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    Default Great way to increase caster, improve handling and steering

    Pedders realized right off the bat that the ZETA platform needed more caster, and in fact can tolerate a lot of caster. So we came up with a very easy way to improve it:

    5421 Zeta Extreme Control Arm - Caster Lock Washer $77.95

    These are special made washer/inserts for the front radius rod bushings. To install is pretty easy. to start, with the vehicle in the air, remove the big bolt that secures the radius rod bushing to the body, then remove the plastic clip that secures the long strip of metal on the inside, then remove the metal piece on the outside,
    then install the slotted washer so the hole is facing forward, reinstall the bolt, locktite it, add the new nut, torque to specs.

    Note: this is just a quickie scenario. There may be other steps involved. So refer to an appropriate manual.

    These washers will give you approx .75 to 1.0 additional positive caster. This a a very good thing for handling and steering feel.

    Now if you are more ambitious, you can make a huge improvement and replace the front radius rod bushing, that comes with the caster washer as well.

    EP6560 GM Zeta Front Radius Rod Bush. INCLUDES 5421 caster lock washers $161.59. This is a great deal for both. n fact, I think it is a mistake on the pricing so take advantage of it until Pedders Au. finds it!

    Both of these parts are being used on the GM racing Camaros, among others.

    If you have any questions, just ask

    mike
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    This will be the 2nd part or maybe part of Pedders rear kit at the same time.
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    Mike,
    Frank gave me the caster washers yesterday at his Pedders Day/GTG. Your instructions were perfect. I put them on this morning. It took me a couple of hours but part of that was getting the car up on jack stands. I did the passenger side first. Piece of cake. After removing the wheel, I pulled the push-pins that hold the fender liner in place to give me move room to work. It only took a short while to finish that side.

    The drivers side was harder because I couldn't push the Radius Rod forward enough and hold the washer and start the bolt. Finally I had my wife start the car and turn and hold the steering wheel full right. That pushed the RR right into place and the washers and bolt almost installed themselves. Tomorrow I'll get it aligned and everything should be good to go.
    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by G8V8 View Post
    Mike,
    Frank gave me the caster washers yesterday at his Pedders Day/GTG. Your instructions were perfect. I put them on this morning. It took me a couple of hours but part of that was getting the car up on jack stands. I did the passenger side first. Piece of cake. After removing the wheel, I pulled the push-pins that hold the fender liner in place to give me move room to work. It only took a short while to finish that side.

    The drivers side was harder because I couldn't push the Radius Rod forward enough and hold the washer and start the bolt. Finally I had my wife start the car and turn and hold the steering wheel full right. That pushed the RR right into place and the washers and bolt almost installed themselves. Tomorrow I'll get it aligned and everything should be good to go.
    Thanks,
    Ed
    Great job!. One of the first things I noticed with them is the better steering feel. The G8 is already seriously b etter than GTO. But adding the caster, really make it feel better. So after you give it aligned, take it out for a safe, spirited play test, and report back. Can't wait!!

    mike
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    Will do.
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    I like EC + Caster as is always good!

    BUT I would like to know where the red line is on the G8??

    Any idea??

    Cheers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EC-Ryder View Post
    I like EC + Caster as is always good!

    BUT I would like to know where the red line is on the G8??

    Any idea??

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    Quote Originally Posted by EC-Ryder View Post
    I like EC + Caster as is always good!

    BUT I would like to know where the red line is on the G8??

    Any idea??

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    LOL!

    Sorry, about that incomplete or badly framed sentence.

    I meant to say where is the redline on the Caster, or how much positive caster can we give it before we start to see the unpleasant side of it.

    Cheers!
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