be trapping in the mid 6000 rpm range in 4th gear I need a 3.70.

I am not try for low 12s, I will be hitting mid to low 11s on motor and 10s on spray. :)

[SpeedRacerX]

I have 3.45's and it's more than enough gear. I don't think you will like or pickup with 3.70's. 3.27/3.45 are a pivot point for gears. I only picked up a .10 or so with gears. The trans gears are so steep that I think you might loose a little trying to spin/accellerate all that rotating weight any faster. If anything, I would like to see a side by side comparison between 3.27's and 3.45's. This video is a jump from 12 mph, and watch how fast it gets to 3rd.
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Approx 3.5 seconds from your jump at 12 mph to the shift into 3rd...WOW.
BUT...you have a CAM, Gears, AND the Stock 18" RSA's right? Those RSA's can't be helping matters much.....

[edmanet]

Home Depot or Lowes, don't remember which. They both have a "metal rack" with rods, threaded rods, flat plate, etc.

Can these be put in with the bushing already installed ??? I'd hate to have another thing to take a part right now.

I'm still waiting on those modified trailing arms. I have John's[CCW] cell number. I'll give him a call on SAT.

[edmanet]

Well considering I ran 12.70 with a RotoFab, MagnaFlow cat back and a ecm/tcm tune on the factory 19s and now it shifts at 6800 and will have a 28inch tall tire, do the math.

In order to be trapping in the mid 6000 rpm range in 4th gear I need a 3.70.

I am not try for low 12s, I will be hitting mid to low 11s on motor and 10s on spray. :)

So you're going with a 28 inch tire on a 17 inch rim ?? When I talked to CCW they weren't sure that would fit and didn't want to build me a set w/o having the car there. That's one of the reasons we went with a 26 inch tire on a 16 inch rim.

[GRRRR8]

I will have to roll the lip on the inner fender and trim the plastic like Intense did on theirs.

I will have a slip with the 2.92 and 26in ET Streets with the tune touched up a bit by me. Then I will put the gears, tires, nitrous ets and be ready for January.

[edmanet]

I will have to roll the lip on the inner fender and trim the plastic like Intense did on theirs.

I will have a slip with the 2.92 and 26in ET Streets with the tune touched up a bit by me. Then I will put the gears, tires, nitrous ets and be ready for January.

Sounds like a plan. I can always go to a 28 inch if the 26 inch doesn't hook. Then I'll have an xtra 2 inches of sidewall.

[GeorgeInNePa]

Can these be put in with the bushing already installed ??? I'd hate to have another thing to take a part right now.

I'm still waiting on those modified trailing arms. I have John's[CCW] cell number. I'll give him a call on SAT.

Yes, but you will need to drop the diff out of the mounts to insert the rods in the bushings.

[GeorgeInNePa]

I have 3.45's and it's more than enough gear. I don't think you will like or pickup with 3.70's. 3.27/3.45 are a pivot point for gears. I only picked up a .10 or so with gears. The trans gears are so steep that I think you might loose a little trying to spin/accellerate all that rotating weight any faster. If anything, I would like to see a side by side comparison between 3.27's and 3.45's. This video is a jump from 12 mph, and watch how fast it gets to 3rd.
...snip

On normal street tires, you're correct, he'll spin them. Hard.

On proper tires, the math works with the 3.70s. Also, he's going to be making a bit more HP than yours does. We're figuring on 114-116 in the 1/4. Remember, he's not limited by the DoD lifters and his shift points and red line will be much higher.

The launch will be extremely important.

On the street, he can always start in 2nd.

[Devilish34]

Well considering I ran 12.70 with a RotoFab, MagnaFlow cat back and a ecm/tcm tune on the factory 19s and now it shifts at 6800 and will have a 28inch tall tire, do the math.

In order to be trapping in the mid 6000 rpm range in 4th gear I need a 3.70.

