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    Jessica
    Didn’t know about a delay I ran into Sunday, the G8 has no compressor clutch, we use the clutch relay to trigger the relay on our system. I will have to find another source for AC on/off.

    The newest C6 I have done an install on was 2011 and 2013 for Camaro; they both had a compressor clutch and relay. The 09 G8 had a plastic compressor pulley with no clutch or relay. G8 compressor has wires coming out of housing that are computer controlled. I need a 12V signal that turns on/off with AC. You can look and see if the pulley is plastic and no clutch, if other models have a clutch we can use existing wiring on them.

    The first G8 kit is going to AU probably without the wiring, I will send wiring once I have a solution. I just found out Sunday about the no clutch setup so it will take a couple weeks to get wiring setup.

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    I designed the first Super Chiller in 09 on my M112 GTO. We have been working on it since then. Getting the first cars to volunteer was a big delay then getting CNC parts made. The Camaro kit started selling 1.5ys ago with great success. Think how well your car runs when it’s cold out. Super chiller takes about 50deg off water temp that is usually around 30deg off IATs. This will eliminate heat soak, on back to back Dyno pulls on a 600hp Camaro 30hp was lost from first pull to 3rd pull. With the Super Chiller on there was 0 loss 1st pull to 3rd pull. My GTO gave same results. Many improvements over the past 3yrs one of the best is 100% O-Ring connections on Freon side with custom fittings you see in above picture. Custom AN fittings into Chiller are O-Ring sealed not pipe thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekGTO View Post
    Jessica
    Didn’t know about a delay I ran into Sunday, the G8 has no compressor clutch, we use the clutch relay to trigger the relay on our system. I will have to find another source for AC on/off.

    The newest C6 I have done an install on was 2011 and 2013 for Camaro; they both had a compressor clutch and relay. The 09 G8 had a plastic compressor pulley with no clutch or relay. G8 compressor has wires coming out of housing that are computer controlled. I need a 12V signal that turns on/off with AC. You can look and see if the pulley is plastic and no clutch, if other models have a clutch we can use existing wiring on them.

    The first G8 kit is going to AU probably without the wiring, I will send wiring once I have a solution. I just found out Sunday about the no clutch setup so it will take a couple weeks to get wiring setup.
    So the street version will work just fine without the extra wiring?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hartigan85 View Post
    So the street version will work just fine without the extra wiring?
    Good question, and I'd like to piggy-back on it. What happens with the street version of the chiller when you turn the a/c off (as in the winter)? Does the chiller keep chilling and only the cabin air doesn't, or does turning the a/c off kill everything? Whatever the answer is, would it change once you get the extra wiring sorted out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrekGTO View Post
    Jessica
    Didn’t know about a delay I ran into Sunday, the G8 has no compressor clutch, we use the clutch relay to trigger the relay on our system. I will have to find another source for AC on/off.

    The newest C6 I have done an install on was 2011 and 2013 for Camaro; they both had a compressor clutch and relay. The 09 G8 had a plastic compressor pulley with no clutch or relay. G8 compressor has wires coming out of housing that are computer controlled. I need a 12V signal that turns on/off with AC. You can look and see if the pulley is plastic and no clutch, if other models have a clutch we can use existing wiring on them.

    The first G8 kit is going to AU probably without the wiring, I will send wiring once I have a solution. I just found out Sunday about the no clutch setup so it will take a couple weeks to get wiring setup.
    Well, when you go WOT on the G8 it shuts off AC if you had it on. Not quite sure what this would mean to you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slizzo View Post
    Well, when you go WOT on the G8 it shuts off AC if you had it on. Not quite sure what this would mean to you..
    It's fine...figure how long would one be wot for... 10 seconds?
    Or are we talking mile runs? How long it's one of those?

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    Here is a Quote from the first G8 finished Sunday returning to TX.
    Quote Originally Posted by bcad3 View Post
    Car ran flawlessly going home. Averaged 20.1 going to Florida at an average speed of about 74mph., NO A/C! Almost the same going back at 19.9 but running faster and with A/C part of this time.
    Outside air temp was usually around 75 and Chiller coolant ran about 9 degrees warmer. THIS WAS WITHOUT A/C ON! When I turned the defroster on, (Compressor comes on with this) Chiller temp went down about 30 degrees in less than a minute.
    Please keep in mind that this is only a partially functioning system and that the heat exchanger incorporated with the Maggie install was not being isolated yet.
    I know when these are finished and separated completely, I'll be seeing high 20's for my chilled water supply. I know because I have seen this on the unit I helped install in Texas. I also saw the quickest 65-145mph pull I've EVER seen in this car on the way home!!
    Sorry for the long post but the info is "IT DEFINITELY WORKS!!"
    Thank You Dave!

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    Here is a shot of the first SS I did 1.5yr ago, still going strong!



    As well as a Video of same car



    Quote Originally Posted by GizmoQ View Post
    My XLR V is still going strong with 2 Land Speed Records to my credit. I just found out last month that my "magic number" was 122* IAT2 and the chiller keeps it under 120* for my full LSR run. So that 5* of timing I was losing above 122* went away!

    Thanks Dave, OBTW, the Team Elwood logo has changed again:
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    Quote Originally Posted by SecretWeapon
    I saw the XLR V at the Texas Mile a few weeks ago and when he was done with his run the blower lid was so cold it had condensation on it. He was running the kit made by TREKGTO.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrekGTO
    These are XLR V, C6 and ZR1 connections,



    Below picture of return line on Camaro.



    Typical Super Chiller for Camaro



    Below kit for Camaro for example.

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    Is there a list of shops that can install this in SoCal?

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