I am not try for low 12s, I will be hitting mid to low 11s on motor and 10s on spray. :)


slip?? Mr Freak

[GRRRR8]

On normal street tires, you're correct, he'll spin them. Hard.

On proper tires, the math works with the 3.70s. Also, he's going to be making a bit more HP than yours does. We're figuring on 114-116 in the 1/4. Remember, he's not limited by the DoD lifters and his shift points and red line will be much higher.

The launch will be extremely important.

On the street, he can always start in 2nd.


You are correct O great one.

Since you know me, I will be running the 28s on the street too. Hate to be unprepared or tell someone I blew their doors off taking off in 2nd. :)

[SpeedRacerX]

You are correct O great one.

Since you know me, I will be running the 28s on the street too. Hate to be unprepared or tell someone I blew their doors off taking off in 2nd. :)

Yeah, so make it worse for them by starting in 1st :nah:

[GRRRR8]

slip?? Mr Freak

I am going to send you a 8 1/2 x 11 copy. :)

[Devilish34]

I am going to send you a faded 8 1/2 x 11 copy. :)

ok :)

[todds87ss]

slip?? Mr Freak

That's just wrong...on so many levels.

[GRRRR8]

That's just wrong...on so many levels.

Not really. I am use to it and would expect nothing less as I would be the same way. Since 3 other have done it as well, its real. I guess it sucks to always be the 1st to do something, but I am use to that as well.

I hope their sense of humor is as good as it is now in the near future. :)

[99-LS1-SS]

Home Depot or Lowes, don't remember which. They both have a "metal rack" with rods, threaded rods, flat plate, etc.

What diameter rod?

[GRRRR8]

What diameter rod?

I was going to use a drill bit to size the hole and purchase the rod size off of the that.

[Tempest2000]

my question is does it really need it and won't that make the ride a little stiffer?

I was thinking some cushion is a good thing...

[GRRRR8]

my question is does it really need it and won't that make the ride a little stiffer?

I was thinking some cushion is a good thing...

Cushion is good. For limited street use and maximum 1/4 mile performance you want no deflection.

[Tempest2000]

gotcha what I figured...

mine is a DD and almost 20k a year its stiff enough with the 35mm 19's for me as is... and pedders xa street kit thats going on soon isn't going to help.

not to jack this thread but where is the best place to get bmr trailing arms and subframe connectors charlie?

[GRRRR8]

Here is an example of a car with NO bushings launching. It has all spherical bushings/ends instead.

This is a 5000 rpm launch with 310 rwhp.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/charlesvanwormer/Mustang1-1.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/charlesvanwormer/Mustang2-1.jpg

[GRRRR8]

gotcha what I figured...

mine is a DD and almost 20k a year its stiff enough with the 35mm 19's for me as is... and pedders xa street kit thats going on soon isn't going to help.

not to jack this thread but where is the best place to get bmr trailing arms and subframe connectors charlie?

I know New Era had a good deal a few months ago on BMR.

[GeorgeInNePa]

What diameter rod?


I was going to use a drill bit to size the hole and purchase the rod size off of the that.

DMS posted the sizes. I can't remember it (I want to say 1/4 and 5/16), I'll go looking...

ETA:
http://forums.peddersusa.com/showthread.php?p=3918#post3918

http://forums.peddersusa.com/imagehosting/749c2c2435ed9b.jpghttp://forums.peddersusa.com/imagehosting/749c2c25a6f45f.jpg

I did not glue mine in, I wanted the option of removing them if I wanted to. The rods cost less than $10. I cut them with a reciprocating saw and beveled the edges with a bench belt sander.

Also, keep in mind, Pedders now offers solid bushings for the diff, they are $139ish, IIRC.

[G8-4-Speed]

The generic rule is .11 ratio change for every inch so a 3.70w/28's would act like a 3.50w/26.2...Should actually be ok with 28's.

How much you plan to spray? As much as it takes?

[GRRRR8]

The generic rule is .11 ratio change for every inch so a 3.70w/28's would act like a 3.50w/26.2...Should actually be ok with 28's.

How much you plan to spray? As much as it takes?

100 shot.......to start. :)

[99-LS1-SS]

Here is an example of a car with NO bushings launching. It has all spherical bushings/ends instead.

This is a 5000 rpm launch with 310 rwhp.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/charlesvanwormer/Mustang1-1.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm132/charlesvanwormer/Mustang2-1.jpg

Riding down the road normally it probably sounded like a dump truck full of beer cans with tor spherical bushings!

[GRRRR8]

Really not that bad. That use to be my car and I did all the suspension in it when I had it. Best bang for the buck. With the new lowered lower arms it should 60ft 1.40s. :)

[99-LS1-SS]

It looks like it could benefit from a larger rear sway bar and/or some sub-frame connectors. Can you say, torque?

[GRRRR8]

It looks like it could benefit from a larger rear sway bar and/or some sub-frame connectors. Can you say, torque?

It has weld in frame connectors..now, not in the pic and we have a 6 point cage for it as well.

It has air bags and a rear anti-roll bar as well.

[99-LS1-SS]

It has weld in frame connectors..now, not in the pic and we have a 6 point cage for it as well.

It has air bags and a rear anti-roll bar as well.

Then it should launch as straight as a string now!

[R.Penguin]

But you do have a unique accent. The funny thing is, Aden and you almost sound identical on the phone.
Um, most people call that a "hillbilly accent", not a "unique accent"! :p

Woe! I hear banjo music! :eek:

[GeorgeInNePa]

It looks like it could benefit from a larger rear sway bar and/or some sub-frame connectors. Can you say, torque?

As long as it hooks and goes straight, who cares what the front end does? Lower hp cars don't always benefit from too a stiff chassis.

[99-LS1-SS]

Um, most people call that a "hillbilly accent", not a "unique accent"! :p

Woe! I hear banjo music! :eek:

You sure do got a purdy mouth! C'mon, squeel boy, squeel like a pig.....weeeeeee......weeeeeeee.

[GRRRR8]

As long as it hooks and goes straight, who cares what the front end does? Lower hp cars don't always benefit from too a stiff chassis.

True. It had the factory bolt in sub frame connectors in those pics with 285 rwhp. Thanks to Richard @ Strictly Performance he got 310 rwhp on motor and 410 with a 100 shot.

While it was there Glen had him weld in some frame connectors. I think it will see hi 11s on motor.

I told him when I am all done I will run him N/A vs. his spray. Thats a fair race as he weighs in at 3240 with 1/4 tank and him in the car.

[Voice of Reason]

Can you post what your parts total is from Pace? And did he have 3.27 and 3.45 gears available but you just decided to go with the 3.70s?

Edit: Never mind. It looks like you're getting the entire 3.70 differential. I just reread a post of mine from earlier this month and it looks like Greg can't get the 3.27 yet, and even still the price he mentioned of $1700 is too high for my budget.

[Mlozano]

A little out of subject but i was looking at the Mustang website where you can build your own and they have 3.7* gears available stock. Thats nuts.

[Devilish34]

A little out of subject but i was looking at the Mustang website where you can build your own and they have 3.7* gears available stock. Thats nuts.

3.73 It's part of the track pack (or something like that) I raced/saw a stock 2010 GT run high 12's on street tires at Cecil. Now granted Adam knows how to drive.

[Greg@PacePerformance]

It is here!
Less than a month to arrive isn't that bad.

[GRRRR8]

:woohoo: :theman: Greg

[Devilish34]

Just ship it to me since the driveway queen will never make it to the dance
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[Greg@PacePerformance]

LOL that is why I posted it was here so people would ride his ass to get it installed.

[Devilish34]

LOL that is why I posted it was here so people would ride his ass to get it installed.

Ship it here and I'll swap the sticker off of the new 2.92 and I'll ship that to Texas. :devil:
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[SpeedRacerX]

Ship it here and I'll swap the sticker off of the new 2.92 and I'll ship that to Texas. :devil:
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That's cruel - dare I say "Devilish."

[GRRRR8]

Just ship it to me since the driveway queen will never make it to the dance
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:bird::bird::bird::bird::bird:

[GeorgeInNePa]

It is here!
Less than a month to arrive isn't that bad.

What's the price for one of those?

[GRRRR8]

What's the price for one of those?

Last one in the world.

They dont ship to PA.

Quit coping me......even though it was your idea. :nah:

[GeorgeInNePa]

Last one in the world.

They dont ship to PA.

Quit coping me......even though it was your idea. :nah:

LOL

There's a guy "over there" that just ran 12.22, same mph, (bolt-ons, converter) I need more...

[Devilish34]

Get your heads and cam done first.
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[GeorgeInNePa]

Get your heads and cam done first.
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I don't think my head will ever get done... sigh

If I do those first, I won't be "bolt-ons only"

;)

[Blackdevil77]

I don't think my head will ever get done... sigh

If I do those first, I won't be "bolt-ons only"

;)

You have the "George" mod. You ran a 12.420. Other's with the mod's you have couldn't get anywhere near that (at least that I know of). The gears should do a nice amount, get some REALLY light weight rims.

[Devilish34]

I don't think my head will ever get done... sigh

If I do those first, I won't be "bolt-ons only"

;)

Is a converter considered a bolt or??
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[Greg@PacePerformance]

What's the price for one of those?

I'll sell you Charlies for $2K lol
1655 plus shipping sounds pretty close.

[GeorgeInNePa]

You have the "George" mod. You ran a 12.420. Other's with the mod's you have couldn't get anywhere near that (at least that I know of). The gears should do a nice amount, get some REALLY light weight rims.

That's what I'm saying, the other guy, "My G8 is On Drugs" ran a 12.22. Same mods.

I need to try again, maybe Atco this week.

;)

[GeorgeInNePa]

Is a converter considered a bolt or??
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It is to me and the guy who is faster than me.

;)

[Devilish34]

That's what I'm saying, the other guy, "My G8 is On Drugs" ran a 12.22. Same mods.

I need to try again, maybe Atco this week.

;)

His stall is bigger and I think he's 100lbs lighter too :p
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[GeorgeInNePa]

His stall is bigger and I think he's 100lbs lighter too :p
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I'm going to need a lightweight to drive my car.

lol

[Devilish34]

I'm going to need a lightweight to drive my car.

lol

I'm lighter but no light weight and Roy hasn't been cleared to wear a helmet yet. Start teaching your sister lol
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[GeorgeInNePa]

Honestly, I think I have the launch figured out and can match his 60'. That should get me into the .30s.

I did a 1.75, spinning them hard enough to kick the ass end to the right. Next time, 1.6x here I come!

[Tempest2000]

I really want 3.45's, but found a deal on a set of 3.27's local no shipping...

the 3.45's are going to run 1797 shipped

3.45's for 1797 more and have it in a week or 3.27's for $1340 w/tax and wait a month.

457 difference... decisions decisions...

[GRRRR8]

George, did you try to launch like I texted you?

[MGM GT]

You have the "George" mod. You ran a 12.420. Other's with the mod's you have couldn't get anywhere near that (at least that I know of). The gears should do a nice amount, get some REALLY light weight rims.

I ran 12.5@111 with only full intake, full exhaust and tune on stock RE050 tires.

Running mid 12's isn't an impossible feat, just takes seat time. I went to two tracks twice a week to get it done.

[dandragonrage]

Why's everyone swapping diffs and not just gears?

[GeorgeInNePa]

George, did you try to launch like I texted you?

That was my "no time" run. Got no data at all.

It didn't spin at all and it left like I've never felt before.

Monster burn-out (there was smoke coming out of the hood vents, at least 10 seconds. I shifted to 4th ;))14psi and 1300rpm.

:thumbsup:

[GeorgeInNePa]

I ran 12.5@111 with only full intake, full exhaust and tune on stock RE050 tires.

Running mid 12's isn't an impossible feat, just takes seat time. I went to two tracks twice a week to get it done.

Don't forget your 50shot.

;)

[MGM GT]

Don't forget your 50shot.

;)

Didn't forget... I've run 12.5's all motor in the cooler weather. I was running consistent 12.6's when it was warmer.

With the shot I'm down to 12.0@115 now.

[GeorgeInNePa]

You told me you were using a 50 shot, just playing around with the system.

[SpeedRacerX]

Hope I'm not thread jacking but IF you could get gears like the one guy did with the 3.90's or "what-if" there was a 4.10 available......would you do it? Would you go with that low of a gear?

[MGM GT]

You told me you were using a 50 shot, just playing around with the system.

Indeed I was back then and it was 90 degrees out. Things are different when its 50 out.

[GeorgeInNePa]

Hope I'm not thread jacking but IF you could get gears like the one guy did with the 3.90's or "what-if" there was a 4.10 available......would you do it? Would you go with that low of a gear?

I'd like to try 3.70s. I'd like to have some data from someone running 3.90s.

[MGM GT]

You need some tire to run that much gear... keep in mind our 1st gear ratio.

[SpeedRacerX]

I'd like to try 3.70s. I'd like to have some data from someone running 3.90s.

Everyone I've talked to who is running the 3.45s, 3.70s, or the one-off 3.90 is very happy with the gears - like it woke up the car and improved its driveability.
I think one of the latest HotRod issues with a bolt-on & NOS Camaro mentions how badly the Camaro needs a lower gear too...

[GeorgeInNePa]

You need some tire to run that much gear... keep in mind our 1st gear ratio.

I PM'd a bit with someone with 3.70s. He's trapping at 6100 in 4th.

Taller tires may not be required...

[MGM GT]

I PM'd a bit with someone with 3.70s. He's trapping at 6100 in 4th.

Taller tires may not be required...

How were his 60'?

I was thinking wider tire, haha. With our 4.03 first gear, your stacking up the odds of traction when you go up to 3.7, 3.9, etc.. final drive.

Even the GXP only has a 3.01 first when combines with the 3.27 final drive and traction is silly in 1st and we both have more power then a GXP.

[SpeedRacerX]

How were his 60'?

I was thinking wider tire, haha. With our 4.03 first gear, your stacking up the odds of traction when you go up to 3.7, 3.9, etc.. final drive.

Even the GXP only has a 3.01 first when combines with the 3.27 final drive and traction is silly in 1st and we both have more power then a GXP.

I was thinking/hoping you meant wider for traction :)

[GeorgeInNePa]

How were his 60'?

I was thinking wider tire, haha. With our 4.03 first gear, your stacking up the odds of traction when you go up to 3.7, 3.9, etc.. final drive.

Even the GXP only has a 3.01 first when combines with the 3.27 final drive and traction is silly in 1st and we both have more power then a GXP.

The 6L80 in the GXP is exactly the same as ours. 3.27 in the rear and the same 4.02 first.

The 3.70 is in the 6M. Many say the manual trans needs more gear...

[MGM GT]

The 6L80 in the GXP is exactly the same as ours. 3.27 in the rear and the same 4.02 first.

The 3.70 is in the 6M. Many say the manual trans needs more gear...

Correct and traction is non existent in both. I would rather have more power and longer gears.

[Voice of Reason]

The 3.70 is in the 6M. Many say the manual trans needs more gear...

I thought all GXPs got the the 3.27s regardless of transmission? And it were some of the Holden models that got the 3.45s or 3.70s?

[SpeedRacerX]

I thought all GXPs got the the 3.27s regardless of transmission? And it were some of the Holden models that got the 3.45s or 3.70s?

Automatic GXPs: 3.27
Manual GXPs: 3.70
Holden Commodore SS Manual uses the 3.45